Sell AR15 to fund CZ550?


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wickedsprint
June 8, 2009, 05:21 AM
Here is my logic. I don't shoot the AR much, they are easy to sell right now. Plus I don't feel like shelling out the bucks for the nice optic it deserves.

I have always wanted a CZ550 in .375 H&H, and with them now being offered with a Kevlar stock, well that might be the final draw for me;). I know it's not the most practical cartridge out there due to price and weight...but I can't get the CZ550 combo out of my head haha.

The AR15 for my uses is not really practical either.

I think the CZ would be a fantastic complement to my scoped .243.

A .375 H&H is a little overkill for a lot of things, but then again so is my AR15 when you get right down to it.

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stubbicatt
June 8, 2009, 07:45 AM
I cannot say for sure, but there is little about the AR15 that attracts me. It is utilitarian, plastic and metal. The CZ (at least with the wood stock) has a warm attraction of typically nicely grained wood and deeply blued steel. They just feel good in your hands.

If you are like me, your uses for rifles are probably few, but your curiosity and sense of satisfaction from a quality firearm is great.

I would probably choose less of a cannon though. Like the 6.5x55 or similar, as my recoil sensitivity would not appreciate the 375 H&H.

Moose458
June 8, 2009, 11:31 AM
For me, this would be simple. Sell the AR which you don't really care for (not everybody slobbers all over themselves over an AR15), and buy the CZ in .375, since that is the one that gets your juices flowing. It is a big caliber, but not overly so. As long as the recoil doesn't bother you, I say go for it. As you mentioned, this is a great time to sell the AR.

rangerruck
June 8, 2009, 11:38 AM
I think I agree; with ar's being over priced, they will come down another 100 0r 200 bucks over the next year. Before Obama was the Dem nominee, 3 of the big gun dealers here in houston , were selling their a4 entry carbines with pencil bbls, and flattops, for 690. I don't know if they will go that low again, but for sure they will get down to 800.
So sell yours now, get the cz, which will not go down later, but go up due to it's being a classic, not a volume made rifle. Then if you have to , a year from now, go get another ar, when they will be cheaper anyway.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
June 8, 2009, 02:24 PM
they are easy to sell right now

You've missed that by 2-5 weeks, depending on where you live. So as much as I love 550s, if I were you, I'd hang onto to the "EBR" and sell it WHEN this admin and Congress trot out another HDR ban with serious chance of passage (after the next major MPS). The value will be greater than it is now. Right now there is a post-frenzy glut and saturation, at least around here, leading to low prices. Do be like my buddy with his stock picks - he likes to buy high, and sell low, it would seem.

TeamRush
June 8, 2009, 02:28 PM
The CZ 550 is a FINE RIFLE and I wish I could afford one right now... Little short on cash since I just went on another stupid buying spree!

I would say you won't get much better prices for your AR style rifles right now, and I don't see any reason why not to 'Trade Up' to a fine rifle if that is what you want!

wickedsprint
June 10, 2009, 04:42 AM
Yeah, can't really explain it. Ever since reading about the CZs and their BRNO heritage I've found myself lusting after one. I only paid around $800 ish for the AR I have, which is a RRA HBAR 16" so I should be able to move it fast, not looking to gouge anyone.

JDGray
June 10, 2009, 08:07 AM
I'd do it! I've traded guns off that I really like, or don't shoot, and always enjoy the replacement more:) If you can't afford what you really wan't, us poor folks must trade, and sell stuff:D

MikePaiN
June 10, 2009, 08:32 AM
I just did a "clean out" of my safe and sold off everything I wasn't shooting much or bought on a whim etc..incl my Stag AR. I purchased two guns I "really wanted and still have a $grand$ left over :D
Now I have a nice trim collection of guns I love and actually shoot..and enjoy.

I say DO IT ....

SwampWolf
June 11, 2009, 03:00 AM
I say DON'T DO IT! The worst "deals" I've made on firearm transactions are when I've rationalized to myself countless reasons to sell a gun just so I'd have the money to buy the latest gleam in my eye. Maybe it's not the case with you but I find myself lying to myself in order to justify a new gun in my life. It doesn't take long for buyer's remorse to ensue...:(

jackdanson
June 11, 2009, 12:54 PM
I say DON'T DO IT! The worst "deals" I've made on firearm transactions is when I've rationalized to myself countless reasons to sell a gun just so I'd have the money to buy the latest gleam in my eye. Maybe it's not the case with you but I find myself lying to myself in order to justify a new gun in my life. It doesn't take long for buyer's remorse to ensue...

Same here, I used to buy and sell all the time... now I just buy, I would always end up regretting selling off things.

I say wait and save, then you'll have both. An AR is a "neccessary" for most gun collectors.

Reid73
June 11, 2009, 01:20 PM
Personally, I agree with you that a CZ 550 or similar bolt action in a classic calibre like the .375 H&H is much more appealling than a plain-jane AR. Others would no doubt disagree, which is fine. Ultimately you need to make your own decision: and it sounds like you already have.

An AR is not a necessity for a gun collector, unless he or she specializes in modern infantry rifles. In any case, it doesn't sound like you are in the process of building a representative collection; you just want a few guns that for whatever reason appeal to you.

I agree with SwampWolf that it is an expensive hobby to be constantly turning over one's personal inventory of firearms. If the desired gun is a new idea, probably best to mull it over for at least a few weeks and ensure that it is not merely a passing whim. But if you "have always wanted a CZ550 in 375 H&H", that might be different.

