Maryland Concealed Carry?


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slh02
January 17, 2003, 11:01 PM
Hello, wondering if anyone knows the latest on the Maryland CCW situation. I know it is just wishful thinking, but hopefully now that we have Ehrlich in office something will happen. If anyone can give me the details, I would be very appreciative.

Thanks in advance,
Shane

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Capital Punishment
January 17, 2003, 11:05 PM
You have to keep in mind, Ehrlich is about all we have. The rest of our congressman are primarily democratic and anti-gun. Although, i do know Kharn is hard at work on Concealed carry reform in Maryland. :)

slh02
January 17, 2003, 11:33 PM
So we are actually going to have a bill introduced to Ehrlich? That is great news! I know its a long shot, but maybe all Ehrlich needs is the opportunity to sign the bill. Please keep us updated Kharn...

Capital Punishment
January 18, 2003, 09:14 AM
Someday we will introduce a bill, its just a matter of time. We have to change the minds of the bliss-ninnies here first! :)

Bulldozer
January 18, 2003, 10:19 AM
I would absolutely love having CCW passed in Maryland. However, bear in mind that faithful delegates from the outlying counties have introduced such bills every year for the past several years and they all meet a consistent fate -- death in Committee.

This state is chocked full of leftist bliss-ninnies who would rather call 9-1-1 on thier top of the line "tactical" cellphones than seek to defend themselves.

Ehrlich may be the first republican governor in Maryland since before I was born, but do recall that the VAST majority of those critters in the Assembly are liberal democrats.

Ehrlich has made statements on talk radio (AM-680, plus appearance on 97.9FM) that he was not particularly supportive of CCW reform in Maryland, although he did support the right of individuals to own guns for home defense.

slh02
January 18, 2003, 01:23 PM
Doesnt seem like it will happen... does it?

Kharn
January 19, 2003, 09:12 AM
Slh02: Hopefully we can pull it off this year, the state police are doing a bunch of shady accounting and also not taking steps to prevent or combat racism, sexism and elitism within the issuing processing.

Check out www.chesapeake.net/~mcfadden/ccw for more info.

Kharn

MikeK
January 19, 2003, 04:16 PM
In spite of Kharn's good work, it will not happen this year, or next year or the year after..........

Carmen Amedori, one of the few pro-gun legislators in MD has introduced the bill in the past. She is not going to this year. Testing the waters for Ehrlich's first year?

As mentioned earlier, the bill(s) always die in committee. Most of the important gun bills end up in the Judicial proceedings committee. Frosh (sp) from Montgomery County, a rabid anti, is chair of the committee. Perhaps another reason Ms. Amedori isn't sponsoring it this year.

VA and PA look better every day.

Calanctus
January 19, 2003, 04:57 PM
I was shocked to see this morning an editorial in FAVOR of CCW in Maryland in The Washington Post, of all places? A well written comparison of MD vs. VA gun laws and crime rates. Perhaps the times are changing in the "Free State"....

Capital Punishment
January 19, 2003, 06:46 PM
No way? I never saw it. Which issue, which day? Id like to read it. Thats pretty shocking.

Newton
January 19, 2003, 07:12 PM
No disrespect, but shall issue CCW in Maryland - not unless the Eastern 50 miles of the state float off into the Atlantic, and sink.

God it would be so sweet if it were to happen though.

Newton

jrhines
January 19, 2003, 08:03 PM
Be aware that while the article in the OUTLOOK section of the Post (Page 8) was very favorable to CCW, it was not an endorsement by the Post staff. It was a letter to the editor or equivalent, not authored by anyone beholding to the Post.
Rather than the Eastern 50 miles of Maryland floating out to sea, how about PG and Montgomery counties along with Baltimore city. These three areas have been almost totaly responsible for the election of the liberal state goverment over the last four decades. Erlich won because he was from a close suberb of Baltimore and looked upon as a "homie", and he was politically astute enough to select a black running mate, not , as CKT did, a defrocked Republican, white, ex-military officer. Erlich is NOT a conservative Republican and we should not expect any significant changes in the states gun laws, lip service only. Think VA/PA!

