Lee or Possum Hollow for 223 REM


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lgbloader
May 23, 2009, 11:28 AM
I have another batch of 1000 pcs of 223 Rem to process and normally use a LEE trim system and cordless drill for this trimming job after FL sizing. It would take me 17 years to use my Redding 2400.

Here is my question:

I am thinking of getting the Possum trimmer but thought I would ask the forum if:

1. Does this trmmer work without damaging the shoulder

2. Is it faster than the Lee.

3. Is it consistant.

4. Is it a good buy.

5. What do I need for a cordless drill

6. Will I need to champfer / deburr after trimming


Thanks and cheers.

LGB

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Walkalong
May 23, 2009, 11:37 AM
I have a Possum Hollow trimmer for .223. It is no good for hand use. I chuck it up in my hobby lathe. It needs to be driven with something at any rate. It is very fast. I think they make an adapter to turn it with as drill or drill press.

It works very well. I am very happy with it. Case lengths are very consistent. You do have to deburr and chamfer afterwards.

I am sure the Giraud and Gracey trimmers are much nicer, but the Possum Hollow works great and is relatively cheap.

I bought the PH because I was too cheap to buy a Giraud, and can't really justify the expense for my volume, or lack thereof.

lgbloader
May 23, 2009, 11:52 AM
I bought the PH because I was too cheap to buy a Giraud,

Morning Walkalong.

That's my angle on it as well, although I did look really hard at it.

But I only need something quick for 223. I don't really make blasting ammo for my m14's or my Garands or any other caliber for rifle for that matter. My Redding trimmer works just fine on those.

It's just this bloody 223. :banghead: I have said it before, processing my 223 REM brass batches is the least favorite think I do as far as Handloading goes. But I love to shoot it so that's my personal purgatory.

LGB

loadedround
May 23, 2009, 12:25 PM
Just for the record, you must chamfer and deburr after using any trimmer, be it hand or power operated. :)

lgbloader
May 23, 2009, 12:57 PM
Just for the record, you must chamfer and deburr after using any trimmer, be it hand or power operated.

Thank you for trying to teach me something new but I was asking about the Possum Hollow. I know the process.

However, It is my understanding that the giraud and dillon do the champfer / deburr for you?? Correct me if I'm wrong, somebody.

I know that with manual trimmers (or with power adapters like the RCBS) , you must champfer and deburr. Been doing that for a long time.;)



LGB

Walkalong
May 23, 2009, 02:38 PM
I know the Giraud deburrs and chamfers as well as trims. I don't know about the Gracey etc.

Trimming 500 to 1000 .223 by hand is a PIA. That is why I bought the Possum Hollow. Trimming is a breeze now, even though I still have to deburr and chamfer.

Eb1
May 23, 2009, 02:45 PM
Possum Hollow is cool. Sometimes it leaves some markings on my shoulders. Maybe I should polish it a little.

The Lee is just as accurate with its cuts, but is about 3 times slower than the PH.

lgbloader
May 23, 2009, 02:55 PM
Thanks for the replies. I think I'll be making another purchase. So I need the trimmer and the adapter right?

LGB

kelbro
May 23, 2009, 03:31 PM
Yes. Get the adapter. I chuck mine up in the drill press set on the lowest RPM and fire it up. Just stab the case up in the tool for a second and you are done. Trim 1K. Drop the tool out of the adapter and then insert your chamfer tool to do the insides. Same deal. Just touch the case to the chamfer tool. When the insides are done, flip the chamfer tool and do the outsides. Granted, it's not a Giraud or Gracey but it is much less unpleasant than many of the alternatives.

Quickdraw McGraw
May 23, 2009, 03:56 PM
Yeah get the adapter. I don't have a drill press so I just use my cordless. I take it outside and sit in a lawn chair. I bought a cheap pair of rubber coated gloves to help hold the brass. hand get kinda sore after a hundred or so. But I like the PH trimmer! :D

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee267/Metzy84/Reloading/102_1698.jpg

mongoose33
May 24, 2009, 12:10 AM
Get the adapter.

I bought the Lee originally, but had trouble getting the cases to stay tight in the holder.

Went to the PH trimmer, and it's a godsend compared to the Lee. I clamp a drill to my workbench w/ the PH trimmer in the chuck, and go to town.

If I were made of money I would have bought one of the very pricey trimmers, but the PH is a darned nice alternative.

Walkalong
May 24, 2009, 09:07 AM
I chuck mine up in the drill press set on the lowest RPM and fire it upI have found the higher RPM to cut smoother and cleaner. (And of course, faster)

Quickdraw McGraw
May 24, 2009, 09:31 AM
I have found the higher RPM to cut smoother and cleaner. (And of course, faster)

I find this also! :D

tommysempra
May 24, 2009, 10:53 AM
I have a hard time justifying 390 for the Giraud as well, but with the prospect of buy an AR in 308.....:eek:

Roccobro
May 24, 2009, 11:36 PM
Love my PH trimmer. Get the drill adapter.

And if you don't like it, you will be able to re-coup your funds easily. It is a quality tool.

Justin

lgbloader
May 25, 2009, 02:12 AM
Thanks guys :)

LGB

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