Marlin Camp 9


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Waldo Pepper
May 22, 2009, 01:05 PM
I was looking at a Camp 9 yesterday in little pawn & gun shop in a town of about 2000 that I happened to be in and it was in fairly nice shape w/o a butt plate and instead a recoil pad installed. The price tag was $325 or $350 I can't remember which, but I was thinking about going back to buy the thing for a HD rifle. But not sure the thing is worth the money. What say you guys?

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ArfinGreebly
May 22, 2009, 01:55 PM
I have a Camp 9. I paid about $350 for it about three years ago. It is, hands down, the sweetest 50-yard gun I own.

Now, mine may a little different, as mine has a Williams peep sight. I have never once had to adjust the sights. Juice bottle caps at 50 yards. Really can't complain.

Recoil is insignificant -- might as well be a .22 -- and it fits me well. It's one of my daughter's favorite rifles; hits pretty much anyting she points at with it.

So, at under $400 for a Camp 9? Absolutely. I would jump on that. And I'd buy it in a heartbeat myself if I had any spare cash.

wrs840
May 22, 2009, 02:10 PM
WP:

Camp nines are wonderful guns and a lot of fun, (and I could argue would be an HD gun you could get Grandma comfortable with) but they have a rectifiable design flaw that you should be aware of:

(1) The factory recoil buffer tended to disintegrate very quickly. Look for what looks like beeswax chunks inside the action.

(2) The factory recoil spring was too soft (12#).

These two problems caused broken hammer-strut bridges to be very common in Marlin Camps, and occasionally culminated in a cracked stock if left unchecked. The stock fastens to the action with two screws. If the seller will allow removing it, the hammer strut bridge, if broken, will likely fall out in your hand when the stock comes off.

I got a fixer-upper Camp 9 a couple months ago. I replaced the disintigrated recoil buffer, the broken hammer-strut bridge, and bent hammer strut with parts from Numrich, and put in a in a stiffer (16.5#) recoil spring from Wolff.


My repairs (learned largely from advice of some folks here at THR) worked great and it was a hoot to shoot until I managed to bend the bolt-stop spring reassembling the action a few weeks ago. I bought three replacement springs (they're cheap) from Midway, but haven't replaced it yet, because it's a "captive" spring and I haven't found the courage to just grab it with pliers and yank it out yet (it still works, but unreliably) and the replacement springs seem ever-so-slightly larger in diameter than the one I'm contemplating yanking out... Sooo, I don't know what I'm doing so maybe I better not push it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Mine seems to be a early model with the single-plate bolt stop.

The shop I bought this from had it tagged at about $329 IIRC, until I pointed out the problems it had. That's how I got it for $200.

Have fun, good luck!
Les

Eyesac
May 22, 2009, 02:10 PM
I've wanted one for a long time, that sounds like a good enough price. I remember hearing that people were gounging pretty hard on those.

geologist
May 22, 2009, 02:15 PM
They are rare and quite spendy here in Canada.

I want one.

blkbrd666
May 22, 2009, 02:20 PM
What part of Egypt is Bum F*** in, I'll beat you to it! :)

Waldo Pepper
May 22, 2009, 02:21 PM
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Posts: 91 They are rare and quite spendy here in Canada.

I want one. Man I though all you Crown Colony Countries gave up your guns and were no longer able to own guns. :neener::D

FFMedic
May 22, 2009, 03:53 PM
Are these guns really that rare? I have a Camp 45 I wouldn't really mind parting with for the right price.

FFMedic

Waldo Pepper
May 22, 2009, 04:37 PM
It's apears that it's not rare, but that those that bought them as a general rule never parted with them or if they did the second owner did not sell.

I am not sure of the number of years the gun was made, but 3 is what I seem to remember, and 2,000 to 10,000 is probably the number made.

The thing I remember when they came out was every one said Camp Gun in 9mm or 45 ACP???? I seem to remember that they sold mainly to people that owned 9mm hand guns, and lot of cops bought them as a patrol gun. But they did not sell well and Marlin dumped them, some say before the gun had time to prove itself.

In the day I remember that I thought they mad a poor duty gun, but an excellent HD gun in the 45ACP version.

geologist
May 22, 2009, 05:26 PM
Man I though all you Crown Colony Countries gave up your guns and were no longer able to own guns.

Most of our gun laws truly suck the bag compared with yours but there are a lot of gunowners up here and we are fighting the good fight to keep our remaining rights.

Our shotgun laws are better though. Here are a couple of my HD shotguns. No special licences required and I can even hunt with them in season.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i155/pbgeologist/IMG_5500e.jpg

Flash!
May 22, 2009, 07:55 PM
where is this Camp 9? If you don't hurry, I 'll buy it first!

Waldo Pepper
May 23, 2009, 10:03 AM
In SE Missouri hop in your PU Truck and come on. :neener:

jjohnson
May 23, 2009, 10:17 AM
Both carbines are lots of fun. I bought a Camp 9 new some years ago - when they were still making them, and a Camp 45 a couple years ago in almost new condition.

They're both worth the better part of $500 if you can find one around here.

The recoil buffer will, as pointed out, disintegrate, but you can get one that will last from one of a couple makers of aftermarket buffers - I don't recall the name but you can google "camp9 buffer" or something.

The recoil spring is also, as pointed out, too weak, and if left there, will beat that original buffer to death - get the 23 pound spring from Wolff for either model.

