[Sportcat]

God please protect these students... http://wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1487770&nav=0RaMIbjF

[DMK]

Seriously, what is the reason CCL is not valid in schools?

[Standing Wolf]

Seriously, what is the reason CCL is not valid in schools?

Obviously, only adults' lives are worth protecting and defending. Children don't count.

[BHPshooter]

Upon seeing the thread title, I had to just say: And we're not "allowed" to carry everywhere we go because...?

I mean, really. There's no logic in today's society.

I suggest you read Peter Mancus' Liberty over at www.keepandbeararms.com

Cheers,
Wes

[BowStreetRunner]

we cant carry in colleges because a classroom full of adults is not a place for a gun, i mean, in the course of academic debate, i might get upset and shoot someone!

[Phantom Warrior]

Colleges=bastions of liberalism

*shrug*

[Travis McGee]

Colleges must remain "Gun Free Zones" in order to make it easier for the next maniac to rack up a huge body count unopposed.

http://matthewbracken.web.aplus.net/snakelogo.jpg

[Moparmike]

Yup, with the average of 2 rapes on campus per year, I cant help but wonder why CCW isnt legal on campus. Hell, why isnt it 18? Not everyone on campus is 21 you know...:fire:

[Sunray]

You can't carry on campus for one reason. The school is private property and your government gave private entities the right to make their own rules.

[Demon440]

no in florida its the law, if it were just a rule I would say f-it.

[voilsb]

Umm, I don't know about SC, but here in Oregon it's perfectly legal to CCW on campus.

So I'm not sure what you're talking about :D

[c_yeager]

College campuses are one of those special places where really extreme liberals are allowed to mantain control with noone reasonable to tell them when to cut it out. This is whay concealed carry is not allowed on most campuses.

[gunsmith]

ccw on campus...I could be wrong tho.

[Jhaislet]

Here in Texas, you can carry concealed with a CHL on state university property, BUT, the second you step one inch inside a building, your ??? goes to jail (theoretically). It's the most rediculous thing I've heard of. It's ok to carry your gun while walking from your vehicle (at night across a deserted campus), but you better leave the damn thing hidden in outside...God help ya if you bring it inside... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

-a$$ Backwards :fire:

[Jeff Timm]

DMK asked, Seriously, what is the reason CCL is not valid in schools?

The local drug gangs have paid the politiciians for the priviledge, and exclusive rights.

Geoff
Who likes simple answers.:barf:

[sm]

Because the gummit gonna take care of you. [translated, we the gummit can't control you if the people , including students and faculty are armed].

Because if we "re- educate" long enough people will give in. See Emerson was wrong ( according to gummit) this silly business of "self responsiblity" is wrong for the good of the State...err...and this Thoreau fella with Civil Disobedience...oh my, can't have that...

Being an older returning student anyone remember Pink Floyd ?
www.azlyrics.com
"Another Brick In The Wall (Part II)"
"...We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control..."

"You can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat, how can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?...."

[greyhound]

I think c_yeager is spot on. Plus, do you really think the college administrators trust the students to be responsible adults?

I will admit that maybe liability insurance has something to do with it, but let the CCW holding crime victims start suing because of their disarming and see what happens. (though I guess the bulk of students < 21, and therefore not eligible for CCW in most states).

[TarpleyG]

Kearns is barred from stepping foot on the USC campus. If found on campus, he could be arrested for trespassing.
Oooooooo!!! TRESPASSING? Throw the damn book at him. Anyway, like this little condition of his release is going to stop him. HE'S A CRIMINAL. HE DOESN'T GO BY THE LAW.

GT

[Chris Rhines]

The school is private property and your government gave private entities the right to make their own rules.

In point of fact, most college campuses are public property, by virtue of their recieving state funds for maintenence and upkeep. There is no legal reason why carrying a weapon should be restricted on public property.

- Chris

[BHPshooter]

Gunsmith, actually most of the campuses in Utah have rules against carrying on campus. U of U is vehemently trying to make it illegal to bring a gun on any campus. Seems there's too many sheep there.

