Biggest caliber you would use on whitetail?


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Arkel23
June 10, 2009, 09:46 PM
What's the biggest caliber you would use on whitetail? Me well hmmm I heard about a guy dropping a deer with a gut-shot from a .338 win mag. With good shot-placement you could use any gun.(Maybe:D) Max 225-350 yard shot. Open Field lined with woods. SC rifle huntin!!

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gvnwst
June 10, 2009, 09:48 PM
Well, maybe a 20mm HE round or something, just head shot. (i think some meat might still be left, even shooting it there...:D)

Really, i would think anything over 4000 FPE would be a "bit" much, and time to step down to a less harsh caliber. Probably closeer to 3000 FPE would be my max.

edelbrock
June 10, 2009, 09:51 PM
I would say the MOST I would ever use would be a 300 Win Mag. I still think that is overkill for most shots you would make on a whitetail.

Coyote_Hunter_
June 10, 2009, 10:05 PM
.50 as that's the largets I have. Muzzleloader.

PT1911
June 10, 2009, 10:11 PM
Caliber is an incorrect designation. I would hunt a deer with a .45 colt but that doesnt mean i would use a similar bullet diameter in a high powered rifle cartrige. if you are speaking of purely "rifle" cartiges, I would not hunt a deer with anything LARGER than a 45-70 (bigger/slower), and nothing with more punch than a 30-06 (smaller 'by comparison to previous' and faster). there is no need in getting into the magnum rifle cartriges for whitetail deer.

muzzle loaders are another story altogether...


funny story, had a kid come into the shop a while back wanting something different for deer hunting (in alabama) and made no reservations that money was of little object. Showed him some nice guns including a custom Mauser .257 roberts (will be mine tomorrow), weatherby Van-guard 270 with a leupold VXIII (700!!!!!!!!! may be mine soon) kimber 308, kimber 30-06...etc... he wasnt interested... nothing unique enough. I checked out mentally when he said a 45-70 was too small for whitetail.

Damn deer and their kevlar hides... this should do the trick..

http://www.chuckhawks.com/825_magnum.htm

LeonCarr
June 10, 2009, 10:14 PM
I have a buddy who shot a whitetail with a .460 Weatherby Magnum shooting 500 grain SPs, and it was no different than shooting one with a "deer" caliber. You could eat right up to the bullet hole.

Most dangerous game type rounds are loaded with super stout solids or soft points, and they seldom expand on deer size game. By the way, the deer dropped like a stone, DRT.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Uncle Mike
June 10, 2009, 10:23 PM
Biggest caliber you would use on whitetail?

For real...300 wby, win, wsm. I have, they work, but... damn!

If I had it.. .600 Nitro Express :p

For $h1ts and giggles.. 20mm HEI :what: :eek: something to tell the grandkids

Biggest I do use.. 30-06! :)

edelbrock
June 10, 2009, 10:24 PM
Damn deer and their kevlar hides... this should do the trick..

http://www.chuckhawks.com/825_magnum.htm

That is hilarious.

MCgunner
June 10, 2009, 10:27 PM
.50 BMG if I had one. Why not? Is there a law or something? :D I won't use .22s, a little light IMHO, but I don't think there is such a thing as "too big" ethically. Now, yeah, an HE round would mess a little meat up. Hell, a 7 mag messes meat up if you're too close and shoot the shoulder. I know this from experience.

P.B.Walsh
June 10, 2009, 10:28 PM
For $h1ts and giggles.. 20mm HEI something to tell the grandkids


ROTFL:):):):):):) Made my day!!!!!:):):)

Uncle Mike
June 10, 2009, 10:31 PM
eer... we had something like that in the Navy.... SEE POST #8

One of those turret thingies with the three barrels up on deck...lol :D

I'd pay a dollar to see one of you guys shoot that beast! :neener:

PT1911
June 10, 2009, 10:34 PM
I guess I hunt with too much of that whole respect for the creature mentality. Why blow it into pieces when you can kill it just as quickly while preserving it.

Same reason I dont strap dead deer to the hood of my car I guess..

rangerruck
June 10, 2009, 10:38 PM
I think an 8mmslow would be perfect; such as a 323, or the end all be all of hunting rounds, the 338 federal. It is a great round, and will drop anything in north america.