J.Rhines
Seneca, MD

Kharn
January 20, 2003, 12:13 AM
Newton: The Eastern 50 miles of the state is one of the few areas that can be counted on to be pro-gun. As others have said, its the DC suburbs and Baltimore that drag the rest of the state into the cesspool, if we could only get those DC suburbs to join DC (where they practically belong, when voting patterns and commuting government employees are taken into consideration) we would be much better off.

Calanctus: Would you happen to have a link to the online version of that letter?
Here we go, a quick web-search turned up: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6349-2003Jan17.html
Was that the letter you were referring to?

Kharn
[Another edit to correct the spelling of Baltimore]

gun-fucious
January 20, 2003, 12:43 AM
Brian Frosh is a Marxist:
http://www.brianfrosh.com/

heres the letter:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A6349-2003Jan17?language=printer

Maryland Firing Blanks
Sunday, January 19, 2003; Page B08

Gun-control advocates weren't happy to see Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. win the
Maryland governorship. But are gun-control laws really effective at reducing
violent crime?

Compare Maryland's record with Virginia's. Other than a
one-handgun-per-month purchase law, the two states have little in common on
gun control. Gun-control measures in Maryland include:

• A ban on the cheap handguns known as Saturday night specials (1988).

• A waiting period for the purchase of assault weapons (1989).

• Background checks and waiting periods for purchases at gun shows (1993).

• A ban on certain "assault" pistols (1994).

• A ban on "straw purchases," in which a buyer acquires a gun to give to
someone else (1996).

• A requirement that gunmakers provide a spent shell casing from each
handgun sold in the state to provide law enforcement with ballistic
"fingerprints" (2000).

• A requirement that all newly manufactured handguns sold in the state have
a built-in trigger lock (2003).

So are Marylanders a lot safer than Virginians? Quite the opposite.

FBI data show that in 2000 (the most recent year for which figures are
available), on a per capita basis Maryland ranked third in murders and first
in robberies among the states, while Virginia ranked 15th in murders and
27th in robberies. Maryland had a firearm-related murder rate of 5.9 per
100,000 residents, while Virginia's rate was almost 70 percent lower, at 1.8
incidents per 100,000 residents.

Maryland also doesn't stack up well nationally. Its firearm murder rate in
2000 was nearly double (190 percent) the national rate, while Virginia's
rate was 42 percent below the national rate.

What has Virginia done that has made its residents safer than Marylanders --
other than not passing "progressive" gun laws? In 1995 it enacted a law that
allows law-abiding residents to carry concealed firearms. After an initial
increase in the rate of firearm-related homicides, by 2000 Virginia's
firearm-related homicide rate declined by 22 percent.

It's a pattern borne out nationwide, according to John Lott of the American
Enterprise Institute. His research shows that states that have adopted
concealed-handgun laws have experienced sharp declines in every type of
violent crime: murders, rapes, aggravated assaults, robberies.

No one is claiming that the difference between the crime rates in Maryland
and Virginia can be attributed solely to their differing gun laws, but
clearly these laws -- or the lack thereof -- have played a role and probably
a significant one.

The primary flaw in Maryland's approach is that those determined to harm
innocent people are the ones least likely to obey gun-control laws. Instead,
these measures disarm law-abiding residents, making them more likely to
become victims. Why make it easier on criminals?


-- David Muhlhausen
is a policy analyst specializing in
criminal justice in the Center for Data
Analysis at the Heritage Foundation.

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Calanctus
January 20, 2003, 11:34 AM
Yup, that's the article.

not unless the Eastern 50 miles of the state float off into the Atlantic, and sink.

As others said, the Eastern Shore isn't the problem. Besides, why lose all that nice hunting area?

I think the jury is still out as to how much Ehrlich will help us, but I'm sure we're better off than with KKT actively trying to hurt us.

slh02
January 20, 2003, 03:23 PM
I feel the exact same way... I didnt really expect too much to change RKBA-wise with Ehrlich in office, but its definitely better than KKT who pretty much promised to make life for firearms enthusiasts a living hell if elected.

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