[MCNETT]

:fire: :fire: :fire:
Everyone, please be advised that the movie 'Runaway Jury' is not what it seems on the previews. It is anti-gun propaganda and I am ashamed that I watched it. I read the book previously and it had nothing to do with guns, but the movie sure did.
-Mike:cuss: :cuss: :fire:

[TonyB]

I understand the actual book it was based on wasn't about guns at all....hollywood's just trying to jump on the Bowling for Colombine band wagon..............I'm running out of movies I'll actually see..............
Runaway jury......anti-gun
Mystic River.......Sean Penn,Tim Robbins
Bring back John Wayne......................:cool:

[greyhound]

Yep, IIRC in the book it was the tobacco companies that were evil.

Kinda strange though - its not like calling tobacco companies evil is anti-PC, so why did they have to change the bad guy to a gun manufacturer?

Unlike "Sum Of All Fears" where its clear why they changed the Palestinian terrorists to white Nazis.:banghead:

[Nando Aqui]

That's what we were afraid of:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45097

Alex

[Okiecruffler]

I'm not sure I like the idea of calling tobacco companies evil either. I've never smoked in my life, but some of these nosey little "know better than you do" anti-smoking groups make me want to start.:cuss:

[MCNETT]

I'm not sure I like the idea of calling tobacco companies evil either. I've never smoked in my life, but some of these nosey little "know better than you do" anti-smoking groups make me want to start.

My thoughts exactly.
-Mike

[Bill Hook]

I won't give my $8 to anti-gun propagandists (apologies to Standing Wolf).

[ballistic gelatin]

RUNAWAY JURY

I can't think of enough bad things to say about this movie. I really can't believe how blatantly anti it is. I almost got up and walked out more than once. During a couple of their speeches on the evils of guns, I wanted to shout out "bull$*!#".

My wife thought it would be kinda like "The Firm" with Tom Cruise. She whispered to me several times how sorry she was about the whole thing. We had no idea...

They did a fabulous job of painting gun manufacturers and dealers as men without a conscience. Men who are alcoholics, power hungry, greedy and and who consider themselves above the law. It was a pathetic hollywood story where those who dream of a world without guns are objective, hold fast to their convictions and in the end, vote with their hearts to do the right thing and blame the EVIL FIREARM MANUFACTURERS for a crazed man's shooting spree. The final scene is a bunch of inner city kids on a playground with an eight foot chain link fence, all jumping rope and playing hoops and smiling and laughing with the main characters hugging and smiling knowing that the world is going to be a safer place.

I just can't believe I actually paid to see that movie. I also can't believe I sat through it. When the lights came up and everyone was piling out, I said in a loud voice, "Honey...I really need to go shoot my rifle tomorrow."

I'm still p!$$ed...

Did I mention that they made the 2nd Ammendment look like it was the reason for all the "sensless deaths" in this nation and needed to be erased? Total freaking crap! PLEASE, DO NOT SPEND MONEY ON THIS MOVIE

Who's in this movie? (http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1808418750&intl=us)
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[sturmruger]

I read the book a couple of years ago. IT was a fantastic book with allot of great courtroom suspense. I am sick of everyone picking on the Tobacco companies, but really don't care too much if they do. I can't believe they can change the entire plot of a movie and then try to pass it off as the same as the book!!! I am sorry so many of you wasted $8 to see it. I have never walked out of a movie but I am sure I would have in this movie. I will go see Kill Bill instead.

[morganm01]

Why don't you guys go to Yahoo Movies and write a review!

http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/drv?mid=1808418750

Average user rating is A- with 95 user reviews and 630 ratings!

[Jason Demond]

IMDB Runaway Jury forum. (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0313542/board/threads/)

[Hatchett]

I think you came out of that one looking a little crazy, Jason. You might want to tone it down for those sort of readers.

[Jason Demond]

That's the way I feel. I can't help myself.;)

[keederdag]

Thanks for the Heads up. I will not be seeing that crap; and I'll tell everyone I know too. Good job man:)

[Standing Wolf]

I won't give my $8 to anti-gun propagandists (apologies to Standing Wolf).

Absolutely none needed, friend—and I wouldn't, either.

[FTG-05]

Shameless BTT.

Gunowners need tovote with their dollars and kill this movie.

I've already told my family that this movie will not enter my house.

Albin

[durango]

I second the motion that everyone should rate this movie. The user reviews at Yahoo give it an A- rating with lots of anti-gun yahoos talking it up like it's the best thing since Michael Moore. Don't let this POS run away with an A-

http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/drv?mid=1808418750

[MCNETT]

I agree, everyone go to that website and put in a review.

[Travis McGee]

I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Hollywood to make a film adaptation of my novel.

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And if they did, they would want to change the BATF to the heroic defenders of truth, justice and the American way, so no thanks in advance.

[Travis McGee]

Let's try that again!

http://matthewbracken.web.aplus.net/bookcover.jpg

[stevelyn]

The local FOX affiliate did a movie review. The talking head said it takes swipes at the 2nd Amendment (her words). There was a short soundbite with Dustin Hoffman regurgitating VPC/Million Moron/Brady junk statistic lies about the 80% of Americans in favor of gun control.:barf: :banghead:

[Nightfall]

:barf:

It says so much to me that gun control advocates have to resort to emotional propaganda rather then factual debates to win hearts and minds...

[Captain Bligh]

My wife wanted a date last night so we saw this movie. I am a Grisham fan and had read the book. I admit surprise and disappointment when I saw that they had shifted the subject of the movie from a tobacco lawsuit to a gun-related lawsuit.