P.B.Walsh
June 10, 2009, 10:48 PM
Really though, the largest I'd hunt with one would probaly be no larger than .300WM, or mabey 7mm Rem. Mag., or a .338LM (this would really be pushing it). I like my .308.

HB
June 10, 2009, 11:16 PM
Well, I use M94 in .30-30, a Savage in .243, a .50 muzzle loader, or a bow, so max would be a .30-06 for me. Maybe a 7mm mag for long shots.
My goal this year is to get one with each gun I use and one with a .357 Blackhawk I just bought :D I love Missouri!

Matrix187
June 10, 2009, 11:54 PM
I've use everything from a .223 to a 7mm mag, and everything did the job just fine. I've used .308, 7mm mauser, 7.62x39, 7mm magnum, ,223, and all did equally fine since I always had good shot placement. I think the 7mm mag works fine, but it's power isn't necessary at all for white tail.

Arkel23
June 10, 2009, 11:58 PM
i checked out mentally when he said a 45-70 was too small for whitetail.
wow lol.

redneckdan
June 11, 2009, 12:05 AM
I used a down loaded .375 holland an holland before. Worked pretty well.

browningguy
June 11, 2009, 12:33 AM
I shoot one almost every year with a .458 Winchester Magnum. We have a group that does a big bore hunt and the smallest cartridge you can use is a .375 H&H.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
June 11, 2009, 12:36 AM
Probably a 7mm Rem mag, for really really long shots.

mongo4567
June 11, 2009, 12:45 AM
I'm going to shoot one with my 50 bmg when I get around to it. I'll do a neck shot so it won't mess up any meat.

gvnwst
June 11, 2009, 01:14 AM
I shoot one almost every year with a .458 Winchester Magnum. We have a group that does a big bore hunt and the smallest cartridge you can use is a .375 H&H.


So, any guys there with .505 gibbs and similar??? If so, got pics of what must be carnage? :D

jpwilly
June 11, 2009, 01:20 AM
Same reason I dont strap dead deer to the hood of my car I guess..

YEA, they gotto ride on the roof!!!

sarduy
June 11, 2009, 02:09 AM
maybe with this...

http://user.mc.net/~hawk/doracol.jpg
http://user.mc.net/~hawk/gun03.jpg

Maverick223
June 11, 2009, 02:10 AM
The way I figure it...the bigger the cartridge the less work. No tracking, gutting, cutting, er' tenderizing necessary. :neener:

Dr.Rob
June 11, 2009, 03:05 AM
.45/70 was popular 'back east' for a lot longer than it was out west. The recent renewed interest in the cartridge can be blamed almost entirely on Marlin's success in marketing it to elk and bear hunters. .45/70 is moving so slow it doesn't blood shoot the meat like belted magnums can, it's plenty of gun for the job, without being overkill.

SHvar
June 11, 2009, 05:23 AM
I once saw a doe charge a guy I knew years ago(she was acting seriously aggressive), he was shooting targets with a 45-70, at 30 ft away the entire top of her head came off in tiny pieces (everything above the lower jaw). She dropped like a sack of potatoes, but had a lot of forward momentum yet.

cottonmouth
June 11, 2009, 05:42 AM
I have never used anything bigger than .458 Winchester. :D I know, I know.... but when you reload you can get it down to below 45-70. I have a 420 grain lead flat nose that's around 1,300 fps and recoils like a kitty cat.

J.B.

surjimmy
June 11, 2009, 09:52 AM
Don't know about the largest caliber, but I hunt deer with a 300wsm and when I'm hunting in thick brush my gun is a Marlin 45-70.

MCgunner
June 11, 2009, 10:12 AM
I have nothing against folks using belted magnums. I don't think it's necessary, love my .308 and my .257 Roberts for deer hunting, but I've shot a handful with my 7 mag and it's a good gun, especially if ranges stretch. Best buck I have was shot with that gun, behind the shoulder, quartering away, DRT. It's an accurate rifle, don't keep inaccurate ones.

Main thing is, if you're going to use a big gun, know how to shoot it. Some folks don't do well with recoil. The big 7, though, really ain't much worse than a .30-06. Put 120 grains equivalent of Pyrodex in my Hawken, it's worse than the 7. 90 grains is almost as bad. 120 grains will wake you up! :D I've only shot that load a few times, 90 being my standard. .375 and up take some getting used to. Some folks just never get used to 'em.

