I can't find the right nightstand gun!


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azhunter122
June 9, 2009, 07:15 PM
After a few months of keeping a mouse gun by my bed I got a new safe and have been keeping my Glock 22 in it. Here are my problems

The Glock 22's grip sucks!
Kimber Commander 1911 mag capacity sucks!
Mouse guns suck in general!
Revolvers have the same problem as the 1911 does.
Shotguns aren't really an option and I already have one in the closet.

The gun is to be used in the car and the nighstand plus as a holster gun for target shooting and hunting, and I have gone through all of my guns, I can't find one of them that is perfect for this. I also debate the .40 vs the .45 and have been doing some research on different brands but I don't know. What's your setup and what would you like for these tasks?

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rellascout
June 9, 2009, 07:18 PM
FNP 45 Can be had for less than $600 OTD

http://www.fnhusa.com/support/images/dynamic/m/FNM0062mb.png

For operators who prefer the proven stopping power of the legendary 45 ACP, the FNP-45 is your handgun. Highly ergonomic, the FNP-45’s magazine release, decocking/manual safety levers and slide stop levers are all fully ambidextrous. The FNP-45 features an external hammer, 4.5" hammer-forged stainless steel barrel, stainless steel slide, full-length guide rod, C-More Systems™ fixed three-dot combat sights and a checkered polymer frame with interchangeable backstraps and an integrated accessory rail. Every FNP-45 comes standard with three magazines, a locking device and a lockable fitted hard case. FNP-45 USG high-capacity models come standard with one 15-round and two 14-round magazines.

Lou McGopher
June 9, 2009, 08:56 PM
The Glock 22's grip sucks!
Interchangeable backstraps, interchangeable mag release buttons, choice of standard and low-profile slide release lever.

Kimber Commander 1911 mag capacity sucks!
9mm x17, .40 x14, .45 x10

Mouse guns suck in general!
Comes in 9mm, .40, .45. Shape makes concealed drawing/holstering easier.

Four models available:
Type C: Single-action-only. Spurless hammer. No de-cocker. No safety.
Type D: Double-action-only. Spurless hammer. No de-cocker. No safety.
Type F: Single and double-action. De-cocker. Manual safety.
Type G: Single and double-action. De-cocker. No manual safety.

Available for under $600.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2njablu.jpg

bestseller92
June 9, 2009, 10:46 PM
My own nightstand gun is (and has been for over 25 years) a good quality .357 Magnum revolver, loaded with 125 grain Magnum JHPs.

This is accompanied by an 8 shot 12 gauge Mossberg 500 pump action shotgun.

Rockwell1
June 9, 2009, 10:50 PM
CZ 75 B caliber of your choice ( as long as you choose 9mm or .40S&W)
If it has to be a .45ACP CZ97B ( you'd need a truss for CCW though)

Tiomoid
June 9, 2009, 11:03 PM
My own nightstand gun is (and has been for over 25 years) a good quality .357 Magnum revolver, loaded with 125 grain Magnum JHPs.

This is accompanied by an 8 shot 12 gauge Mossberg 500 pump action shotgun.
Sounds a lot like my own...

INSULATION TIM
June 9, 2009, 11:05 PM
I've switched to a Taurus 357 mag revolver chamber with .38 special Hydroshocks from Federal.

The reliability of a revolver and the non-over penetration of the .38 hollow point.

bestseller92
June 9, 2009, 11:07 PM
I believe from what I've read that the 125 grain .357 JHP has an excellent record for not overpenetrating.

AKElroy
June 9, 2009, 11:09 PM
Your perfect solution is the Springfield XDm .40. I have a Streamlight / Laser combo on mine, and sleep well at night with 17 Rnds on board; extra mag handy. With 3 different grip inserts, you will be able to tune it to your hand. The 1300 defender next to it also helps me sleep on my realy paranoid nights.

Mike J
June 9, 2009, 11:10 PM
azhunter-have you ever shot an XD. Many who don't like the grip angle of Glocks seem to like the XD.

AKElroy
June 9, 2009, 11:12 PM
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Or, you can click on your name next to "Welcome" top right, go to "Statistics", and find whatever post you have written. Off topic, I know, but it looks like you could use the help.

