Hey folks,
Longtime reader, first time poster--
A long time ago I saw somewhere on the web, some folks were making little plastic plug things that go behind the trigger of your concealed carry piece.
When you draw, you just pop the little plug out.
Anybody know what I'm talking about or where one can be found?
Thanks for your time.
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psyopspec
May 28, 2009, 01:29 PM
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/stb.html
The Saf-T-Blok is (was?) marketed exclusively toward Glock pistols, from what I remember. No experience with one, but there's an article above, and now that you've got the name you can google that.
And welcome to THR!
bja5006
May 28, 2009, 02:47 PM
or something like this may be useful...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mww-DQBbtfc
rcmodel
May 28, 2009, 02:51 PM
Or get a properly designed holster that covers the trigger and fogedaboutit!
rc
Vern Humphrey
May 28, 2009, 03:09 PM
Or get a properly designed holster that covers the trigger and fogedaboutit!
The problem with the Glock is that in hastily holstering, some people wearing loose clothing have got some cloth inside the trigger guard and the pistol fired as they shoved the pistol into the holster.
A plug would have prevented that -- but would they have used it when holstering in haste, or when preoccupied with something else?
mrokern
May 28, 2009, 04:26 PM
Easy way to prevent that...don't reholster in a hurry!
rcmodel
May 28, 2009, 04:36 PM
The problem with the GlockThat's why I put a Cominolli thumb safety kit on mine.
http://www.cominolli.com/intropage.html
Had the Siderlock safety been available then, I would have used that instead of notching the frame.
http://www.siderlock.com/
rc
Hungry Seagull
May 28, 2009, 04:36 PM
mmm. mmm. mmm. Always something for sale to help us hurry things along.
ar10
May 28, 2009, 04:44 PM
Cheapest way is to not put finger on trigger while drawing or holstering.
Dan Crocker
May 28, 2009, 04:45 PM
Yeah really. If you don't like/aren't comfortable with a Glock, there are plenty of other great designs to choose from.
Vern Humphrey
May 28, 2009, 04:51 PM
Easy way to prevent that...don't reholster in a hurry!
Easier said than done. In a high-pressure situation, a cop holsters while keeping his attention wholly focussed on the perp he's about to handcuff.
tank mechanic
May 28, 2009, 06:38 PM
Quote:
Easy way to prevent that...don't reholster in a hurry!
Easier said than done. In a high-pressure situation, a cop holsters while keeping his attention wholly focussed on the perp he's about to handcuff.
Having the little tripper plug would not help in this situation.
Clint Smith has a saying, "Draw fast, holster slow".
Neglecting to pay attention is not excuseable when you are in a hurry. Especially when making a mistake in this instance means firing a round into the ground or into your rear end.
uudfourty
May 28, 2009, 06:47 PM
Okay, let me clarify here.
This would go on a Kahr P9 which is almost always in a Desantis Nemesis in a cargo pocket.
But not all cargo pockets are created equally, and sometimes the piece fits, feels, and draws better without the hoslter (weird, I know)
So I was looking for something like this for the rare occasions when not holstered.
I'm not worried about AD when re-holstering, I just don't want something else pulling the trigger for me.
Carrying with an empty chamber, while an option, is not my preference.
The left side of the trigger lock that came with the gun fits pretty snugly, and requires positive force to knock it out. While this is an option, it wasn't specifically designed for this function. I'm looking for something that is.
I'll probably just end up going IWB, or maybe smart-carry, when not carrying in-pocket.
But... even with the smart carry.... I'd like something else in there.
Vern Humphrey
May 28, 2009, 06:47 PM
I agree. But having said that, there have been NDs when officers re-holstered Glocks while not paying full attention to the process.
tank mechanic
May 28, 2009, 09:05 PM
Hey Vern,
I am not pretending to be a super tactical operator that can weather through any situation, I just don't see a need for the plug.
-tankmechanic
Vern Humphrey
May 28, 2009, 09:16 PM
Nor am I -- I merely point out that there have been NDs with Glocks related to hasty or distracted behavior when holstering.
krs
May 28, 2009, 09:35 PM
I have one of those Siderlocks on one of my Glocks, a 19. I bought it at a gunshow when I saw a demo and it seemed like a useful little safegaurd that could be used or not used.
Now I sorta wish it wasn't there and keep threatening to buy a new trigger and get rid of the little button. I just don't like having that extra step to check and it doesn't work as naturally as advertized. You have to consciously push the thing before you can treat the trigger as a normal Glock, and I just don't seem to get used to doing it. It works just fine but it's not something that my trigger finger does well - like going in reverse or something, backwards. Hard to describe.
REAPER4206969
May 28, 2009, 11:18 PM
This thread makes the baby Gaston cry.:(
Vonderek
May 28, 2009, 11:45 PM
So I was looking for something like this for the rare occasions when not holstered.
Two questions:
1) How easy would it be for the plug to work its way out of the trigger guard while the gun is flopping around in your pocket all day long?
2) If the plug is to be used on rare occasions it seems like an extra thing to have to think about if you need the gun in a hurry while your brain is in gross motor skill mode. I would think you would want to carry as you train.
Deltaboy
May 28, 2009, 11:57 PM
Just say NO TO PLUGS! If you can't handle a gun with no safety other than the one on top of your shoulders then get something else and carry it.
uudfourty
May 29, 2009, 04:52 PM
1) How easy would it be for the plug to work its way out of the trigger guard while the gun is flopping around in your pocket all day long?
That's what I'm trying to find out.
It seems like nobody messes with them, so apparently it's not the way to roll.
I'll just fuggedaboutdit.
Eightball
May 29, 2009, 07:43 PM
Count me in the "just take your time holstering it" crowd.
Plus, if you carry a firearm that isn't the latest "no-safety" plastic-fantastic--i.e. one with a manual safety, or something with a legitimate double-action trigger like a Sig or revolver, as well as take your time where you should, I don't see how the "ND while holstering" thing should come up?
Hungry Seagull
May 30, 2009, 04:47 AM
I use a little blackhawk or unclemike's holsters that pretty much makes sure that nothing is going to hit that trigger coming or going. The Blackhawk has a side flap that you shove with finger when you draw. It comes out fast.
The smart carry is definately one which you want to TAKE YOUR TIME holstering. Your Jewels depend on it.
Easy draw fast as you can while taking your time. (Does that make sense?)
Everything else can be done tomorrow when it's all over.
The Lone Haranguer
May 30, 2009, 08:54 PM
This would go on a Kahr P9
With the long trigger pull (6-7 lbs. through an over half inch stroke) of a Kahr, I see little need or utility for such a device. Nor have I ever seen one for a Kahr, although I've seen such a device for Glocks, called a Saf-T-Blok. This may have some merit if the gun is to be carried outside of a holster, e.g., loosely in a vehicle storage bin. But, again, the Glock has a much shorter trigger stroke than a Kahr.
If you're handy at that sort of thing, you could make one, from wood, plastic or even metal, whittled and filed to shape. Fit it snugly enough that it will not fall out with normal motion or light jostling, but loosely enough that you can still pop it out with your finger.
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