Dogbite
June 11, 2009, 10:49 AM
I used a 300 win mag, and every body had 308's and 30-06's, and called mine a cannon. I did know a guy who wanted to try out his 375 h&h magnum on deer. He hit one well and it ran off-got about 100 yards before it went down. You just never know.

Dogbite
June 11, 2009, 10:51 AM
Main thing is, if you're going to use a big gun, know how to shoot it.
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Oh how true sir!

freakshow10mm
June 11, 2009, 10:52 AM
I like the 375 H&H. Less meat damage than a .270 Win.

robsc
June 11, 2009, 10:58 AM
I`m in Greenville county upstate S.C. .308win. and .270wsm perform well for me on deer. Woods fields clearcuts powerlines. All are covered. Coyotes have about nearly wiped out decent deer hunting in Laurens and Newberry counties. If you have deer enjoy hunting while you can.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
June 11, 2009, 11:01 AM
I guess I lied above when I said 7mm remmag. The biggest 'caliber' I'd use (and have) is a .50 caliber muzzleloader.

I wouldn't be opposed to using a .54 or .58 cal ML either, or even a .73 caliber rifled 'shotgun' slug, but so far I'm happy with my .50 cals. I suppose technically, the answer to the question is ".73 caliber", since I would use a 12 ga slug.

I've also killed deer with .45 cal ML, and hunted deer with a .45-70.

bearmgc
June 11, 2009, 11:19 AM
444Marlin with the anemic Remington 240gr factory. Works just fine.

SlamFire1
June 11, 2009, 11:25 AM
You ought to hit one with a 12 Ga slug. The Brenneke slug I used literally drilled a 2 inch entrance wound. It clipped a lung and the blood trail was like someone had thrown buckets of blood on the ground, on the sides of trees.

The deer bled out very quickly, did not go far.

Arkel23
June 11, 2009, 04:36 PM
I`m in Greenville county upstate S.C. .308win. and .270wsm perform well for me on deer. Woods fields clearcuts powerlines. All are covered. Coyotes have about nearly wiped out decent deer hunting in Laurens and Newberry counties. If you have deer enjoy hunting while you can. We don't have any problems with the yotes up this way.

MMCSRET
June 11, 2009, 04:41 PM
45-70, 444 Marlin. Those are the biggest I've got, sorry!!!!!
I have taken whitetail deer with a 22 long rifle.

Mr. T
June 11, 2009, 05:42 PM
In Wisconsin, where deer can weigh up to 250-300 lbs. I have yet to see anything walk away from my .270 or my 30.06. The 30.06 with max bullet weight of 165 grains; anything larger and you're just wrecking meat. You don't need anything more than the 30.06 for any North American game, you just adjust the weight of your bullets to match what you're pursuing. It's the most versatile gun ever made in my opinion. For Whitetail though the .270 is an excellent caliber as well; flat shooting and you could literally shoot it all day long and not get a sore shoulder. Excellent Lower 48 State Round.

SpeedAKL
June 11, 2009, 05:58 PM
Biggest cartridge you should use? The biggest you can shoot well and still have some deer left:evil:

usmc1371
June 11, 2009, 10:10 PM
I have shot quite a few mule deer with 30-06 and a few with 300 win mag, not much dif they all die IF you hit them good and run off it you don't. The most damage I have ever seen on a deer is from a 270 weatherby+hot handload+nosler blistic tip+under fifty yards. The front right corner of that deer was dog food.
I fully intend to carry my 375 hnh this year with 300g nosler partitions and I figure thay won't open up in a deer so prob won't be a bad as my 06.

RevolverMan567
June 11, 2009, 10:40 PM
i have a new 375 H&H that I piced up a few months ago, I have worked up loads in the gun with hornady's 300 grain interlokt and i fully intend to take a deer with it this year for ****s and giggles, im quite sure it wouldbe an ethical kil and to be honest, ijust wat to see what it will do,

im thinking of moving down to the 200 grain speers though, as they would be moving mush faster and likely give more expansion/penetration ratio on the thinner skin game.

deerhunter61
June 11, 2009, 10:48 PM
The biggest I would use would be my 300 win mag. I have killed a few deer with it but doubt I will use it again because I have a few more to choose from now like my sweet CZ 6.5x55 Swede.