GoodKat
June 9, 2009, 11:26 PM
Practically any full size gun in 9, 40, or 45 made by glock, springfield, HK, CZ, Sig, FN, or S&W will do, it's all up to preference. If I had to pick for you, by caliber it*would be:

9mm- CZ Sp-01 Phantom
.40- Springfield XD(M)
.45- H&K USP

Eightball
June 10, 2009, 12:26 AM
Nightstand gun right now is my j-frame S&W, because it comes out of the pocket and goes on the nightstand. However, ususally my full size 1911 resides there (it's getting some work done ATM)--if you think the mag capacity sucks, get some Wilson 10 rounders. If you can't solve your problem with 11 rounds of .45ACP and you're still using your pistol, you're doing something terribly wrong.

CDW4ME
June 10, 2009, 12:49 AM
Springfield XD 45 compact. 10 rounds of 45 with the flush magazine, and 13 rounds in the extended. Has a rail to mount a light. I'm getting night sights installed.

noob_shooter
June 10, 2009, 02:13 AM
XDm or XD's. Grip is superb compared to my G27

Isher
June 10, 2009, 02:46 AM
Grasshopper -

.....First you must pick the right nightstand.......


isher

Ben86
June 10, 2009, 03:07 AM
Do you have an oddly shaped nightstand? :)

As of now my nightstand gun is my Glock 17. Although I would like to sell it and replace it with the S&W M&P9 for a number of frivalous reasons.

To get to the point I choose to have a full size 9mm as my home defense handgun because I need a caliber that both me and my wife can shoot well. The 9mm cartridge is a breeze to shoot yet still has good stopping power. The full size handgun offers larger capacity, better ballistics, and controllabliity compared to a mouse gun. Mouse guns have there place, but its not for home defense.

Check out an M&P9, 40 or 45 I doubt you will be dissapointed.

Dr.Rob
June 10, 2009, 03:34 AM
Get a night stand to fit an Uzi. Problem solved! ;)

Seriously, use the pistol you shoot the MOST and shoot the BEST. Capacity is the least of your worries. Sell the Glock if it doesn't fit you, shop around for a better hi-cap 40 or 45, let the 1911 with an 8 round mag fill in until you get comfy with the new hi-cap.

LancerMW
June 10, 2009, 03:41 AM
geta Sig 226 in 40S&W 12 rounds and its a Sig

memphisjim
June 10, 2009, 03:43 AM
glock 20

dirty dave
June 10, 2009, 03:49 AM
To bad you cant have this one with out a lot of fuss

heavyshooter
June 10, 2009, 03:59 AM
Kimber Commander 1911 mag capacity sucks!

Where do you live, Afghanistan? How many rounds do you need? If you shoot the 1911 well (and who doesn't) then that is what I would go with. The capacity is not an issue for at least three reasons.

1) Most HD situations do not require 8 rounds.
2) You can have a gaggle of loaded mags in the drawer right next to the gun, just in case.
3) You should only be using a hang gun to fight you way to your long gun.

By the time a fight gets so bad that I have exhausted 8+1 rounds I will have a long gun in my hand. The same applies to a revolver. I think six rounds should be enough but if not, then stock up on spead loaders. Then come up with a strategic plan that allows you to get to a Mossberg 590 or Remington 870. Because if I find myself in a 17 round shootout, I am not using a night stand gun. just my .02

cottonmouth
June 10, 2009, 05:10 AM
"Where do you live, Afghanistan?" LOL! I do, for a few more months anyway. I keep an M9 in a Fobus holster nailed onto a 2x4 next to my bed and a M4 Bushmaster about a foot away from the bed. Back home it's a Glock 22 with an M6 light and Hinnie sights. I admit I am not the biggest Glock fan but I had 12 high cap magazines and felt like I needed the pistol to go with them. I also added a LW barrel to shoot lead.

J.B.

possom813
June 10, 2009, 05:24 AM
If I hadn't already traded all my guns for GM stock, I'd keep a Ruger P89 on the nightstand loaded with 17 115gr corbon's:D

WingRider
June 10, 2009, 05:36 AM
Just an aside;) How do like your FNP. I'm picking up mine in 40 tomorrow:D Ever have any problems? I just fell in love with the feel of the trigger(it is SAO).

ArmedBear
June 10, 2009, 10:57 AM
Nightstand gun?