Wes

[labgrade]

"You can't carry on campus for one reason. The school is private property and your government gave private entities the right to make their own rules."

Spot on, Chris.

The majority of these "schools" are tax-funded by the public.

This enters into that "public/private" partnership entities such as football stadia, et al.

They say they are private entities, but are funded, either through bonds/taxes/whatever - it's still a taxpayer-funded entity, but are "private" according to legaleese. :barf:

Catch-a 22 = you get to finance (public) whilst losing any semblance of rights (private).

If you take a concerted effort to see, you'll find many an entity that falls within these "legal" boundaries.

Disgusting.

& besides, if a 12 year old can pass the CCW test, why not allow it>

I've known many a responsible youngster who I'd trust with a shotgun in back of me while hunting, but would never allow a 45 yr old anywhere close to a car key .....

[ysr_racer]

>> And we're not allowed to carry on campus because... ?

Booze, drugs, children acting foolish. Take your pick.

I know at 21 everybody thinks they know everything, but as you get a little older your opinion might change. Mine did.

[Moparmike]

I knew everything at 16. Only the slow and feeble-minded take that extra 5 years.:evil: :neener:

[Logistar]

In Kentucky, I have GOOD NEWS and BAD NEWS.

The GOOD news: CCW is legal in post-secondary institutions.

The BAD news. While legal, most Colleges (including mine) prohibit students from carrying. They will likely be permanently expelled if caught. - It's one of the rules they must agree to when signing up.

Teachers have the same problem. There is the "no-weapons" policy that can result in dismissal.

So, if I have this straight...... it IS legal to enter our school building while carrying (if you have your CCW) but if you are a student or faculty member, you can be expelled/fired for doing so.

:fire: :cuss:

Logistar

[Chris Rhines]

That's how my school was; it was legal to carry if one had the appropriate paperwork, but getting caught would get you expelled.

Sigh.

- Chris

[synoptic]

Booze, drugs, children acting foolish. Take your pick.

Let's keep in mind we're talking about those of us who take the time and money to be able to carry in the first place, not just saying that all sudents can carry on campus. If anything, you've just stated 3 reasons TO carry on campus.

[pcf]

College Campuses are the worst Anti-Rights places. Free Speech, if the university doesn't agree with it, you don't speak. If other students don't agree, they'll do everything they can to shut you down. Want to read a gun mag in a lounge, see how long it take for Campus Police to start hanging around. Depending on the campus you may have signed your Fourth Admendment rights, especially if you live in the dorms. Get accused of a crime and you run the risk of getting expelled (unless your rich, or its drug related), regardless of whether your innocent or not. College is the closest thing you can find to North Korea this side of the Pacific.

[Zackmeister]

"It is unlawful to go with a firearm: on the premises of a school or educational institution or activity sponsored thereby; in a vehicle of a school or educational institution"

This is what I found for Texas at the NRA site. jhaislet, are you sure you can CHL on campus?

[synoptic]

(3) "Premises" means a building or a portion of a building. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.

Taken from the penal code. This is why we can carry on the campus but not in the buildings

[PUMC_TomG]

Personally, on this campus I've never been in a situation that I couldn't get out of with one of my pieces of sharp steel, or by beating my own to feet in rapid succession one in front of the other.

However, I also believe that I should be allowed to carry my pistol on campus. The State of Indiana already licensed me to carry once... And the State of Florida is about to once I get home for fingerprinting and finish my application. Why I am instantly incapable once I get on a college campus is beyond me.

However, I am also a proponent of the "Rather judged by 12 than carried by 6" philosophy. And, if an individual is truly carrying concealed, the only way you'll be caught is in one of the routine hassles by campus police if they decide to Terry Frisk you.

I'm not endorsing carrying or not carrying. It's your mind to make, and your @** and legal bills should you get caught doing something illegal, or in my case - education should I get expelled.