Al Thompson
June 11, 2009, 10:53 PM
In .375 H&H, I'm a fan of the 250 grain bullets for non-dangerous game. Works fine on hogs, turns the smaller one sideways when you hit'em.. :D

freakshow10mm
June 12, 2009, 12:54 AM
I love the 250gr Sierra GKSP in .375 Holland. You should try their 300gr GKSP. I might switch to them.

tractorshaft
June 12, 2009, 12:06 PM
I shot a doe for camp meat one time while out bear hunting on Afognak Island , she was walking up the trail towards me at about 20 yards. I shot her in the front shoulder at a slight angle, the bullet tore the rib cage in half and exited through the right rump roast still moving supersonic through the alder and spruce thicket. It was a Ruger #1 in .375 H&H with a hot 270 Grain Nosler handload. Never again, I dont like wasting game animals. The whole right side of the deer was totalled and the internals were like gelatin. I should have shot it in the head but was kinda surprised by seeing it so close and "Willing" to hold still for the second I needed.

freakshow10mm
June 12, 2009, 12:13 PM
My deer load is a 300gr Sierra GKSP at 2400fps. Almost zero bloodshot meat, very little damage to meat but I take broadside heart shots.

Throttle the .375 back to a 200gr at about 2400-2500fps like the 375 Winchester and it's a perfect deer load.

SeekHer
June 12, 2009, 12:26 PM
Borrowed from my cousin, his .444 and his .45/70 Marlin lever guns...

I have a friend who has used his .458 Lott/Win Mag a few times...

I have used all three 9.3mm versions...

EDIT
I lied I did take one with a .425 Westley Richards once, sorry!

45crittergitter
June 12, 2009, 05:11 PM
.416 Rem Mag so far, not counting larger caliber, but much less powerful cartridges.

MJR007
June 12, 2009, 05:47 PM
Yep, did the 375 and 416. The 10ga 3 1/2" Hollow Point at 766g traveling at 1,280 was really cool.

JWF III
June 12, 2009, 05:49 PM
Under (semi) normal conditions per OP, the .300 Win is more than adequit(sp).

Now I used to hunt on some family land in the lowcountry of SC (Bamberg County). We had one field that had 3 seperate stands on it. One in each corner on the same side of the field. One in the middle on the other side of the feild. Though we never did it for safety reasons, 3 people, one in each stand couldn't cover that field. It was close to 800 yards across, and close to 1200 yards long (maybe even longer). I would love to go back and sit in that field with a sure 'nuf, long range rifle (.338 LM or .416 Barret). The deer knew exactly where the stands were, and knew exactly where they were safe.

Now for this...something to tell the grandkids

I'll stick with 7.62x51, but laod me up a couple hundred rounds in a Dillon Aero Minigun. A 5 second burst should do it.:D

Wyman

dullh
June 12, 2009, 09:33 PM
Biggest I'd go is a .300 WSM. The only reason I'd use my short mag is for more retained energy at long range, hunting power line runs for example. Close-in woods or any distance less than 350 yds my 7mm-08 is good at keeping the deep freeze stocked.

DawgsFan_07
June 12, 2009, 09:42 PM
50 BMG if I had one. Why not? Is there a law or something? I won't use .22s, a little light IMHO, but I don't think there is such a thing as "too big" ethically. Now, yeah, an HE round would mess a little meat up. Hell, a 7 mag messes meat up if you're too close and shoot the shoulder. I know this from experience.

A buddy of mine, a tank sergeant was qualifying the 50s this one time, and a deer ran across the range... We ate venison bbq that weekend.

Legionnaire
June 12, 2009, 10:57 PM
.30

Either .30-06 or .308.

Wes Janson
June 12, 2009, 11:45 PM
I once heard a fairly credible story from an Air Force pilot who scored a kill on a hog with a 20mm Vulcan...game was recovered and eaten.