I think these carbines are very like a "big boy's 10/22." They're very handy, reasonably accurate, and fun. I have a 2x red dot sight on mine, which makes for a very good 50-yard varmint gun. Even with a 23 pound spring, they will cycle light loads - this proves to me that the factory spring was WAY too light. It's a great "truck carbine," and is simply limited to what you can expect from a 9mm or 45 slug. Remember that nobody laughs at an Uzi or a Thompson submachinegun. The camp 9 mag is the same as a S&W M59 mag, the 45 uses a M1911 mag, so you can go "extended capacity" in either without breaking your budget.

Good luck finding 'em, boys - they're worth having. I'm not entirely sure I'd want one as a duty gun - only because I have to wonder if it really needs a recoil buffer and spring right "out of the 'chute," what else? I'd rather have something that was "battlefield tested" for that purpose.

mgkdrgn
May 23, 2009, 10:34 AM
I was looking at a Camp 9 ... The price tag was $325 or $350 I can't remember which

Keep in mind that you can get a brand new HiPoint in 9mm for about $225 or so new, with a lifetime warranty. Not as pretty as the Camp 9, but $100 will still buy a fair bit of ammo. :)

Waldo Pepper
May 23, 2009, 10:36 AM
I have been thinking about buying it for a trunk gun in my car and have a red dot sight to mount on the gun.

May end up getting rid of my FNH 5N7 (5.7x28) and AR-57(5.7x28) since carry my CCW KT PF9 on me most of the time. It would be a good combo, the 5.7 is a great gun but the damn thing is an ear killer in the short barreled FNH pistol and after I fired it indoors and suffered permanant ear damage. It damn well hurt the second I fired the gun on an indoor range and I could not fire the gun again afer that without jerking from the fear of the injured ear. It is now in the box in the back of the safe waiting for a good trade or sale along with several thousand rounds of ammo.

theotherwaldo
May 23, 2009, 12:20 PM
I'd been looking for a Camp 9 or other pistol-caliber carbine for a year or so. I gave up on Thursday and bought a Hi-Point 995.

This is only the third new-in-box firearm that I've bought.

I think I got a good one. I'll try it out on Memorial Day.

welldoya
May 23, 2009, 03:48 PM
I bought a Camp 9 at an estate auction 2 years ago for $180. The buffer was toast so I replaced it with a Blackjack buffer. Also replaced the 11 lb factory spring with a 16# from Woolf. From what I've read it's best to put the 16# on the 9mm and the 21# on the .45.
If you don't buy it, PM me the location. I've got a friend in the SE Mo. area who is looking for one. Thanks.

Waldo Pepper
May 23, 2009, 04:24 PM
No problem I will do that for you. I did not look it over close enough to say the quality of the gun. But that said I think I would have remembered if it was ragged or had serious problem and I do not.

MikeS.
June 11, 2009, 01:26 PM
I have 3 Camp 9s and 1 .45. Love them. I did trash a 9 stock when the buffer failed :( a couple months ago.

I've modified my XD 9 mags to work in the C9s. So now I have a carbine and a pistol that shares 16 rnd mags.

Waldo Pepper
June 11, 2009, 01:44 PM
Ooops!!! I forgot to come back and post my findings. It was gone when I went back. :(

rondog
June 11, 2009, 01:50 PM
I'd love to find either a 9 or .45 that was affordable. I have one each of the High Point carbines, and they rock! Waaay too much fun.

I remember seeing a website a few years ago that offered suppressed Camp 9's and Camp .45's, but that's long gone. Now THAT would be a fun toy to have! A DeLisle is still at the top of my wish list though.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/campcarbinesuppressed.jpg

Col. Plink
June 11, 2009, 02:55 PM
Rondog, you found a HiPoint .45 carbine? I thought they were mythical! (Perhaos you meant a 9mm and a .40S&W?).


FFMedic, what's your Marlin Camp 45 worth to you?

Also, how do Mech Tech CCU's compare to marlin camp gunsfor accuracy? They have a .45 CCU for Springfield XD's coming out soon (within six months to hear them tell it) so I may wait but a HiPoint 45carbine would be a better buy for me 9should they actually exist).

rondog
June 11, 2009, 03:05 PM
Rondog, you found a HiPoint .45 carbine? I thought they were mythical! (Perhaos you meant a 9mm and a .40S&W?).

You misread my post young feller. I have both HP carbines, which are 9mm and .40s&w. I'd love to find either a Camp 9 or Camp .45, which is what I was trying to say.

$300-$350 in a local FTF sale, I'd be on it like a horny chimp.

BTW, the HP 4595 carbine DOES exist, they're just made of unobtanium.

Marlin 45 carbine
June 11, 2009, 04:19 PM
BlacJack buffers makes a recoil buffer for the Camps that is superior to the factory buffer. the heavy recoil spring from Wolf is a must with +P ammo.
the .45 is a very accurate little carbine with good handloads and a Williams peep and gold bead front I can shoot 1" groups off a rest at 25 yards easy. a better man on the trigger could likely do that at 50 - it is that good.
I keep mine handy for HD use if I have to go outside. it's a rural area here.
I have the Camp 9 also it is more tempermental about ammo selection for good accuracy.

Crazy8
July 19, 2009, 10:13 AM
MikeS,
Can you elaborate on that mod? Pics?

Avenger29
July 19, 2009, 10:20 AM
I remember seeing a website a few years ago that offered suppressed Camp 9's and Camp .45's, but that's long gone. Now THAT would be a fun toy to have! A DeLisle is still at the top of my wish list though.

You can find a few of those occasionally. I'd rather have something else, though.

The Carbines are undersprung from the factory. I installed heavier Wolff springs and a Blackjack buffer in mine for insurance. They come apart kind of like a big 10/22, so it's not a nightmare to do this very basic maintenance on them.

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