Primers, lots of them.

I've been on the waiting list for some CCI small rifle primers at several local shops. They've been getting LR in sporadically, but no SR for some time now. Got a call yesterday, saying they had some in. Today another shop called. Each shop said they had gotten quite a few in. I told each to save me a thousand, as I don't need more than that really and since they are 50 miles from me it will be a while before I can pick them up.

One shop has had LR on the shelf everytime I've been in there for the last month or so. I'm just glad to see them showing back up.

BTW, price went up some. $27 and $28/thousand.

I told each to save me a thousand, as I don't need more than that really and since they are 50 miles from me it will be a while before I can pick them up.
Then why wouldn't you start stocking up? Since they're available, and a good price, don't bitch and whine when they're not available again in a few months. This is part of my current inventory as of yesterday

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Oh for cryin' out loud. Who is bitching and whining?

All of these clowns running around buying every primer they find are what is causing this whole 'shortage'. I haven't even shot all of last 1k SR I bought, I just haven't shot that much this year. I'll let someone else get to buy a few as well. All I'm doing is keeping my stock replaced.

I've got a drawer full of primers as well, I was just commenting that it was good to see them in stores again.

I'd much rather see lots of them in the stores than having to use up my stash.

I have been able to find SRP. I have not been able to find SPP. When find some I am going to buy a bunch. There is only one part of ammo that I can't manufacture myself, primers. I can't make powder that is competitive with modern powders; but it will do. Manufacturing Pre-WW2 nitrocellulose is not that difficult (the French did it). If I were a commie and I wanted to control firearms in America, I would buy all of the primers. $50 million will buy all of the primers sold for every purpose to individuals in the whole world. You would not need to change a single law. Yes we can...hope and change...

$50 million will buy all of the primers sold for every purpose Well, that's exactly what happened, dude.

But it wasn't communists, it was reloaders freakin' out after the election.

A half million loaders spent $100 each, and suddenly 50 million dollars were spent and the shelves went empty.


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Not that I'm blaming any of you, we just need to see it as it really happened.

Only a hundred bucks apiece, and a half million consumers can hit an industry really hard.

This is part of my current inventory as of yesterday Please, be careful, man.

I am afraid that something like this may explode in natural and then in mass media sense. People will become worried of their stockpiling neighbors. This may result in additional regulations.

Only a hundred bucks apiece, and a half million consumers can hit an industry really hard.

Think of the message it would send if a half million Americans spent a hundred bucks less on Chinese imports this month

Hell, lets all pool our money and stary our own primer factory!!

J.B.

Cabela's just shipped me 5k primers, Remington 7 1/2's for $31/K. Ordered them in late April and shipped today. Six weeks is not bad in this market.

Oh for cryin' out loud. Who is bitching and whining?
Guess you haven't been a member here very long. Go back a month or two and there would be two or three threads running at a time about primer shortage. If I get real bored, I'll go back and pull up the links to over a dozen threads that ran in a week or two period.

If I had to drive 50 miles each way, I'd get more than 1k. Maybe that's just me.

Good deal Paradox. I ordered 10k of WLP in mid April and have yet to see them. I don't know whether to be happy that they are coming in or mad because I ordered some earlier and have yet to see any. I ordered Win since when I ordered, the site said 1 to 2 weeks while Rem said 5 to 6 weeks. That's what I get for believing them! Oh well, I've found a couple thousand locally so I'm still set for a little bit.

John

Thanks for the info. NorCalRanches, it's good to know primers are starting to come in.

To me, it didn't sound like NorCalRanches was whining. And I think he and Ants nailed the cause of the shortage. Self-inflicted. :banghead: Just my humble opinion.

I don't know how many of us reloaders there are, but Ants' numbers sound very reasonable. If you just do the simple math, it explains a lot.

P51D

Redneck2 - guys who hoard, like you, are part of the reason there's a shortage.

All depends on the production run. I'm getting pretty low at maybe 15K primers but have another 150,000 on order from CCI.

Redneck2 - guys who hoard, like you, are part of the reason there's a shortage.

I don't even think there's 15,000 primers in that picture. That's not very many.

Cabela's just shipped me 5k primers, Remington 7 1/2's for $31/K.
That's sounds good, the 7½'s haven't been easy to find.
I bought 18,000 after the election for around $24 per K.

The problem I have with Cabelas is that they charge me sales tax.

Looks like only ~12,000 primers in that picture. That wouldn't get me through the Summer so it's hardly hoarding. Some guys were bragging about having 150,000 primers, now that's more like hoarding. :scrutiny:

(BTW, if Federal didn't use such huge boxes it wouldn't look like a lot of primers!! LOL)

I will spend the early spring months-Feb to April- processing my brass and loading it for the warm weather target season. I am talking several 5 gal buckets of pistol alone,and more than 2 of rifle. Now that my busy season is here I will have to do it instead of other summer things- if the primers do return. I can go through 12,000 primers in less than a week when I am into the priming stage of pistol brass! My next big investment is going to be an indoor pistol range, probably 3 station with a garage/storage over it. Driving to the local range 40 miles away wastes lots of time and money, I could be using it to shoot instead.

Redneck2 - guys who hoard, like you, are part of the reason there's a shortage.
Many of these were bought long before the primer "crisis". When primers are readily available, I'd suggest you try to build to the same amount. Those of you that don't can cut and paste their whining from the recent threads to start new ones in a few years when primers and components are short again.

FWIW...I'm planning a prairie dog hunt later this summer. That will take 4k alone. I'll load and take my guns for my friends to shoot. We'll go thru maybe 500 rounds a day for each guy.

