My Brady Campaign Rage for today. (.50 BMG)


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Taylor'44
May 30, 2009, 07:03 PM
.50 Caliber Rifles have been illegal in California since 2004. And apparently this is why: (Sorry in advance to the gun people for my rage)

"In 1987, Barrett Firearms Manufacturing Inc., patented its self-described “armor-penetrating” .50 caliber BMG sniper rifle. Capable of destroying armored personnel carriers, aircraft and bulk fuel and ammunition sites, the .50 caliber sniper rifle is now proliferating in the civilian market. Accurate at up to 2,000 yards (20 football fields end-to-end) it can inflict effective damage to targets over four miles away. With more power on impact then any other semi-automatic rifle legally available on the civilian market, the .50 caliber represents a serious threat to our local law enforcement and national security.

Despite their destructive threat .50 caliber sniper rifles are only subject to the same minimal Federal regulations as shotguns, hunting rifles and smaller target rifles. Under Federal law, gun dealers may sell .50 caliber rifles to buyers 18 or older who pass a Brady background check. If a buyer purchases a .50 caliber rifle from a private seller, however, such as at a gun show, there is no age limit under Federal law to purchase the rifle and no background check."


"Despite their destructive threat . . ."

"With more power on impact then any other semi-automatic rifle legally available on the civilian market . . ."

"Capable of destroying armored personnel carriers, aircraft and bulk fuel and ammunition sites . . ."


Excuse me, but what?

When was the last time you heard of a civilian of any legal standing destroying "Armored Personnel carriers, aircraft, and bulk fuel and ammunition sites" at "up to 2,000 yards"

And the "homies" in the "hood" are sure to be that good at shooting, and that rich ($5000+ for one rifle)


As somebody who enjoys the shooting sports, I can tell you that it is pretty damned near impossible to hit anything at 2,000 yards with nothing more than an expensive gun and no training, even bulk ammunition sites.....

And that is why you cannot buy .50 caliber rifles in California.

But hey, you can still buy .51 caliber rifles!

Just my ventilation of today

I know this is old news to most of you, but as a Ca. resident, this really irks me.

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Schleprok62
May 30, 2009, 07:22 PM
Simple answer: Move...

Big_E
May 30, 2009, 07:26 PM
Yeah my family is sick and tired of California. We have been for a long time. Because I am going to attend a University in another state, that is my parents reason to move now.

TexasRifleman
May 30, 2009, 07:28 PM
And that is why you cannot buy .50 caliber rifles in California.

No, that's not why you can't buy .50 in California.

Those are just the excuses. The real reason is simply control over other people, your elected officials crave it, as most of them do in one way or another.

They haven't made a move for .416 Barrett, which was partly designed just to give them the finger. :)

And why haven't they made a move for .416? Because it's obscure. The .50 got a lot of play in the press over the last few years and going after banning it was a great way to get attention.

In the end the suggestion "move" sounds oversimplified but it's really the only option for people in repressive states.

Move, taking your tax dollars with you, to a more free state and be sure and let your representatives know why you are leaving.

Drastic? Probably, but I don't see any other way to send the message.

DeepSouth
May 30, 2009, 07:32 PM
Has one ever been used in a crime? I doubt it.

They are so...........never mind, you already know.

RatDrall
May 30, 2009, 07:40 PM
In the end the suggestion "move" sounds oversimplified but it's really the only option for people in repressive states.

I grew up in Wisconsin and moved as soon as the opportunity presented itself when I was 19 years old. I've lived in free states since.

It's a pain to move, but a necessary step.

P.B.Walsh
May 30, 2009, 07:53 PM
Wow, that sucks!!!!!!

I love living in Alabama!!!!

Taylor'44
May 30, 2009, 08:28 PM
My "That's why .50's are illegal" remark was sarcastic.

