Ruger AR15 available yet?


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stubbicatt
June 7, 2009, 10:44 AM
Any news when this rifle is supposed to be available for purchase?

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Lone_Gunman
June 7, 2009, 12:45 PM
I don't think they are out yet... but I am looking forward to getting one when they hit the market. I think the street price is going to be very attractive considering it is a gas piston AR with a lot of upgrades, and backed up by a company with excellent customer service.

stubbicatt
June 7, 2009, 01:15 PM
Well, I am excited to get one of these Ruger rifles. I've never owned a Ruger product that wasn't extremely rugged, durable, and solid. I expect no less here.

I guess Impact is taking orders for them.

flyboy1788
June 7, 2009, 01:46 PM
when you guys get them, make sure to give a range report and post pics.

P.B.Walsh
June 7, 2009, 01:51 PM
How would they be any better than LWRC ($2,500), or POF ($1,500-$2,500)?

possum
June 7, 2009, 02:51 PM
i don't plan on getting one but i can't wait to hear the range reports, and see the pics.

Lone_Gunman
June 7, 2009, 02:54 PM
How would they be any better than LWRC ($2,500), or POF ($1,500-$2,500)?


They are going to be a lot less expensive for one thing

possum
June 7, 2009, 02:58 PM
i just hope they don't have issues like the other stuff ruger has came out with recently. that will be interesting to see. i want to see one ran through a training course.

P.B.Walsh
June 7, 2009, 03:07 PM
Wonder if the acuaccy will be like any other AR.

Horsemany
June 7, 2009, 03:12 PM
I wonder if the accuracy will be like any other RUGER???? Hope not.

highlander 5
June 7, 2009, 03:15 PM
Go to Gunblast.com they did a review of the Ruger AR a couple of weeks ago.

Reid73
June 7, 2009, 03:17 PM
i don't plan on getting one but i can't wait to hear the range reports, and see the pics.Same for me ... except that I can wait. :rolleyes:

finfanatic
June 7, 2009, 03:20 PM
Here is the link:

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdResults?function=famid&famid=66&variation=SR-556%E2%84%A2&bct=Yes&type=Rifle

MSRP is $1995

I wonder what you can buy one for at a LGS? $1600

The LCP and the LCR are both still above MSRP at gunshows. Although I did find a LCR the other day for $450 at a LGS.

Eightball
June 7, 2009, 03:20 PM
I wonder if the barrel's will be "typical ruger", or if the receiver will still be investment-cast. If the receiver's worth anything, I might try to obtain a stripped receiver, just for laughs.

yongxingfreesty
June 7, 2009, 03:26 PM
lol, rather have a colt/lmt/noveske for that price

Lone_Gunman
June 7, 2009, 04:05 PM
lol, rather have a colt/lmt/noveske for that price


You are lumping unrelated things into one category. The brands you listed are not piston operated AR's.

So if you want a piston operated AR, and buy the Colt/LMT/Noveske, you are not buying the right gun.

Ruger is seeking a certain niche in the AR market... that for a gas piston operated AR. I don't think they are really trying to compete with the direct impingement guns.

BK
June 7, 2009, 05:20 PM
Ruger AR15??

News to me. Good news.

lipadj46
June 7, 2009, 05:29 PM
I wonder if the barrel's will be "typical ruger", or if the receiver will still be investment-cast. If the receiver's worth anything, I might try to obtain a stripped receiver, just for laughs.

Nobody worth a salt casts AR15 lower or upper receivers anymore. I doubt you will be able to buy a stripped ruger lower or upper. Also like most others Ruger is not forging these receivers in house yet.

stubbicatt
June 7, 2009, 06:14 PM
Ruger products are rather staid and pedestrian, but they are traditionally very rugged, if not a bit heavy for caliber. I have no issues with them, and they shoot as good as I can shoot, or better, so accuracy has always been just fine for me.

As far as the recent recalls and such, in the last 10 years I cannot remember an American firearm I have purchased, other than Smith and Wesson revolvers, that didn't have to go back to the factory for some reason. I have just come to accept this as an inevitability. Glocks, CZ's, HK's, all these just work right right out of the box. I am convinced that if it says Made in America, it will be going back at some point early on in my ownership experience.

So I anticipate sending the Ruger back too. It seems to be part of the deal these days. I just budget for it, keep the original shipping carton, and not worry.

Initially it really bothered me, but not so anymore. I figure if everyone did the send back routine, eventually QC would improve at the American factories.

Anyways, I am excited for this release, and anticipate selling off another 223 rifle that I rarely use for this one.

BK
June 7, 2009, 06:19 PM
How long had that gun been in the works?

gvnwst
June 7, 2009, 06:25 PM
You are lumping unrelated things into one category. The brands you listed are not piston operated AR's.

So if you want a piston operated AR, and buy the Colt/LMT/Noveske, you are not buying the right gun.

Ruger is seeking a certain niche in the AR market... that for a gas piston operated AR. I don't think they are really trying to compete with the direct impingement guns.

uhh...Okay, try "I would rather have a LMT/POF/LWRC for that price." LMT makes piston rifles, and good ones. IIRC, colt made a GP rifle too, anyone know if they plan on selling it to the public?

capt obvious
June 7, 2009, 08:48 PM
How would they be any better than LWRC

cost? Who knows about performance, but Ruger certainly wins with the pricing.

