Sniper Movie...bring it on
Norton
October 17, 2003, 09:24 PM
Well, here we go.....the DC sniper movie is on right now. So far I've found at least one accuracy.....the box truck theory was slipped into the movie about as randomly as it was in the real investigation.
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greyhound
October 17, 2003, 09:36 PM
I'm taping the dang thing.
Kinda realted, even the GF (who commutes from Baltimore to DC area every day and therefore was in tears a year ago when she had to make the drive):
"Hey isn't Charles Dutton much too heavy to be playing Chief Moose?"
I am no fan of the man but I had to ask myself the same question.....
Norton
October 17, 2003, 09:53 PM
It will, I'm sure, be a more personal thing for all of us in the DC area. The scene about the middle school shooting was more troubling than I expected. That MS is one of our feeder schools and I drive by it everyday.
The passing comment regarding firearms in England was more level headed than I expected as it stated something to the effect that though firearms were basically banned in Great Britain gun crimes were on the rise.
Bill Hook
October 17, 2003, 10:28 PM
"Hey isn't Charles Dutton much too heavy to be playing Chief Moose?"
Too smart too.
gun-fucious
October 17, 2003, 11:14 PM
dutton's girth has got to really really annoy ole moosie
MagKnightX
October 17, 2003, 11:42 PM
I tried watching it, I really did. But I just couldn't. It was actually too boring. I quit forty minutes in.
edit: You know, it was pretty rainy in that movie, and as I recall, it was actually kind of sunny during that period of time. I could be mistaken. Oh well.
rayra
October 18, 2003, 12:53 AM
Maybe I'll watch a rerun of it, if it doesn't get villified too heavily. Something bothersome about a TV Movie on the subject, when they are still unconvicted.
That, and a convicted murderer playing a police chief is too ironic for me as well.
Drjones
October 18, 2003, 02:49 AM
I just got my wisdom teeth yanked today and am in enough pain without watching this drivel.
I'm sure that:
a) They are most definitely NOT going to depict chief moose as the racist ^%$&^% he is, who probably contributed to the deaths of many of the victims by ordering his men to NOT suspect colored people, even though pretty much all initial eyewitnesses reported two black/colored men.
b) They are going to portray the AR series of rifles as evil, mind-controlling, fully automatic "bullet hoses" that are designed to kill babies, puppies, and baby seals.
:barf:
lawcox
October 18, 2003, 07:43 AM
I think that Rayra is dead on the money about this being a pre conviction movie. Moose's (I think that would be the correct possessive form) book being released already is totally unethical. Movies, books, endless documentaries and specials are bound to be done about the shootings, but I would think that to produce a work prior to the trial and disposition of Muhammed and Malvo really leaves out the complete story.
It is a great thing that Muhammed and Malvo were taken off the streets, but until there are convictions, it means nothing.
These are just my thoughts on it, but if I were to pull over the President and arrest him for DUI, it wouldn't be right for me to write a book about it before it went to trial.
Norton
October 18, 2003, 08:10 AM
In all fairness, I felt like the movie was about as balanced as this sort of thing could be on TV. I had some of Drjones' concerns that they would just blame the whole thing on the "evil black rifle" that of its own volition aimed itself and killed those people:rolleyes:
However, I didn't get the sense that the movie dwelled on that. Instead it showed us how Moose and Duncan worked so hard to to heroically apprehend Muhammed and Malvo:uhoh:
I'd forgotten about Roc, er, I mean Dutton being a convicted murderer....hmm, what irony.
Now, in reality, the release of this movie will fan the anti's calls for more restrictions. It will remind them of how afraid they were one year ago and how more laws would have made all of the difference in preventing those bad guys from getting a rifle:banghead:
Travis McGee
October 18, 2003, 11:08 AM
Mohammed and Malvo were pikers. What's going to happen when a real "Super Columbine" happens, and the weapon is an "assault rifle?"
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greyhound
October 18, 2003, 07:57 PM
Just watched it on tape. As someone who lives in MD, it was pretty good at capturing the mood of the time. Not nearly as PC as I would have thought. Examples:
1) they show the snipers saying "Allahu Akbar" as they shoot one victim. I almost spewed Coke at that one. (I expected any reference to Islam to be weeded out).
2) they don't shy away from the "white man/box truck" stuff.
3) Muhammad is definately portrayed as an evil, sick man - not a "victim of society's oppression".
4) No focus on "the rifle made them do it". Bushmaster is named only once.
All in all, much better than the usual TV movie.
Honestly, though, I too think its in pretty poor taste to bring it out before the snipers are convicted. Then again, didn't stop me from watching it either.
Gopher
October 18, 2003, 09:27 PM
Remember NBC did the same thing with the Waco standoff. They were filming before the final event. I remember the actor playing Koresh saying they stopped filming on the day of the fire and watched in amazement as the end came.
The timing of this can not be good for the jury selection of the Mohamed trial this week either.
Zip06
October 19, 2003, 12:52 AM
Book deals + TV rights + Speaking Tours + Greed = Moose
Sensationalism + Television movies before the trial = < Justice
litework
October 19, 2003, 06:18 PM
I live about 30 minutes north of Fredericksburg and frequent the mall where one of the victims was shot. I watched the movie and was glad it wasn't anti-gun. I was surprised that the movie included a comment about England's dramatic increase in gun violence since their gun restrictions were put in place.
I wonder if the punks did actually use the "menacing" 30 round magazine that was overportrayed in the movie. The antis cannot get around the fact that had the killers used a bolt action rifle chambered in a larger caliber, like a hunting rifle, the death toll would have been higher. Again, gun restrictions are based on perception and cosmetics, not reality. It is wrong to profile people based on their appearance, but it is okay to profile weapons, and consequently profile the people who own said weapons, based on these cosmetics? What happened to the "other guy" who happened to own a Bushmaster rifle? Is he really the village idiot the movie portrayed him to be?
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