I felt much differently about it after leaving the movie than I did in the first five minutes when I realized they had changed the subject. I thought the subject of the lawsuit was irreleveant to the movie. The movie wasn't about guns but it was about the notion that a jury could be tampered with and that those in the legal system can become corrupt by geed and the desire to win. It could have just as easily been about Ford Pintos, tobacco, or anything else.

I could just as easily been upset about them doing a tobacco related lawsuit. I don't smoke cigarettes but think the legal claims aganst tobacco companies are absurd. I am 52 and I've known my entrie life that smoking can kill you if you do it long enough. If I chose to take that risk, who am I to say it is RJR's fault?

The movie was about opportunistic greedy people and legal corruption--not guns, cars, or tobacco.

Taking the ohter fork in the road,
RJ

[gunsmith]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/
it's better known among movie folks

[Drjones]

I'm very surprised that there are actually some reasonable, intelligent people on that IMDB forum.

Too bad about the movie....oh well, I didn't want to see it anyway and definitely will not now.

[morganm01]

Movie is now a "B+" from an "A-" yesterday!

http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/drv?mid=1808418750

[Jake]

On a good side note the movie didn't do that well over the weekend, came in 3rd with $12.1 million, and will probably disappear pretty quick from theaters.

[LawDog]

Heh.

Took four friends.

Five minutes into the movie, we walked out.

Demanded our money back from the manager.

That is how you send a message to Hollywood.

LawDog

[mini14jac]

Man, I wish I had done some reading here before I spent my cash!
:(

There was no attempt at even-handedness at all.
When the Dustin Hoffman character is attacking the gun industry, he has the camera's full attention.
When the guy defending the (evil) gun industry gets up to speak, his voice becomes background while the camera focuses on other characters.

I knew the tobacco lawsuits were just opening the door.
Fortunately, the real-life gun suits haven't done quite as well as the movie. :D

I don't think I've been that ticked off walking out of a movie in a long time.

Kudos, LawDog,
Wish I had thought of that.

[ballistic gelatin]

I really wanted to walk out too but I had to see what they were up to. Now I know and I don't like it one bit! Expect the TRUTH kids to start making gun commercials any day.

[gun-fucious]

Texas Chainsaw was #1 movie this weekend
Kill Bill # 2

[Wolfy]

I am truly sorry I didn't see this thread before I saw the movie tonight. I am so pi$$ed off right now this was the worst movie I ever saw. How can you hold an entire industry responsible when in the movie they admit the gun was bought ILLEGALLY out of a trunk. This movie had a huge gaping whole in logic that no one acknowleged!!!! Thank God for the NRA because they have forced back every one of the frivolous lawsuits and keep winning. I feel better nowing I bought another shotty tonight before the movie (a Remington 870) but when I walked out of the theatre I felt dirty.

I also thought about walking out because I read the book and knew exactly which way the train wreck was headed. To bad because it was a great book that was turned into propoganda for the sheeple.

[PrudentGT]

The talking head said it takes swipes at the 2nd Amendment (her words).

Ooops! You mean the second amendment isn't a collective right that can be regulated out of existence? Looks like they know what it means after all...

[DDGator]

I didn't like the gun message of the movie either...

But did you notice how far they had to stretch in order to make the audience angry with the gun manufacturers?

First, the movie is about a gun already banned by the AWB so this could not happen. It also involves sales of multiple guns to an individual that would have to have been reported by the dealer to the ATF. Another problem.

Most importantly, however, they had to allude to the fact that the gun companies were intentionally making and marketing the gun to criminals for illegal use... Huh? That was not developed at all -- just alluded to without specifics. And then, the topper was the fact that the gun was advertised as having a "fingerprint resistant" finish. What kind of crap is that?

The bizzare part is that if all the things they were saying about this gun company were true (not sure how that could be possible -- but assume for the sake of argument) -- I am sure a lot of us would be appalled as well.

Now, the average sheeple will think that Glock and S&W act like these bad guys portreyed in the movie and that guns like this are really for sale. And that part... is sad.

[ballistic gelatin]

the average sheeple will think that Glock and S&W act like these bad guys portreyed in the movie and that guns like this are really for saleThen they'll ask why I need a 10 round magazine in a semiautomatic pistol. And why on earth would anyone want to carry one around with them. I think we should all know that more people are injured or killed with firearms than are protected by them.

[spacemanspiff]

hbo usually does a 15 minute filler where they focus on 'the making of....' various movies. yesterday they aired one for this one in discussion. its the first time they've ever NOT divulged the actual premise of the movie. instead, they went into how they decided to use certain sets, and how sophisticated they made the jury selection, and how there is one climatic scene with hoffman and hackman where they face off in the restroom.
not once did they discuss any particulars.

either hbo doesnt want to be seen as promoting guns or gun-control; or they dont want to agitate pro-gunnies into not watching it at the box-office.

[ballistic gelatin]

I saw the previews this weekend. It's been out too long for them to be running previews on TV, but when you're trying to increase awareness, hey, anything goes. It's very interesting how they NEVER let you know what the movie is about. Instead they just show you the big names and the FEW action scenes. Mis-information and desparation at the same time.

[Balog]

Men who are alcoholics, power hungry, greedy and and who consider themselves above the law.

Sounds like a Ted Kennedy biopic.

[raz-0]

well, I hadn't been paying close attention, and didn't know it had been changed from the book. My girlfried dragged me to see it, and I would have been majorly pissed if not for one thing.

They just beat the drum so hard that about 80% of the audience was grumbling about how unrealistic and preachy it was. This is in NJ.

You will note that it is not making a lot of cash. It's at $33 million. Budget was $60M, and it's running to typical advertising spot placement which means another $30M. It's in the hole, and by enough that overseas releases would be a gamble. (also, I believe the john grisham rights might not allow it, the only one of his movies that has been overseas is the frim).