Some real old ammo .......


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P95Carry
October 17, 2003, 08:51 PM
Having a sort-out of stuff and forgot I had these old boxes tucked away ..... in case on interest to any of you ''older'' shootin dudes :p .... here's a pic.

I have tried not to over compress the image but having reduced it a lot I have still had to keep file size reasonable for download. I can supply better res pics of any specifics if required.

From the top left ......

Kynoch (early name for stuff from ICI ... Eley etc in UK) .. .32 acp with what look like steel fmj's.

Then three boxes of old ICI stuff, the first being less old and rounds quite clean ...... will probably fire. Other two are very old and rounds look very corroded .... one box of these I messed with a long ways back was almost all FTF's.

Next is the two small boxes on left ..... the yellow one is an old ICI packaging for some 22 shorts .. empty box unfortunately.

Under that is the ''Kleanbore'' 22 shorts (again an empty) ..... made by Remington Arms co.

Working across L to R again, next is the square box for 22 shorts, also regretably empty. I noticed it said ''29 grn bullet'' . that's OK but . charge weight is shown as 4 grains!!! Sounds a lot in a short!?? That was produced by Union Metallic Cartridge out of Bridgeport CT.

Next along is a box of 100 LR's ..... made in Canada by Canadian Industries Ltd. They are partially corroded and I doubt would work much.

And finally, the white box lower right ...... these rounds are reasonably clean and could well work. Made by Kynoch again (ICI) in UK.

http://www.bedford.net/design/cb_gun2/old_ammo_01_s.jpg

Just a bit of history for y'all.:)

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Mike Irwin
October 18, 2003, 12:47 AM
"charge weight is shown as 4 grains!!! Sounds a lot in a short!?? That was produced by Union Metallic Cartridge out of Bridgeport CT."

That was a charge of 4F black powder. Not much at all. That's also, by far, the oldest box in the bunch. Probably right around 1890-1900.

Top row, third box, says "Non Rusting" was primed with non-potassium chlorate primers.

P95Carry
October 18, 2003, 09:58 AM
Thx Mike ... of course. BP!

Mind you, even so still seems quite a lot to pack into that small case!:)

C.R.Sam
October 18, 2003, 12:49 PM
4F...granulation, not weight ?
4F being very fine and very fast burning.

Sam

Mike Irwin
October 18, 2003, 08:41 PM
I've got some old .22 Shorts that should have black powder in them. If I have enough of them, maybe I'll pull one apart and see how much powder there is in it.


Hum... Even better than destroying part of my collection...

Cartridges of the World, 7th edition...

"Initial loading was a 29-grain bullet and 4 grains of fine blackpowder."

I love being right. :D

P95Carry
October 18, 2003, 08:53 PM
I love being right. haha! Kudos dude ... kudos!!:)

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