I like the XD45 Service. It's got a rather long grip for carrying, but it holds 14 rounds. It's not likely to rust, and it has tactile/visible LCI and cocking indicator, so you can double-check the gun if you're not sure what condition you left it in. Grip safety prevents ADs but doesn't require conscious operation. The grip safety adds another feature most people don't know about: it locks the slide at about 1/2" back, so you can check the chamber without ejecting a round or taking the gun out of battery. With the heavy .45+P spring the gun has, this is really a good feature.

While it's a tad bulky for constant carry, if it's going to sit in a drawer a lot, it's perfect.

Rittmeister
June 10, 2009, 03:59 PM
I like the CZ75. I use a 9mm SP01, 18 rounds in the mag and a light rail for my Insight M3. I feel it's a good choice loaded with 147gr JHP rounds.

The same pistol can be had in .40.

Were I to switch away from the CZ, it would be to an FNP or railed 1911.

ROBBY.1911
June 10, 2009, 04:20 PM
glock 30 with glock 21 mag equals 13+1. if he's still coming, you are sorry shot or you picked the wrong burglar!

The Wiry Irishman
June 10, 2009, 04:34 PM
I'm seriously considering upgrading my nightstand gun to one of these, as I've found I just can't love the plastic gun that's currently doing that job, and I'd like a better trigger and more similarity to my carry gun:

http://www.stiguns.com/guns/Tactical/images/Tactical5web_800w.jpg

They sell 14+1 .45, 22+1 .40 or 26+1 9mm mags for it if high capacity is your thing.

ETA: STI has another kind of neat offering, a 6" full-railed 10mm, and you can get 22 round mags for it.

http://www.stiguns.com/guns/Perfect10/images/Perfect10-09_Main.jpg

huntsman
June 10, 2009, 04:50 PM
I can't find the right nightstand gun!

I've never had to shoot a nightstand so I'm not sure which gun would work best.

Gryffydd
June 10, 2009, 05:12 PM
For me, a night stand gun should have a light on it.
If I could have any gun on my night stand it'd be this:
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/images/firearms/170269a_lrg.jpg
Sans the red dot though.

CoRoMo
June 10, 2009, 05:19 PM
Grip problem solved.
Capacity problem solved annihilated.

http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.topgunsupply.com/images/D/IMGP1554.JPG&usg=AFQjCNHjRtH-lBnPPUZu-xrEDzYCoR32lg

Problem solved.

I'm looking to get an XDm 9 one day, but not for the nightstand.
My current nightstand pistol is the XD45, full friggin' size.

franconialocal
June 10, 2009, 05:41 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=88993&d=1228890641

maroast
June 10, 2009, 05:44 PM
next we'll talk about motorcycle oil

What's better for my motorcycle, full synthetic or dino?



I keep a S&W .357 Mag loaded with 125 grain JHP and a 500 lumen Surefire M6 Guardian light on the nightstand about 6 inches from me...

Also next to the bed is a Mossberg 500 loaded with 8 rounds of 00 buck.


If things start getting real icky, the Saiga-12 with 20 round drum and the AR-15 aren't too far away.... I think I may have watched a bit too many 80's action movies while growing up....

GoodKat
June 10, 2009, 07:44 PM
Springfield EMP
For a nightstand gun?! Why?

The OP already complained about a single stack's capacity.

federalfarmer
June 10, 2009, 07:55 PM
I agree with Isher.....need a new nightstand! :D
Full size 1911 with tacicool do-dads, done.

WRGADog
June 10, 2009, 10:03 PM
XD45c, 13 rounds 230 grain JHP, Tru Glo TFOs, and insight light (I believe XT1 but too lazy tonight to get up and look) with Stobe, momentary on, constant on modes.

BillH
June 10, 2009, 10:21 PM
How about an HK USP 40 S&W with a Pillow Holster from www.pillowholster.com. It can be flipped for either left or right handed. It's padded so it's not easily felt.

novalty
June 11, 2009, 10:07 AM
I would suggest a S&W 4006, 4003, 4046, 4043, 410 or 411. They are in the 40 S&W caliber, double stack good ergonomics, at least for me. The all stainless frame and slide of the 4006 and 4046 help soak up recoil, and best of all Crimson Trace Grips are available for them.

Sam@Wheelguns
February 27, 2010, 09:24 PM
Oh my. I don't know about a forty-four magnum, but I sure love a shotgun.

KevinR
February 27, 2010, 10:22 PM
Somebody needs to get rid of that picture

I like a pistol / auto loader for my nightstand gun, revolvers are tooo darn loud for in the house. I dont want to hurt my family while trying to protect them.