Maverick223
June 13, 2009, 01:08 AM
^That's funny right there; I have heard dozens of tales of deer being hunted on the firing range at Bragg...but that is the first kill on a strafing run. :D

22-rimfire
June 13, 2009, 01:55 AM
At one time, I would have said 300 win mag. But I feel that if you have a large bore rifle and want to try it out rather than let it sit in the safe/gun cabinet, by all means take it deer hunting, but take normal front shoulder shots and you won't ruin any more meat than if you used a 30-06.

natman
June 13, 2009, 04:21 AM
Generally speaking something in the 30-06 class, with possible exceptions for some of the older lever action rounds like 444 Marlin, 45-70, etc. I also have a fondness for the 358 Winchester.

I must confess I once used a 458 Win Mag, but with a 350gr reduced handload. It worked quite well, but the 458 is too heavy to drag around the woods on a regular basis.

DutchmanDick
December 5, 2010, 06:05 PM
For cartridge, I wouldn't hesitate to use my .45-70 Remington rolling block (built on an 1870's Egyptian contract receiver). Muzzle loader? I don't have anything BUT big-bore: an original (Nepalese) .577 Enfield rifle-musket (still safe to shoot!) or my kit-built 20 gauge Northwest Trade Gun (.60 ball)

mongo4567
December 5, 2010, 06:20 PM
The biggest I've taken one with is .35 Rem...did a fine job on a central Texas whitetail and a hog. I'm going to take one with a 50 bmg one day...will probably do a neck shot to avoid meat loss. I will be hoping a really big hog comes out though for a shoulder shot with the hollow points.

DC Plumber
December 5, 2010, 06:39 PM
Well, I've been lurking for years and finally took the time to register so I could post. I really enjoy this forum. Feel freel to slap me up if I get out of line, which I rarely do.

OK, the largest caliber I've used to shoot a deer was my Ruger No. 1 .458 Win Mag. I bought it used from a guy in Texas. I've always wanted a big bore rifle and the price was right. I hand load for quite a few calibers and started loading for the .458 too. I shoot it with open sights only and limit my distance to 75 yards. I used a Speer 400g JFP over 65g of H4895. Nice mild load. I hit a spike buck at around 50 yards right in the lungs. He ran 60 to 70 yards and piled up. No meat damaged except that meat between the rib bones.

I used to hunt in shotgun only country and to me this isn't much different except probably more accurate in the right hands. I've always used a .30-06 whenever I used a rifle except for this event. I shot my 8 pointer this year with my Ruger Hawkeye in .30-06 at 75 yards and plan on using the Number one again next year with Hornady 500g RN Interlocks. My main goal is to get comfortable enough that if I ever get the money to go cape buffalo hunting, I'll actually have a little experience shooting at game with an appropriately powered gun

S. Hill
December 5, 2010, 10:54 PM
I know that this is the "Rifle" forum, but I would use the .500 S&W with no reservations.

ricebasher302
December 5, 2010, 11:09 PM
I think the more impractical cartridges are the very fast ones. A .458 Win. makes more sense than a 7mm STW. Damage to meat comes from very fast and/or fragile bullets. A .243 Win. can create a tremendous mess in a shoulder whereas as a .45-70 won't. I just shot a small whitetail buck in the neck with a Remingotn 150 gr. Accutip BT from a 7mm Rem Mag. Range was 175 yds. and the critter's head was nearly severed. Overkill? yea. But a high neck shot doesn't really damage much. As boring as it sounds, it still all comes down to shot placement.

Kachok
December 6, 2010, 02:52 AM
The biggest would be a .54 cal muzzloader, the most powerful would be a .375 H&H. That said they are both a HUGE overkill, my puney 6.5x55 drops them right where they stand with boring regularity, anything bigger is just showing off IMHO. A well placed quality .243 bullet will quickly kill any deer whitetail or otherwise.

foghornl
December 6, 2010, 09:03 AM
In "modern" rifles I have used .30-30 & .30-06.

My muzzle-loader is a .50 Flintlock (Lyman 'Trade Rifle')

chrt396
December 6, 2010, 02:51 PM
The way I figure it...the bigger the cartridge the less work. No tracking, gutting, cutting, er' tenderizing necessary. :neener:

Now..THAT was funny! :o

testosterone
December 6, 2010, 03:54 PM
I have a friend that regularly takes with with a 300 win mag.

UT PROSIM
December 6, 2010, 04:47 PM
my XO's wife shot a herd of deer with a few 30mm cannon bursts in an AH-64D... she said it looked like a tank target silhouette in the thermals. the video was great

FlyinBryan
December 6, 2010, 10:09 PM
since the largest i have is a 30-06, it would be that one.