You can buy better rounds for the job. I mean, heck, BMG stands for Browning Machine Gun. Machine guns of any type are not usually known for their accuracy. If I were to buy any kind of high caliber high powered rifle, it would probably be in .416, or .510 DTC, though the former is far more advantageous, the latter is still over the half inch mark, which is just awesome no matter how you spin it.

Oh, and California got the top place on the Brady breakdown of "good" gun states.

Its interesting to see where your state ranks. Unless you live in California, then it is just depressing.

http://www.stategunlaws.org/xshare/pdf/scorecard/2008/2008_scorecard_rankings.pdf

That long list can be quite useful if read from the bottom, up.

Walkalong
May 30, 2009, 08:33 PM
I love living in Alabama!!!!Except we can't have a SBR. :(

Schleprok62
May 30, 2009, 08:43 PM
That long list can be quite useful if read from the bottom, up.

Hmmm... I live in Oklahoma... t-48th... Should I be skeered???

:D

Taylor'44
May 30, 2009, 08:55 PM
Well, we'd see the states of most resistance if somebody were to invade the homeland. They'd think its all fun and games on both coasts, but as they try to meet both forces in the middle, they'd find it pretty darn tough. We'll see who's safe then, Sarah Brady.

Alaska doesn't count. If anybody was smart enough to want it, they would also be smart enough not to invade it. It ranks pretty low (read: high) on the list.

longdayjake
May 30, 2009, 11:17 PM
HMMM i wonder what the violent crime statistics are for every state on that list and how close they are to the brady list for best gun laws.

cbrgator
May 30, 2009, 11:21 PM
longdayjake,

watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WOTplx2C-0

And here is a chart I compiled.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e96/SMAcbr/chart-2.jpg

HorseSoldier
May 30, 2009, 11:32 PM
I love living in Alabama!!!!
Except we can't have a SBR.

I never understood that, when I lived in Alabama. How a state that is otherwise so gun friendly completely bans SBRs is kind of weird.

Wes Janson
May 31, 2009, 12:58 AM
Very, very, very few people have any real knowledge of the capabilities and limitations of the .50 BMG cartridge and rifle offerings, even amongst the shooting community.

FWIW, an M113 is 15 feet long and 7.5 feet tall. A 7.5-foot-wide target at 2000 yards is approximately 4.5 MOA in diameter. Even taking into account the many factors of distance shooting, 4.5 MOA is fairly large. And an APC is twice that wide.

Galadren
May 31, 2009, 01:23 AM
Woo, Louisiana tied for 48!

What do the Red ones mean?

sarduy
May 31, 2009, 02:09 AM
longdayjake,

watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WOTplx2C-0

And here is a chart I compiled.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e96/SMAcbr/chart-2.jpg


what happen to FLA ?

Big_E
May 31, 2009, 02:58 AM
Lol, dang I will be moving from 79 points to 6 points. Thanks Idaho.

I really do not want to purchase a .50 BMG. However, I still think that my friends and neighbors should be able to. Gun control is so stupid, it doesn't matter what guns there are, but it depends on who the people living there are.

scythefwd
May 31, 2009, 03:26 AM
sorry sarduy, FL has been pluto'd. You have been reclassed as a continental hospice instead of a state :)

Seriously.. good catch.

eitrheim31
May 31, 2009, 05:26 AM
2,000 yards (20 football fields end-to-end)

that's actually 16 and 2/3 football fields end to end to get 2000 yards. does brady really need to tell the american people how far 2000 yards is? And just like the rest of there facts they try and give you, they fail miserably at it.

cbrgator
May 31, 2009, 12:01 PM
Sarduy,

The FBI does not have statistics reported from FL so I therefore obviously could not include them in the chart. Don't ask me why, but the FBI Crime statistics are only reporting for 49 states.

theotherwaldo
May 31, 2009, 02:12 PM
The real reason that politicians hate armor-piercing ammo is that they're driven around in armored limousines.

trstafford
June 1, 2009, 03:09 PM
I wonder what LA's statistics would look like without New Orleans in them, or NY without NYC, or CA without Los Angeles.

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