MikePGS
February 27, 2010, 10:57 PM
If you do go with the 4043 summit has them for 269.

Shadow 7D
February 27, 2010, 11:54 PM
double barrel shotty,

As you see, anything thing can fulfill this duty, question is how large is your night stand?
Really just find a decent gun that is reliable and you can shoot well.

That is in the end what you need, all the brands and other advice, nice, but you need to go to the store, and go to the range and spend the time to find what you are comfortable with.

dfjaws
February 28, 2010, 12:19 AM
I love my p30. It's expensive though. So far I have around a 1000 rounds through it with zero stoppages of any kind. They are making a version in .40 now as well.

9mm
http://shop.oragie.com/images/HK_P30_gas_signal.jpg

Skillet
February 28, 2010, 12:35 AM
you don't need a huge capacity for a nightstand gun. most home invasion incidences where the homeowner is armed end with only about two shots being fired (from the homeowner) in total at most in most circumstances. I keep a CZ 75B and next to it is a 1911. 8 capacity on the 1911, 16 on the CZ.

JLaScala
February 28, 2010, 01:14 AM
+1 for XD45 13rnds of stopping power, and she feels real nice with a hogue grip.

c919
February 28, 2010, 01:18 AM
+1 on the PX4, that's my bedside piece. Mine's a .40 "f" model.

ShelbyV8
February 28, 2010, 01:20 AM
EAA Witness P 10mm with a M6 laser/light, 16 rounds of ammo. I have one in the house and one in my truck. My expensive guns are in the safe.

Sapper771
February 28, 2010, 02:08 AM
My nightstand gun is a Glock 17/21 with a TLR-1 light.


So no Glocks , 1911s, mouse guns, or revolvers. From the way you pair up "40 vs 45" I take it that 9mm is out too.
You want a high capacity pistol in 45acp or 40cal with a comfortable 110 degree grip angle , that is concealable, comfortable, and accurate.
There are a lot of options out there: Sig 229 40cal, Browning Hi Power in 40cal, SA XD , XDm, and XDm 3.8 in 40cal, CZs, etc.

ForumSurfer
February 28, 2010, 02:20 AM
My kimber pro cdp stays in my nightstand beside a good flashlight, then travels with me day to day for ccw. Sometimes I keep a para p12 in my nightstand. There's a glock gen4 17 with a tlr1 in the safe that will reside in the nightstand once I become familiar enough and proficient enough that I'll trust my family's life to it. The flashlight will stay, though. The weapon light is great and all, but I feel that when investigating those bumps in the night it is best not to go pointing my boomstick around blindly. Handgun low and ready, light in the weak hand to identify what it is.

I say this because I once flashed the muzzle of a beretta 96 with a light to a group of 14-16 year olds sneaking over their dad's fence to smoke weed, which put them in my ex girlfriend's backyard. The kids were harmless, my negligence and pigheadedness was the more irresponsible action. :banghead:They never snuck over the fence again, though. Myself in my boxers and beretta and my ex's 90lb boxer were obviously a buzzkill. :eek:

johnnylaw53
February 28, 2010, 07:34 AM
The best night stand gun is the best range gun you have with most of us I would guess the weapon we shoot the most is the one we get the most use of at the range of course not counting the .22. We don't have to worry about how big it is since we don't conceal carry it. For me it's my beretta 92. I'm also with forumsurfer I don't like lights mounted on my weapon for the reason he stated also when I was a young cop I was told by the older ones to keep your light in your weak hand and hold it out to the side of you in case a bad guy want to take a shot there a good chance he will focus on the light and his rounds will land close to it.

be safe

Flint Ridge
February 28, 2010, 10:38 AM
Excellent suggestions out there already, so I will state the obvious.

You're looking for a One Night Stand Gun?

Sorry, had to do it.

jad0110
February 28, 2010, 12:42 PM
I like a pistol / auto loader for my nightstand gun, revolvers are tooo darn loud for in the house.

Take a .357 Sig autoloader and compare it to the noise of a 44 Special revolver. Guess which is louder.

Then again, it is all relative. All will cause some degree of hearing damage, so just go with what works best for you. And this is the advice I offer to the OP: don't limit yourself on the capacity front, or even on caliber. More rounds are a nice bonus, but as you've found out with your Glock, more rounds shouldn't be substituted for shootability in YOUR hands.

Good luck!