Coal Dragger
December 6, 2010, 10:53 PM
I would use a flame thrower. I know that doesn't really count as a caliber, but you could kill the deer and cook it all in one! Mmmmm-----mmmmmm!!!

monwa
December 7, 2010, 01:14 AM
I think you should use as big as you like. It's not as if the bullets explode on impact because they are "bigger".

I have almost exclusively used 30 '06 for all larger game but my Dad used nothing smaller than 375 H&H (his varmint rifle at times). He just loved the cartridge and could shoot it.

Once your hunting with any center fire you can ruin meat and I've seen 270s tear up as much eats as 375.

So I guess it's just your preference.

Coal Dragger
December 7, 2010, 02:24 AM
The correct answer is flame thrower.

natman
December 7, 2010, 04:46 AM
The correct answer is flame thrower.
That way you don't have to cook them either!

oldfool
December 7, 2010, 07:28 AM
243 or 30-30 for me
they ain't elk or moose or even mulies

JohnD13
December 7, 2010, 11:17 AM
How about a 4 bore flimtlock rifle? But with a 53 inch barrel, and weighing about 30 pounds, I'm not too sure about carrying it all day in the woods!

sansone
December 7, 2010, 11:20 AM
since op asked biggest, 7mm rem-mag

moosekiller99
December 7, 2010, 03:12 PM
I don't want to offend anyone, but those of you who have never used a large caliber rifle on whitetail and believe it causes excessive damage are misinformed at the least. I periodically switch between my .270 and .338 Win Mag, depending upon whatever mood I am in the morning or afternoon of the days hunt. Believe me, a 250 grain Sierra or Hornady is very effective, quick and easy on the meat. I truly love my .270 but if I had to choose which caliber to use on a buck of a lifetime, no contest. The 338 gets the nod. Alaska moose, black bear and numerous deer, all one-shot kills, dropped in their tracks.

kludge
December 7, 2010, 05:28 PM
Not counting a shotgun or muzzleloader...

Biggest caliber I've used: .45
Smallest: .35

UnTainted
December 7, 2010, 06:46 PM
I'd go as big as 375 H&H, or maybe 450 marlin in an ar-10 upper, but no bigger. :D

BrocLuno
December 7, 2010, 11:29 PM
My uncles 444 Marlin :) Bigger than anything I own.

wombat13
December 8, 2010, 10:20 AM
I don't want to offend anyone, but those of you who have never used a large caliber rifle on whitetail and believe it causes excessive damage are misinformed at the least. I periodically switch between my .270 and .338 Win Mag, depending upon whatever mood I am in the morning or afternoon of the days hunt. Believe me, a 250 grain Sierra or Hornady is very effective, quick and easy on the meat. I truly love my .270 but if I had to choose which caliber to use on a buck of a lifetime, no contest. The 338 gets the nod. Alaska moose, black bear and numerous deer, all one-shot kills, dropped in their tracks.
You are exactly right. My FIL has used his .338WM for years because it was a gift from his brother (before that he used a .30-06). He never had any wasted meat until this year when he shot too far forward and hit the shoulders. He would have lost that meat with the same bullet placement with his .30-06.

I'm no expert hunter, but in my four years of hunting whitetail I've taken them with the following: .30-06 (1 deer), .338WM (1 deer), .300WM (2 deer), .50 cal ML (1 deer), .45 cal saboted bullet from a 12 ga. (3 deer). The only meat I lost was the first deer I ever shot which I took with the 12 ga. The deer was quartering away and the bullet went through the chest and hit the far shoulder. I would have lost meat with any of my hunting weapons.

Sensai
December 8, 2010, 02:03 PM
45/70 - Big hole coming and going, but you could "eat right up to the hole".

