My SHTF Collection


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sonogy47
June 4, 2009, 09:06 PM
Hey guys. I don't know anyone who appreciates guns personally. No one in my family or my friends do. I am looking for some feedback on a few in my collection. Here is a pic of some of my favorites. Included in this pic: Remington 12 ga. and 20 ga., Ruger 44 magnum carbine, Colt LE6920 AR15, Century Arms WASR10 AK47, Kahr CW9 9mm, Springfield XD45, Smith and Wesson .357 Magnum revolver, Three NAA .22 magnum mini revolvers, I'm not sure what the 2 handguns on the right are because I inherited them. Anyone know?:cool:

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mcdonl
June 4, 2009, 09:09 PM
Love that 44 carbine.

P.B.Walsh
June 4, 2009, 09:30 PM
Nice collection, but don't expect me to tote all that during SHTF, I'll take a few off your hands. :)

Oh, crap, I almost forgot, welcome to The High Road. :)

CWL
June 4, 2009, 09:42 PM
sonogy47,
Welcome to THR!

I think I would sell those NAA minis and get some more ammo! If you are expecting bad times, you'd be better-off with more long gun ammo and shotshells than .22mags!

So why do you have 3 NAAs?

gondorian
June 4, 2009, 09:50 PM
That's a whole lot to carry if SHTF, but I guess if the zombies come your have plenty for your friends to shoot when they come to you for help ;)

DocBoCook
June 4, 2009, 10:02 PM
nice setup, hope you never have to use them for that purpose.

cyclopsshooter
June 4, 2009, 10:06 PM
Sir, please call me for and appointment.
Agent Johnson
BATFE
1/800/GET/GUNS

Ohio Gun Guy
June 4, 2009, 10:06 PM
That is a great start to a gun collection! ;)

Welcome!

sarduy
June 4, 2009, 10:34 PM
That's a very nice "first thread" ;)

welcome to THR

sonogy47
June 4, 2009, 10:41 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys. The reason I have 3 mini revolvers is because I inherited one and I mistakenly bought 2 of them thinking they would be good carry guns for my wife and me. Turns out that my wife will not touch a gun, and I figured out that I can't hit anything with them at all. You must need to be an expert to shoot those minis. I figure I'll trade them if times get desperate. Now I'm going to work on upgrades for my Colt AR.

sonogy47
June 4, 2009, 10:55 PM
Here's a pic from the other side with a view of some ammo.

sonogy47
June 4, 2009, 11:04 PM
Here's a pic of the rest of my collection. I inherited a lot of these guns. So I'm not sure what a few of them are.

P.B.Walsh
June 4, 2009, 11:21 PM
Damn dude, now your just braggin!!!!!! Very nice collection, but you need to get some "black". And you know those muskets you got there is just SCREAMING for some camo paint (or camo wrap). :)

My collection is, hold on, I might need to go count them, hold on..........., ok, I'm back after a few seconds and I have a great number of.....drumroll please..... 5 guns!!!! A S&W .38+P revolver, Mossberg 16ga. semi-auto shotgun, NEF .410, Remington Model 34 .22, and my one modern gun, a Remington 700.

BTW, PM me if you need someone to take them off your hand. I will adopt them and place them in a VERY loving home. :)

Ohio Gun Guy
June 4, 2009, 11:49 PM
You should get some good oil on some of those. I use mobile 1.
The bolt action looks like a 1903 springfield. If you look up the serial number, you can find out they year of manufacturer. some of those can be worth a little money. Although the stock has been altered, you can find original stocks. If your willing to share some info. quite a few of the folks on here could tell you more than you want to know.

cbrgator
June 4, 2009, 11:52 PM
Get some more mags for the AK and AR.

Ignition Override
June 5, 2009, 01:32 AM
Sonogy:

Very nice, but when ammo prices drop some more, as CWL said, you need a good bit more.

After the Congressional elections in 1 1/2 years, something could quickly change, and our President will have a much better idea about his re-election chances, and whether he and the rest can survive any risky gun legislation (by then maybe little to lose, politically?).
Somebody at Cabinet or Senate level has just exerted 'hidden pressure', which is forcing the DoD to destroy their .223 cases, which had been sold to the civilian market...

PAULREVERE
June 5, 2009, 05:54 AM
Plenty "o guns, now you need plenty "o ammo:D

MikePaiN
June 5, 2009, 06:11 AM
Wow sonogy....Lots of guns for trouble :scrutiny:

I only keep two for SHTF times(w/ a stock of ammo for them). A Smith & Wesson M&P9 9mm as my side arm and a Kel-Tec SU-16A .223/5.56 for my long gun.

The rest of my firearms are .22, these are what I shoot 95% of the time when I go to the range.

gego
June 5, 2009, 07:11 AM
The revolver on the bottom right is probably an old Smith & Wesson Military & Police hand ejector model.