Lonestar49
February 28, 2010, 01:01 PM
Springfield EMP




For a nightstand gun?! Why?

The OP already complained about a single stack's capacity.


...

Depending on State/law mag max loads, the 9mm EMP offers 9+1, which isn't a worst case scenario or choice.

OMMV,


Ls

bdb benzino
February 28, 2010, 01:18 PM
I have an EAA EZ 40 with a weapon light for my home defense pistol. It holds 11 rounds of 40s&w and is very accurate and soft shooting. It is made by the Serbian company Zastava, which has been making quality weapons for 100 years. It is a great choice and can be found for around $400!! Good luck!

Motownfire
February 28, 2010, 02:27 PM
Glock 23 is what backs up my shot gun for home defense.

PX15
February 28, 2010, 02:56 PM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_9862.jpg

This 3rd Gen Smith 5906 w/CT Lasergrips works for me.

In the nightstand on my brides side of the matrimonial bed resides a 357mag Ruger Security Six.


jesse

NJGunOwner81
March 1, 2010, 03:49 AM
Okay, I know you said you had some issues with revolvers but you shot my first instinct down with the 1911. Personally, I keep my Kimber Stainless II - Government w/ 230 grain JHPs holstered on the side of my bed. Why? Because I am the most accurate and comfortable with my Kimber ... all though my Judge would also be a great choice for a quick response!

http://i49.tinypic.com/amp4s2.jpghttp://i45.tinypic.com/2bwqv7.jpghttp://i48.tinypic.com/2v1x7gz.jpg

My particular Judge is the magnum version so I have the ability to chamber 3" shells but I'm sure the 2 1/2" would get the job done! ;)

PICTURE 1 - My Taurus Judge - Three 410 ShotShells On Bottom and Two 45 Cold Rounds On Top.

PICTURE 2 - At Bottom You Have Three 3" 410 Double Ought Buck ShotShells And On The Top You Have Two Hornady 45 Colt 225 Grain Rounds With Hornady's Patented FTX (Flex Tip eXpand).

PICTURE 3 - My Judge Is Loaded So That The 3 410 ShotShells Will Fire First Followed Up By The Two 45 Colt Rounds.


The 3 shotshells, when used close-up like in a car or the tight space of a home would certainly stop somebody and if after 3 410 shells they still want some more then the 45 Colt will put them down.

Don't forget, in most home invasions you're not dealing with a trained soldier or a heavily armored and armed terrorist ... no, you're dealing with some D-bag who wants to steal your stuff, sell it, then go buy some weed.

Hope my post helps!!! Take Care & Be Safe!!!

Frank
NJGunOwner81

ForumSurfer
March 1, 2010, 04:15 AM
I've always wanted to fire one of those with the 410 shells just to see what it felt like and what kind of patterns I get at 5, 10 and 15 yards.

I'm taking a small group trap shooting this weekend on some family farm land, guess the judge wouldn't be too great for that? :D /end sarcasm

I keep a Kimber at my bedside, too. First two rounds are frangible and the rest are powr ball. Chances are that plain old ball ammo would get the job done all around, but what the hey...you never know.

NWCP
March 1, 2010, 05:43 AM
My nightstand pistol just happens to be an HK USP in either 9mm, or .40. I also frequently carry one, or the other.

Montanan09
March 1, 2010, 08:43 AM
I'm with many of the posters here who feel very safe with a 1911 by the bed. However, I thought I would throw out that I recently picked up a used Beretta 96 (.40) on a whim and have been very happy with it. There are 15 rnd mags available, and it came with night sights and after market finger grove/rubber grips. I think I paid around $350, so the price was right for the gun and package.
For reference, over the past 15 years or so I have had 3 Glocks, (19, 22 & 27), 2 Rugers, (P-89 & P-94), an HK USP .45 and a .357 revolver as bed side guns and I have extensively fired other Sig, Glock, Springfield and polymer frame Berettas. By comparison, I was pleasantly surprised by how well the Beretta 96 fit in my hand and how natural sight alignment and pistol stabilization is through a full trigger pull, (for me anyway). I think this may be one of the best combinations of round capacity, grip size and ammunition strength that you will find, and if the ergonomics of this older model of Beretta are a good match for your hands then you should be able to find some great deals.