If guys would shoot as much as they type, they'd figure out that you DO actually use ammo and need it replaced. I worked in a gun shop. Amazing how many guns get traded in that have never been fired.

Whats going to be interesting is when the field of buyers that are hoarding primers realize that they will not get the high prices they imagined just the same as when a new high rated video game or console comes out and people flock out to buy as many as they can just to turn right around to resell to the ones that are in a mad frenzy to buy and believe they absolutely must have it right now.

What I think will happen is there will be so much primers out on the market in private hands trying to get sold that there will be a redistribution, right now I think that most all primers are being bought by people with none or minimal reloading equipment, most people cannot get bullets, dies or powders, some have no idea the proper tools and safety steps involved in reloading, but yet they will buy 10,000 primers. Now what to do? They cannot reload without a die or powder or cases or bullets, so they will probably just sell off the primers eventually and give up the idea of reloading.

Real reloaders stocked up years ago and usually buy all the components at one time.

If I could find 1k SP primers around here to get me started in pistol loading, I'd be quite happy. Just 1k is all I want. But, nada around here; I check weekly. :rolleyes:

The 2k SR and 1k LR I bought before the shortage will keep me going on rifle for a while.

Sounds like some people need to nap instead of reading THR threads and posting negativity on our current primer plight.

Me, I cannot shoot in the house (anymore) so I spend that time communicating with like-minded enthusiasts here.

Glad the hear primers are coming back in stock around the states. With metal prices down again and the economy looking positive we are poised for another spell of good shooting times.


Justin- (cautiously not adding to the shortage)

well... across the pond in wonderful France we are starting to see some shortages...
A few of the local places no longer have any CCI primers and no idea when they will be back in stock.

Even though we only get VV and Tubal powders... some VV powders have gone missing.
Luckily I have a few primers... though am missing N550 sorely.

I'm an old fart and remember the primer shortage of 1994. So I always "hoard" a good sized stash of primers.

Federals came in 2 weeks ago at my local shop. I picked up 2k of SP to replace what I'd loaded this spring.

Redneck2 - guys who hoard, like you, are part of the reason there's a shortage.
What some of you non-shooting newbies don't realize is that there are various primers in the picture. Some are regular LR, some are match, some are SR, some are mag LP, some are SP. If you get all torqued up about a few primers, this is my loaded ammo store. Better sit down before you look. I don't think buying one sleeve at a time is gong to keep me going.
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They seem to be showing back up. I got 2000 Federal SP a couple of weeks ago and ordered 5000 CCI SR primers today- in stock at Natchez.

Today Natchez allowed orders not exceeding 5k quantity, but you can order another 5k again tomorrow.

"What some of you non-shooting newbies...."

Let me just say this. First of all I'm certainly not a non-shooting newbie, just FYI. I also have learned over the years that there's an "expert" on EVERY forum. Would that be you here?

Man, people sure are getting touchy about primers.

The original intent of my post was to acknowledge that supplies seem to be coming back. I was simply expressing my joy at seeing them in the stores.

I don't feel a need to post a picture of my stash of primers on the internet but rest assured I have plenty. Most of them are in packaging that dates them to the late 80's, early 90's. When I use a brick (1000) I buy some more, or maybe a sleeve if I'm ordering a bunch of stuff online anyway. I don't think that is "hoarding".

Now, if I were take the advice of some here and buy every damn primer I see on the shelves just because they are there, that might be hoarding. I only need to replace what I've used lately.

I'd much rather see primers on all the shelves rather than having a stockpile at home I actually have to use.

NorCalRanches and My Fellow THR Crew,

I am pretty sure that we all got into this because it was fun, plain and simple. Somewhere along the lines, we have kinda gotten away from that and some of us are acting a bit like "F everyone, it's every man for himself - Where's the components" almost a feeding frenzey but with a hint of obsessive compulsiveness thrown in to boot.

BUT - I have also seen some brotherhood through this and that is what we need to get back to. Stop the bickering and finger pointing and stand as one because divided - WE DO NOT STAND A CHANCE.

With all the crap that is on the news, we need to stand firm together as if we were in the front lines of an attack. Those same people that you would make pay $50.00 - $100.00 for a 1k box of primers are the same people you would have to watch your back if SHTF.

We have to get it together and stand together - stand proud - stand as one.

LGB

BUT - I have also seen some brotherhood through this and that is what we need to get back to. Stop the bickering and finger pointing and stand as one because divided - WE DO NOT STAND A CHANCE.

With all the crap that is on the news, we need to stand firm together as if we were in the front lines of an attack. Those same people that you would make pay $50.00 - $100.00 for a 1k box of primers are the same people you would have to watch your back if SHTF.

We have to get it together and stand together - stand proud - stand as one.

LGB
Well said lgbloader...
I have plenty of primers for my own use and haven't sold any even though the prices are high. I have however GIVEN some primers away to a few guys I know at the range. Mind you, these guys aren't really friends, just people you see at the range all the time who can't find primers anywhere are a fair price. (read: a price they can afford)

We have to stick together, especially with what's now going on in Washington. Treat others as you wish to be treated. That will make it better for everyone.

I'm satisfied with lgbloader's message.

If there wasn't so much hassle with a NON-hazmat person shipping primers, I would have donated half my stash to 10's of people in need of primers here on THR.

Justin

Maybe youd consider me a horder too. I have bought primers by the case for 20 years. One guys idea of a pile of primers isnt the same as anohter. One guy may only shoot a 1000 round a year and think anyone buying by the case is a horder but some of us shoot that in a good week. If i get down below a case of any style primer im in panic mode.