SIG Manufacture and Marketing Questions


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BigG
December 26, 2002, 10:55 AM
Where are current SIG Sauers made/marketed from? I have a P226 That has Made in West Germany on it and some US city (can't remember) in Virginia. How old would that one be?

What are the current SIGs marked? Are they still called SIG/Sauer or is it SIGArms, or what? Are they still manufactured in Germany or now in USA?

Thanks in advance!

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Tamara
December 26, 2002, 10:59 AM
AFAIK, all milled stainless slides sold in the US are made in the US (slides for 229, 226 Stainless, etc.).

The complete P-239 and P-245, frame and all, are US-made, as well.

BigG
December 26, 2002, 11:18 AM
:eek: Vere is the Cherman qvality, may I ask?

Tamara
December 26, 2002, 11:24 AM
The same place it is in my German roadster, which was built in South Cackalacky by Bubba Makes Wheels. ;)

Seriously, I think the new US-built ones are every bit as well made as my old P-228 which is covered in Kraut proofmarks.

Orion
December 26, 2002, 11:55 AM
THe quality control, the engineering and the desing and layout of the manafcturing are all of german origin.

I like my newer milled slide P226 as much as I do my older beat to hell and back, scares all the other guns with it's mangy, fleabitten, rabid, half dead appearance police trade in P226.

Of course the P225 and the HK P7M13 refuse to talk to the...other chidren.:rolleyes: Euro snobbs I guess.

Col. Mustard
December 26, 2002, 12:05 PM
What are the current SIGs marked? Are they still called SIG/Sauer or is it SIGArms, or what? Are they still manufactured in Germany or now in USA?

SiG-Sauer firearms are mostly imported/marketed by SIGARMS of Exeter, NH. They manufacture a few guns (P229s?) in the USA. My relatively new P232 is manufactured in Germany, but also has the SIGARMS/Exeter, NH markings.

I suspect you could get the official answers to these questions, and most others, from www.sigarms.com. For example:

The American market was a vital part of SIG's business plan to continue to expand its market share and become an international leader in the small arms industry. January of 1985 marked the birth date of SIGARMS, Inc. SIGARMS, then located in Tyson's Corner, Virginia, imported the P220 and the P230. Two years later, SIGARMS moved to a larger location in Herndon, Virginia, and introduced the P225 in 9mm followed by the P226 and P228 in 9mm. By 1990, SIGARMS was looking to increase market share and begin manufacturing. SIGARMS moved to its present location in Exeter, New Hampshire, and in 1992, began production of the P229 in .40 S&W.

agony
December 26, 2002, 03:03 PM
Current SIGs classic series are for the most part, assembled here in the USA. However, some frames are made here (P228/229), while most are still made by Sauer in Germany. Stainless frames are made in Germany still. Stainless slides are made here. Stamped slides are still made in Germany. I believe the sigpro frames are still made in Switzerland.

The Virginia import marks were Tyson's Corner, and Herndon, prior to the move to New Hampshire.

Quality-wise, the US made SIGs are as good as the German SIGs. The most blatant example of mismatched pistols are the P228s. most of the current NIB 228s are US made frames with german stamped slides, but no proofmarks on the slide.

Confused? Me too!

BigG
December 26, 2002, 03:11 PM
Wow, they sure moved around a lot in a few short years. Makes sense, yuppie gun, frequent moves.

:D

Ala Dan
January 8, 2003, 07:39 AM
Both, my SIG P220 and P228 were West German
manufactuered and assembled; and both have
the German proofhouse marking's on them. The
P228 is of 1990 vintage; while the born on date
of the P220 is 1995.

My P220 has been approved for use with +P type
load's, as it has the "green colored" recoil spring
assembly. However, I have (and never will) shoot
+P ammo in this firearm.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

trapshooter
January 8, 2003, 12:55 PM
The complete P-239 and P-245, frame and all, are US-made, as well.

On the P-245, some (maybe early production?) frames were made in Germany. Mine was (you made me look). Does not have the German proof marks, so I believe the slide is US. That jibes with everything I've found at Sig and at the Sig forum.

4v50 Gary
January 8, 2003, 07:18 PM
Pssst!

Those milled slides begin their life as castings by a major American foundry. After their checked for straightness, they're shipped to Sig for milling. I'll let you guys guess who does the casting.

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