Jonah71
March 1, 2010, 12:39 PM
I have my Bersa Thunder .380 Deluxe with HP+P's on one side, the S&W .38 special with Fed.fmj H.S./HP's, on the other and a Mossberg Cruiser with 7 "managed recoil" .00's against the wall. And a bunch of nosy neighbors (+1 LEO). All I need is a big dog. All those dangerous Amish gangs around here aren't gonna get to me!!

RonBernert
March 1, 2010, 12:45 PM
Recently I have fallen back in love with the .357.. It's my new night stand gun. And my car gun. And my motorcycle gun. Too loud for the house? Sure..

Omaha-BeenGlockin
March 1, 2010, 12:52 PM
At the moment--Ruger KP95 and 3 spare mags close by--if 61 rounds won't do it--I'm not sure what will.

New M&P .45 might fill that role when I get my 2 more mags from S&W.

shockwave
March 1, 2010, 12:55 PM
My Taurus Judge - Three 410 ShotShells On Bottom and Two 45 Cold Rounds On Top.

For a while, I had a similar setup with my 686+ : 1 shotshell, 3 .38 spl hollowpoints, 3 .357 mag. The idea was that the first round would disorient a BG without killing him and might get him running off. Like a load of rocksalt. Then it's escalating force past that. Since then I've changed my mind and now its 3 .38s and then the .357s, in Corbon DPX. One of the strong points for a .357 as a bedside gun is the variety of ammo setups you have available.

Girodin
March 1, 2010, 03:52 PM
The Glock 22's grip sucks!
Kimber Commander 1911 mag capacity sucks!

Well you could get a G22 and have a grip reduction done. Oh there are also lots of other handguns besides Glock and 1911. S&W, Steyr, Sig, FN, etc

I'd posit that an 8 round 1911 is more than enough for HD.

easyg
March 1, 2010, 03:58 PM
The Glock 22's grip sucks!
No.
You just need to practice shooting it more.
The human hand is a wonderful thing....it can adapt to virtually any handgun.
With practice, anyone can learn to shoot a Glock very fast and accurately.
If you go to a shooting school like Thunder Ranch you will see that the Glock works just fine.


Kimber Commander 1911 mag capacity sucks!
Which is why your Glock 22 is the better option.


Mouse guns suck in general!
I agree.
The smallest I would ever go is a snub-nose in .38 Special.


Revolvers have the same problem as the 1911 does.
Right!
So again, this is why your Glock 22 is your better option.


Shotguns aren't really an option and I already have one in the closet.
SHOTGUNS ROCK!!!
But they can be a bit awkward and unwieldy for home defense....which is why the Glock 22 may be the better option inside your home.


The gun is to be used in the car and the nighstand plus as a holster gun for target shooting and hunting, and I have gone through all of my guns, I can't find one of them that is perfect for this.
This where the Glock 22 might not be the best option for you.
Instead, I recommend the Glock 27 subcompact, or the Glock 23 compact.



I also debate the .40 vs the .45 and have been doing some research on different brands but I don't know.
Both calibers are good.
But if you want more magazine capacity, then the .40 is going to be your best bet.


What's your setup and what would you like for these tasks?
I had a Glock 22 and, in my opinion, it is nearly perfect as a home-defense/truck/range gun.
It's only real shortcoming is in concealed carry.
Which is why I traded it for a Glock 27 once I got my CCW permit.

Now the G27 serves are my home-defense/truck/concealed carry pistol.
For a small gun it is surprisingly accurate (nearly as accurate in my hands as my G22 was), and 10 rounds of .40 is not bad for capacity.
Besides, if I want more capacity for home-defense I can always use my G22 15-round mags in my G27.

It is not a great range gun but I'm a firm believer than one must practice with what they carry.


Good luck,
Easy

Motownfire
March 1, 2010, 04:17 PM
Well stated easyg.

NJGunOwner81
March 1, 2010, 04:26 PM
ForumSurfer: The Judge is a very fun gun to shoot and in NJ it must be somewhat rare because I've been a member at two different ranges and every time I bring that gun and start shooting I hear people in the background asking what the hell is he firing.

Even if you're not a Class 1 Sniper The Judge at close range is devastating! What really bothers me is when I see people beating up on The Judge for not being accurate. The Judge IS accurate at CLOSE RANGE because that is how it was designed! The Judge is a car gun or home defense gun ... NOT a range/target gun ... these people are loading the 410 shells and shooting at a target 50yds away and then getting all bent when they miss!