Mags
June 7, 2009, 09:04 PM
cost? Who knows about performance, but Ruger certainly wins with the pricing
Are you serious? For 1995 you can get a LMT or Sig 556!

Nugilum
June 7, 2009, 09:08 PM
Lets see, they announced it roughly a month ago, right?

So we still have 23 months to go before they hit the stores... ;)

BK
June 7, 2009, 09:19 PM
So we still have 23 months to go before they hit the stores...

That puts the recall right about a year from now.:neener:

RP88
June 7, 2009, 09:25 PM
still also want to hear about its ruggedness. I do not plan on buying one; my DI AR from CMMG is perfect for me. But, I really want to see how Ruger enters the market here - a market that they never really wanted and helped destroy up until recently.

J&J
June 7, 2009, 09:32 PM
My LGS is taking orders. Ruger has allowed him to order 3, which sounds about right for his size operation. I was eager to purchase, but find myself debating after this weekends gunshow, as I see other brands of AR's coming downin price compared to a few months ago... I love Ruger reliability, but I just cannot make up my mind on this one.

BK
June 7, 2009, 09:36 PM
I'd buy one from a disgruntled purchaser, but only at an unavoidable deal.

Titan6
June 7, 2009, 09:37 PM
$1995? :D

I don't know what they are putting in their coffee up there but my gun club has Bushmaster A4s for less than a $1000. I can get flat tops for less than $1000 as well.

Lone_Gunman
June 7, 2009, 09:37 PM
$1995?

I don't know what they are putting in their coffee up there but my gun club has Bushmaster A4s for less than a $1000. I can get flat tops for less than $1000 as well.


I think that your reaction is typical for people who develop an opinion before looking at the rifle. $1995 is MSRP, and street price will be more like $1500 when it stabilizes. Gas piston ARs normally cost about $400 more than their direct impingement counterparts. Plus, this rifle will have full picatinny rails and come standard with folding sights.

But, don't let me change your mind. I intend to buy one, and I see no reason to make the waiting list one person longer by convincing you...

Titan6
June 7, 2009, 09:44 PM
I think that your reaction is typical for people who develop an opinion before looking at the rifle. $1995 is MSRP, and street price will be more like $1500 when it stabilizes. Gas piston ARs normally cost about $400 more than their direct impingement counterparts. Plus, this rifle will have full picatinny rails and come standard with folding sights.

The flat top I am talking about comes with rails and standard folding sights. Without direct impingement? Do I care? I have been shooting ARs for more than 20 years with direct impingement and have no worries. If the weapon is really "that" superior I might look at it but honestly what good will it do me when I have another that will get the job done just as well for $500 less?

BK
June 7, 2009, 09:46 PM
If the street price is $1,500 I know that I'll never own one. Well, never say never. If it has POF type reviews, I'm in. I just don't anticipate that happening.

SHvar
June 7, 2009, 11:24 PM
If you look at complete rifle prices for gas piston rifles, you will see that they are all close, very close. The LMT is $1995, the POF ranges from $1575-$1995, Bushmasters rifle (a POF without the fluted cold hammer forged barrel and without nickel coated recivers, etc) is $1850. Im not positive on LWRC prices.

Lone_Gunman
June 7, 2009, 11:24 PM
The flat top I am talking about comes with rails and standard folding sights. Without direct impingement? Do I care? I have been shooting ARs for more than 20 years with direct impingement and have no worries.

If you don't care about having the gas piston that is fine, but it still costs more to put that feature on a gun. I also have been shooting ARs for twenty years with direct impingement and have no worries about D.I. either. Nevertheless, the gas piston adds to the price of the gun.

It is unfair to compare the price of a gas piston AR to a direct impingement AR. It is also unfair to act shocked that a piston AR costs more. Of course it costs more. If you don't want a gas piston AR, don't buy it. There is no reason to spend that kind of money on a feature you don't care about.

Does the $400 piston actually solve any problem with the AR? Probably not. But that doesn't really matter.. it still costs more. I will probably buy one, but not because I think it is better than a 6920 or LMT... I just want one to play with.

SHvar
June 7, 2009, 11:41 PM
I bought my gas piston rifle because I wanted one.
I have been using the DI system on AR/M-16s for 20 years now, very reliable.
I like the idea of a cooler operating system, and cleaner. As far as price goes, you add a gas piston system to a current rifle and you get a smaller system thats not as good. Get the rifle designed with the system installed and tested.
A friend of mine wants to try a replacement gas piston system on his AR someday now.
The prices of the gas piston systems range from $300-$500 plus, the systems installed OEM are better more expensive systems that require alot more technical know how to instal them, for about the same price.

CoRoMo
June 8, 2009, 04:25 PM
This surprised the heck out of me. I was talking about Ruger and Springfield Armory getting into the AR pool a long time ago, but I never really thought Ruger would be the first one of the two to jump in.

My question is, what is the point of this gun? Are they going the way of S&W and trying to make a quality gun to contract out to LEO and/or military? Or are they in like Stag, just wanting a bit of the civi market? If the latter is their angle, the price is all wrong. Anyhow, I can't wait to hear some reviews from people who don't write in gun related magazines.

Now all Ruger needs to design is their own 1911.
I still think Springfield would/could/should manufacture an M4 of their own.

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