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peyton
May 30, 2009, 07:01 AM
Well Salinas Ca residents can sleep better that gang members and thugs are going to give up the means to their livelyhood. It is good to know my tax dollars are being wasted.

What needs to happen is turn in firearm, turn in DNA sample, and handcuffs for all that have prior convictions. Also who knows what is at the Northridge Shopping Center? No one cares if one of these firearms was used to commit one of the 14 gang-related homicides in 2009.

http://www.ksbw.com/cnn-news/19602114/detail.html

SALINAS, Calif. -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger announced a new program in Salinas on Friday that provides gift cards for guns.

The Gifts for Guns program allows people to turn in their gun while receiving a gift card -- no questions asked.

The money for the program comes from a $9.2 million state grant that went to four separate cities, including Salinas.

“There’s no higher priority for government than ensuring public safety, and by providing Salinas with the resources they need, we are fighting gang violence with suppression and prevention efforts that will make communities throughout California safer,” Schwarzenegger said in a news release.

The Salinas Police Department will start accepting guns June 6 at the Vineyard Church.

Gun owners who bring in a rifle will receive a $50 gift card, a handgun will bring in a $100 gift card and a $200 gift card will be given to those who turn in an assault rifle.

The gift cards, which are paid for by the Salinas business community, will be accepted by the Northridge Shopping Center.

The Gifts for Guns program was originally started by the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department in 2005.

"Salinas, like other California cities, has experienced more than its share of gang violence in the past 18 months," said Paul Seave, director of the Governor's Office of Gang and Youth Violence Policy. "I commend the brave and caring people of this city for their continuing efforts to end this violence through prevention, intervention, and suppression strategies."

Salinas has already witnessed 14 gang-related homicides in 2009.

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Mr. Bojangles
May 30, 2009, 07:41 AM
Hooray for **********, comrade. :uhoh:

heviarti
May 30, 2009, 09:03 AM
I say offer a hundred above it, and set up in a van nearby. Screw 'em and their buyback! or just offer an equal sum in cash. gift cards can't buy a crackhead drugs.

Coyote_Hunter_
May 30, 2009, 09:04 AM
The state is broke and then some.

They wanted to raise taxes, citing dire consequences if the measures didn't pass (the people voted them all down), but they still have money for this crap.

Probably won't even check serial numbers to see if any are stolen, just send them to be melted down.


Or, wouldn't it be funny if the cops SOLD the weapons to pick up a few bucks?

TexasRifleman
May 30, 2009, 09:15 AM
This is a state that is too broke to pay attention, and they want to waste 9 million dollars on this?


Let them have it. They will be begging other states for food later this year.

texas bulldog
May 30, 2009, 11:04 AM
while i have no real interest in defending california or gun buy-back programs...

in the interest of accuracy, i do feel the need to point out that the article says the cards were paid for by the salinas business community, not the taxpayers. that's not to say that they aren't paying an officer to sit there and for some small amount of administration time that went into planning this crap, but the taxpayers aren't exactly "buying" the guns.

again, i have no love of gun buy-backs. just accuracy...

TexasRifleman
May 30, 2009, 11:08 AM
in the interest of accuracy, i do feel the need to point out that the article says the cards were paid for by the salinas business community, not the taxpayers.

It also says:


The money for the program comes from a $9.2 million state grant that went to four separate cities, including Salinas.


No spin on earth will make these where they are NOT a waste of taxpayer money and public resources.

heviarti
May 30, 2009, 11:32 AM
Good.. then let the local businesses have the weapons to protect themselves from thugs. It all works out.

Threeband
May 30, 2009, 11:06 PM
Seems to me the state could make a little much-needed cash, buying guns for $50, then auctioning them on Gunbroker.

DRZinn
May 30, 2009, 11:51 PM
But then they'd still be "on the street."

CoRoMo
May 31, 2009, 12:11 AM
The only things Buy-Backs ever accomplish is separating widows’ late husband’s estate from law abiding and caring hands.