I wouldn't worry too much about selling the AR: there are plenty around, they are the most fungible firearms going, and you can always buy another one if you later change your mind.

I also wouldn't worry too much about having missed the absolute high point in prices by 2-5 weeks (assuming that is accurate). Hanging on for a potential higher price some unknown time down the road might be fine if you were simply trying to maximize the return on your $800 investment. But your post suggests that you need to sell the AR in order to purchase the 550 ... and life is short. Might as well arrange your affairs to get what you really want.

usmc1371
June 11, 2009, 02:30 PM
When I first read this post I thought to my self.. I have a cz 550 375 that I won, and have no money invested in that I don't really need. Maybe I could trade it. But I have an ar. And the 375 is fun as hell to shoot (do not shoot it across your hood my jeep windshield is destroyed from one shot) Now that i thinki about you should keep your ar and save up for a 375. its better to have both.

wickedsprint
June 11, 2009, 03:48 PM
It's not a funds issue. I have a desire to somewhat consolidate my firearms. Maybe I should have done two separate threads of "Should I sell my AR" and "Should I get a CZ550" haha.

sumpnz
June 11, 2009, 04:33 PM
Get the 550. If you have to sell the AR to afford the 550, or you just don't really think you like having and shooting AR's, then go ahead and sell it. Otherwise, keep it and have both.

I've got 2 550's and wouldn't trade for much of anything. Planning to get 453 too. Great rifles.

blendingnoise
June 11, 2009, 05:23 PM
I would probably choose less of a cannon though. Like the 6.5x55 or similar, as my recoil sensitivity would not appreciate the 375 H&H.
listen to this poster.

This is not mine personally but man is it a blast to shoot and if you like good looking rifles then the FS is the one to go for. Look at it. The iron sights are really nice and work fine out to 100yds (longest I have shot it) It also has a set trigger which is very very appreciated for bench work.
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Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
June 11, 2009, 05:27 PM
Blendingnoise, is it just me, or does that FS looks like it's NOT the standard 20" bbl'ed gun? To me that looks 22" or longer.... ??

Reid73
June 11, 2009, 05:36 PM
I would probably choose less of a cannon though. Like the 6.5x55 or similar, as my recoil sensitivity would not appreciate the 375 H&H.6.5x55 is a fine calibre but he already has a .243, which pretty much covers the same ground. Apparently he wants a .375 for 'romantic' reasons rather than practical.

The loading table for my .375 H&H Lee Loader sums it up well. I will try to remember to dig it out and post a relevant extract.

wickedsprint
June 11, 2009, 05:41 PM
Reid I think you hit the nail on the head.

I've run some threads discussing downsizing, but the fact is I simply want the big CZ. I feel less bad about adding another rifle if I offload one, and the AR makes the most sense for me to offload.

Practicality is up for debate. I can hunt big game with it, but other than that the recoil, ammo price and weight rule out a good chunk of its limited practicality.

It's as much a novelty as the AR, but it opens up some hunting that the AR and .243 are either not legal or optimum for.

Blendingnoise, that's a fine looking rifle.

Reid73
June 11, 2009, 05:58 PM
the recoil, ammo price and weight rule out a good chunk of its limited practicalityActually it's not all that bad.

The recoil will be a very large step up from your .243, but most people can adapt. Use a high quality recoil pad, natch. It will help to start out with 270 grain bullets rather than 300. Speer makes its Hot-Cor® in 235 grains, which I would think would be even better if you can find them.

The price of ammunition is certainly higher than something in the .308 or .30/06 class, but if you reload it is not too bad. Even if you don't, fact is you won't be shooting as much at a session as you would with your .243.

The 550 is known for being one of the heavier .375s, but if that is a significant concern you can go lighter in other brands. E.g., my old peep-sighted Sako Finnbear weighs 8 pounds unloaded (not knocking the 550, just saying that you have options). Of course, there are pros and cons to everything and you may want a heavier rifle if you are concerned about the recoil (although correct fit is at least equally important as weight).

wickedsprint
June 11, 2009, 06:08 PM
I'm not worried about the recoil, like an idiot I sold a nice .375 H&H I owned previously. :(

You're right, its recoil is not that stout. It is stout enough for me to not enjoy a long session at the range or for introducing new shooters to rifle shooting fundamentals. haha.

stubbicatt
June 11, 2009, 11:14 PM
About that...

When I was a newbie, a "friend" introduced me to bolt actioned rifles with his 375 H&H. I still have the scar on my eyebrow where I got

scoped.:cuss:

He's dead now.

Gunther
June 11, 2009, 11:19 PM
NO, with whats going on in the world/country right now hold onto your AR, you can always get a 375, sometimes relatively cheap due to buyers remorse over recoil and price of ammo. Just stay put for the short term. My 2 cents!

Reid73
June 12, 2009, 12:02 AM
The loading table for my .375 H&H Lee Loader sums it up well. I will try to remember to dig it out and post a relevant extract.Okay, I found it:

"The 375 H&H Magnum was introduced in 1912 by the famous gunsmiths Holland & Holland of London. This was the first use of the belted magnum cartridge. It certainly is powerful enough for any game on earth. Many more 375 H&H guns are sold annually than there are African hunters. Perhaps you will never hunt cape buffalo, rhino or elephant in Africa and only a gun enthusiast will understand why you own one – it’s hopeless to try to explain to a non-shooter."[emphasis added]

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