Fake Swede m/94 carbine


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Float Pilot
June 4, 2009, 01:25 AM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=130658777

This thing has been relisted a couple times as a collectable even though myself and others from the Swede Military Rifles collectors site have advised the seller that it is a fake.

This is a m/96 long rifle that has been bubba'd to appear like an m/94 carbine.

Look at the photos and note:

1. Spoon handle bolt (not military)
2. M/96 rifle grasping grooves prove it is a cut down m/96 stock.
3. Stock cut made to appear like an m/94 carbone, however it is not inletted for the sling buckle.
4. M/96 long slide military rear sight ladder.
5. Barrel step visible proving it is a butched m/96.
6. Stock disc in wrong location for a m/94, since it is really a m/96 stock.
7. Same for rear sling swivel. The real carbines do not have one. They use a stock mounting system.

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mongo4567
June 4, 2009, 01:28 AM
Too bad they cut up a very nice elm 96 stock in the process. The 96 with the rare stock was worth more than the fake 94 by a long shot.

Float Pilot
June 4, 2009, 01:29 AM
Make you wanna puke, don't it....?

NCsmitty
June 4, 2009, 10:35 AM
There will always be those that try scamming to line their pockets. I'm sure there are more than a few fake M94's around, made from a hodge-podge of parts. Damn shame.


NCsmitty

scotjute
June 4, 2009, 10:38 AM
Didn't the '94 have a straight bolt? It could be the original bolt, but its obviously been worked on.

Float Pilot
June 4, 2009, 03:47 PM
The real m/94 cavalry carbines had turned down bolts. They were made to be slung across a horsemans back. They even issued a special leather pad that protected their uniform from having the action rub against it while the horse was trotting.

Around 1914 and later, the carbines were modified to include the bayonet mount. Those are 94-14 carbines.

There were a very few (School Carbines) made for cadet schools which were specially made m/94s with a straight bolt and regular sling mounts. Those even had a special canvas sling for the kids to use. AND NO STOCK SLING SLOT. Those School Carbines all has a special serial number range.


In this case somebody took a nice m/96 rifle and hacked it up trying to make it look like an m/94-14 carbine. The original bolt on the m/96 rifle would have been straight.

Loaded m/94 carbines are still used by the Palace Guard units in Sweden.

Here are pics of a real M/94-14, notice the short grasping groove, the short sight ladder and the lack of a under-hung sling attach point.

Float Pilot
June 21, 2009, 06:48 PM
This seller on Gun Brokers is re-listing it again as an original even though I know of 4 people, including myself who have told him we know it is a fake. What a jerk!
Gunbrokers has also been notified but they won't do anything about it...

Gelgoog
June 22, 2009, 12:24 AM
it will sell because he has a good reputation. I wonder if we will get the buyer on here asking *** he just bought.

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