Rubbish.

Kansan
May 31, 2009, 12:15 AM
I happen to temporarily be a few miles from Salinas. I wonder if I could go down there next weekend and get some nice rifles for about $55, a few handguns for about $110, and a couple of them evil rifles for $215....

peyton
May 31, 2009, 01:03 AM
I think going and setting up a video camera would be a great idea. Capture the true image of the citizens that participate. Then with my tin foil hat on the police can run compare those pictures against convicts mug shots and bam drop them with federal charges. Tin foil hat off, this is CA and they will problably arrest a WWII vets widow for turning in a Luger or an MP40!!

happygeek
May 31, 2009, 01:41 AM
"Gun owners who bring in a rifle will receive a $50 gift card, a handgun will bring in a $100 gift card and a $200 gift card will be given to those who turn in an assault rifle."

Did that really get printed in the news?! Does no one fact check these people? If someone had an assault rifle without a permit from the BATFE they'd already be breaking the law. :banghead:

BoonHeng
May 31, 2009, 01:51 AM
General question anyone know where to get a hold of the STANAG 4179 specifications.

I am trying to design a new high capacity magazine for the NATO 5.56 rounds.

VINTAGE-SLOTCARS
May 31, 2009, 02:23 AM
Most of these gun buybacks net historical weapons that belong in a collector's basement, "not in the hands of whatever corrupt cop grabbed it from the evidence room."

Wow, are you bitter, where have you seen this happen? where did you get you information from?

VINTAGE-SLOTCARS
May 31, 2009, 02:34 AM
Theft is theft,and should be prosecuted. Having delt with one of these programs in California I can say its highly regulated and everything is is recorded. Please don't claim thefts are occuring unless you can cite a specific incident. I dont care for these programs either but they are very popular with government and the fools turning in their weapons.

Kansan
May 31, 2009, 02:41 AM
I showed the article to my wife and she said she's glad I showed her so she knows not to shop at northridge shopping center anytime soon. I thought that was a good point... I mean assuming that it really is gang bangers turning in all their guns (ok, suspend your common sense for a moment)... Now they've just sent all the gang people to the mall...

Oh, well. They were there before anyway. Maybe now that they have donated all their guns to their friends, the police, they will permanently turn from their life of crime and concentrate more on being savvy consumers.

Speedo66
May 31, 2009, 07:28 AM
+1 on the record keeping.

The one I attended in NYC, each firearm was immediately entered into a computer by ser. # before the bank cash card was issued. The same computer then issued the card, with value by the # of guns returned.

I did not see anything untoward going on there, and believe me, when I saw the value of the guns being handed in, I looked hard.

A US Army marked 1873 Colt SSA, several 1911s, high end SxS shotguns, etc. were all recorded.

Thankfully, I was told the Colt SSA would not be destroyed, but held at Rodman's Neck, the police range, for "historic and reference" purposes.

jpwilly
May 31, 2009, 10:47 AM
Is the turn in anonymous?

Hungry Seagull
May 31, 2009, 11:42 AM
Is this the Salinas I remember? A few truckstops, a food distribution area and a few other assorted businesses off the interstate?

What are they thinking? Gift cards for a gang member?

That just makes me throw up.

You want to bring in guns? Pay retail for them in cash and you will have a mountain to ship to scrap before long.

Heck take a look at this little webpage...

www.deadmalls.com That should get you thinking which malls are still alive.

DRZinn
May 31, 2009, 11:46 AM
I know it's a crime, and probably rare, but if a gun is going to be destroyed, what does it matter if it goes to a loving home instead? If the only alternative is destruction, and it hasn't been taken by force, then I wish the cops would take them home.

mg.mikael
May 31, 2009, 11:47 AM
WOW, California must have it pretty bad if they can't afford to give money at gun buy-backs. Instead their giving gift cards.........geez, guns for plastic, sounds like a way to bring in the true idiots.

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