Standing in your hallway or bedroom firing at somebody 5 or 10 feet away there is little chance of missing ... unless you're not pointing the gun at them that is.

***

ShockWave: Your statement is exactly what I was thinking too! I'd really rather not have to kill somebody so if I can scare him off or wound him to make his think twice and run I'd prefer to do that. But make no mistake, if it came down to him or me ... or him and one of my loved ones you can be damn sure it's going to be him!

Listen ... I'd rather not kill somebody but if you were to force my hand then I'd have no compunction or second thought about putting you down!



I hope that neither I or anyone else here is ever put into a situation where they are forced to pull their weapon but if you are I pray your shots are dead on and you have no doubts or guilt about what you're doing! Take Care and Be Safe!!!

Frank
NJGunOwner81

Strahley
March 1, 2010, 05:43 PM
If 9 rounds of .45 in your 1911 won't solve the problem, maybe you should go with a shotgun afterall

okespe04
March 1, 2010, 07:05 PM
I sport a glock19 with a 33 round mag full of Hornady Critical Defense and a flash light lately. Sometimes a 1911, sometimes a ruger gp100. Occasionally a 12 gauge. I kind of mix it up, one way or another I sleep great at night.

lwknight
March 2, 2010, 02:43 AM
Here is something that I did not see mentioned. If you fire a 357 magnum in the house, you will be temporarily blinded and everyone in the house will be deaf. Unless you have a low flash load and some powders do not make the earthshaking BOOOM! that is typical to the 357 and 44 magnums.

PAPACHUCK
March 2, 2010, 06:54 AM
XD45 Tactical
Night sights
TLR-2
14rds Ranger 230+P

Perfect for me.

easyg
March 2, 2010, 09:44 AM
If you fire a 357 magnum in the house, you will be temporarily blinded and everyone in the house will be deaf.
Not true.

lwknight
March 2, 2010, 03:28 PM
I don't want to test it. Therefore I have no farther argument.

kowenjr
March 2, 2010, 09:06 PM
HK45

Bavarian_Motorist
March 4, 2010, 09:03 PM
Beretta 9000s 40cal DA/SA

gym
March 7, 2010, 12:14 AM
A 45 in whatever flavor you like best, a G30 wit night sights works for me, and a nice maglight, the big one that you can also use as a baton or club.

sigsteve
March 7, 2010, 01:13 AM
Mine is a Sig 229 in a .357 Sig with a Sig Sauer Tactical light/laser. Everything I need for a surprise entry into my home. Somebody is gonna have a big hurt if they come into my house uninvited while I'm sleeping!

North Bender
March 7, 2010, 01:49 AM
I can't imagine taking opinions from a forum for such a decision.

woad_yurt
March 7, 2010, 12:06 PM
I didn't read most of this so....

Heavy, simple, 9MM, reliable, DA/SA: Star MODS 28, 30, 30M, 30MI, 30PK (alloy frame.)

I have a 30MI. It's a great gun and it's affordable. $250-$350 online frequently. S&W 5900 mags fit it so extras are available. Take down takes a minute. Star DA/SAs are the undiscovered, underpriced, ignored gems.

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/images/Model%2030/mod%2030-9.jpg
Swiped photo.

NMGonzo
March 7, 2010, 12:11 PM
sp101

Jeff23
March 7, 2010, 08:58 PM
I have an S&W Model 64 loaded with .38 spl Federal Hydra-Shocks in my mini-vault. Got a Surefire flashlight & extra cell phone in there too. I can get to my Remington 870 w/ HD barrel in a hurry if God forbid things go that far. Wife has a 20-ga Remington Spartan coach gun over on her side. Simple yet effective. :)

Bovice
March 8, 2010, 05:19 AM
Go to your gun shop. Find the Sig Sauer case. GIT YOU SOME!

lexjj
March 8, 2010, 06:53 AM
If you like everything about the Kimber 1911 but the capacity, you can always get some Chip McCormick 10 Round Power Mags. The magazines are reliable. They stick out of the frame about 1 inch. That would not be good for concealed carry, but in a night stand role, I can't see how it would matter.

11 rounds of .45 acp might be enough for you. Otherwise, maybe a CZ 75.

DevilDog0402
March 8, 2010, 09:28 AM
JLaScala -+1 for XD45 13rnds of stopping power, and she feels real nice with a hogue grip.

That's my current setup. I also have an Insight taclight on it.

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