You can learn more about it from the patent dates engraved on the barrel and the serial number engraved on the bottom of the butt strap, plus there may be some markings on the back of the butt strap that some Smith & Wesson collectors could tell you about.

What is the caliber? What is the most recent patent date you can find on the barrel? Don't use anything but standard loads on these old revolvers as they were not designed for anything more powerful. I am guessing this one dates back to the early 1900's.

peyton
June 5, 2009, 07:42 AM
It looks like you have a s&w model 66 4 inch and a old s&w maybe in 32 or 38. Look on the inside where the cylinder swings out. The front part that holds the cylinder is call a crane. On the frame that the crane covers is where the model is stamped. On the old black one, tell us was cartridge it uses. That will be stamped on one side of the barrel. Post here and we can help identification. Hold on to all of them. Great inheritance!!

peyton
June 5, 2009, 07:46 AM
Take some more pictures on the long guns and have more lights on, the shadow to the rear of the pool table makes identification difficult.

kanook
June 5, 2009, 08:29 AM
the one that is all rusted is a Springfield 1873 trapdoor, 45/70. clean that one up and get some trapdoor loads for it.

TX1911fan
June 5, 2009, 08:49 AM
Keep your AR simple. That's all I have to say. I "upgraded" my AR and now I don't like it because it is too heavy. Keep it light and simple. You don't need all that crap on it anyway. I have it all and it stinks.

Marlin 45 carbine
June 5, 2009, 10:18 AM
you're pretty well covered for shtf now 'network' with like-minded people.

Matrix187
June 5, 2009, 01:26 PM
I agree about having too much crap on an AR, but a good red dot and BUIS, and maybe a light is all I think one might need.

trstafford
June 6, 2009, 02:42 AM
What you need is a friend that appreciates nice guns. Are you near Kansas City? I am available for the summer as my wife and kids visit Grandma in NC for the summer.

monkeykevin
June 6, 2009, 03:16 AM
So much toys but so little ammo >_<

Rollis R. Karvellis
June 6, 2009, 10:41 AM
You can have to many gun's, but you can never have to many bullet's. Buy more ammo, then make more ammo, then when you have enough, GET MORE.

gondorian
June 6, 2009, 10:51 AM
Buy more ammo, then make more ammo, then when you have enough, GET MORE.

LOL :) :evil::D

TeamRush
June 6, 2009, 02:02 PM
That's more of an 'Accumulation' than a 'Collection'....

As hunting goes, you have all the major 'Food Groups' covered, plus one of my favorite rifles, the Ruger M-44...

For a 'Survival' or 'SHTF' group, rates fairly 'Poor'...
In a Survival collection,
You are looking for ammo and parts interchangeability so you don't have to stockpile spare parts or ammo for 14 different calibers...
One broken small part, and the rifle is a fence post or prybar if you don't stockpile spare parts for all,
"Murphy's Law" will strike 5 minutes after the spare parts supply dries up and you are STUCK!
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Most guys stick with the AK or AR formats,
But equally viable & reliable are G-3 or FN/FAL formats.
Something like this,

http://www.civilianjeep.info/Firearms/AR-15Formats01.gif

The interchangeability for this set of AR-15 rifles is about 95%...
And this set covers calibers from .22LR to 7.62x39mm all in the AR-15 format.

The interchangeability for the AR-10 to AR-15 rifles is about 80% so you potentially could have .308 Win to .300 Short mag Calibers for long range shooting, and still have 80% of the small parts interchange with the AR-15's above.
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Even bolt guns you will rely on should have spare parts,
In this case, you will find a replacment for every screw, every pin and even a new firing pin/spring/cocking piece for this bolt rifle.

http://www.civilianjeep.info/Firearms/308Rifle01.gif

Just like the military kits provide for, Torque Wrench for action and optics mounts, spare parts, (Every pin, screw, small part that can get lost)
Along with a set of match grade 'Iron' sights in case both the day and night optics are disabled...

Along with extra firing pin, spring, cocking piece assembled and ready to switch for broken parts to keep the rifle 'Combat Effective'...

[b]THINK!...
Think 'Combat Effective', not quantity of this or that!
Much cheaper and easier to learn ONE weapon inside and out than to accumulate a number of firearms and try to keep straight if they work, what quirks each has, do you have enough ammo for each, what are the ballistics tables for each.... Ect.
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As for the second picture,
Starting RIGHT of the shotguns in the first picture,

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=99425&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1244170998

Remington 'Nylon 66' .22LR,
Ruger 10/22 .22LR,
1903 Springfield in 'Sporter' stock, .30-06 from factory,
Marlin-Glenfield Model 60, .22LR,
Percussion Cap/Black Powder rifle or possibly shot gun,
Flint Lock rifle, looks like a pretty good copy of a Kentucky Long rifle.
Breech Loading 'Trap Door' rifle,
Single Shot 10 or 12 Gauge shot gun.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
June 6, 2009, 02:16 PM
Holy crap, son, you're loaded for bear...AND Al Quaida! :p

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