UnTainted
December 8, 2010, 02:13 PM
right up to the exit hole maybe, the 45/70 on deer still creates a bruise impact area at least the size of an apple. Right up to the hole there if you want lead gravy ;)

StrawHat
December 8, 2010, 03:07 PM
I have used several large caliber long guns on white tailed deer. A brown Bess (.72), a Charlesville (.69), trapdoor Springfields (both 50 Gov't and 45-70). Never had a problem tracking, most drop close to where there were standing at the shot. Having said that, I have also used the 6.5 Swede to good effect but prefer the older cartridges.

bobleeswagger
December 8, 2010, 03:30 PM
Classic

redhawk500
January 5, 2011, 01:38 AM
A .458 Lott would be my biggest conventional rifle. After that I'm planning a 500 Linebaugh deer hunt. If I don't use some of those big bores on deer, what else is there from one cheapback 40 acres hunt to the next? The nice thing about big bores, even the plinking loads are deer killers for sure!

Old Time Hunter
January 5, 2011, 11:43 AM
.45/70 was popular 'back east' for a lot longer than it was out west.

Interesting...any data to back it up? Mine shows the .50-70 still being issued to eastern militia and regular army units well past when the .45-70's were being issued to Indian War soldiers farther west. Actually, as far as cartridge fire arms after the Civil War, eastern hunters looked upon the .44 rimfire as more than enough, most of the Spencers .56-52 stayed there too as they were "surplus" arms and not considered "long" range like the .45-70's. The "Buffalo" hunters of the day considered the .45-70 as the minimum standard for hunting buffalo as they had to shoot from long distances so as not to scare the herd in to stampeding as they cherry picked.

As far as here in Wisconsin, where we have had a regulated hunting season since about 1880, the single most common caliber was the .44-40 and the second most was the .45-70 up until the .30-30 finally overtook both of them. By the way, I still occasionally hunt Whitetail with a Springfield Trapdoor.

And that is the largest "caliber" I would use in a cartridge rifle, of course I've used up to a .58 cal muzzle loader though. The most powerful that I have used is a .300 WM, kind of overkill, but I won the rifle in a contest and tried it in the woods....you could hit a deer in the hoof and take it down. My basic Whitetail carry rifle is now a .444 Timber Carbine, followed by my little .44 Mag '94 Trapper if I plan on a lot of still hunting....but there is also about thirty others that I can consider for Whitetail in my collection too.

fireman 9731
January 5, 2011, 12:08 PM
right up to the exit hole maybe, the 45/70 on deer still creates a bruise impact area at least the size of an apple. Right up to the hole there if you want lead gravy

In my experience that doesn't happen. I have shot 2 deer with my 45-70. I used a 350gr hard cast flat nose bullet loaded to about 2200fps.

No bruised meat at all!

Literally a 45 caliber hole the whole way through. Then again, I did nail both of mine right through the heart and they dropped like a sack of potatoes. I think an instant kill prevents bruising from happening.

TheGrimReaper
January 5, 2011, 06:00 PM
.45-70 govt

BrocLuno
January 5, 2011, 06:06 PM
225 to 350 yds per the OP, it'd be my .257 Bob :)

But, I suppose others might use .308, 06, .270, 6.5mm or a few others - maybe .243? Don't know if a Magnum is needed :confused:

Hunt480
January 5, 2011, 08:53 PM
500 s&w

Hangingrock
January 6, 2011, 08:24 AM
Apparently some of the locals feel over gunned if more than a .22 rimfire is used.

Sav .250
January 6, 2011, 09:11 AM
I`m thinking there are some who would use a cannon if the could. Lots of machismo firing of a large, smooth bore.

db_tanker
January 6, 2011, 09:48 AM
most of the white-tail in Ft. Knox were smart enough to stay away from TT-8 and 12 when I was there. A 105mm practice Sabot would be interesting. :D


In real life? 45-70 for saber tooth deer or a 308 or 30 WCF for the less vicious white tail.

pwillie
January 6, 2011, 10:05 AM
300 Weatherby,50 yds are 500yds...all the same. 150 nosler...:D

tootiny03
January 6, 2011, 01:55 PM
I hate to say it but im only 21 years old and I feel smarter than most of yall. Why would u want to use a big caliber on anything????? I have been hunting since i was 12 years old when i got my first rifle and it is a remington 710 .270. and it will drop a deer at 300 yards with the bushnell scope that came on it. You dont need a large caliber to do the job. You just need to know how to shoot the gun right and hit your mark!!!!!!!!

FoMoGo
January 6, 2011, 01:59 PM
And there is where your lack of knowledge shows up.
A .45-70 with a hardcast 400+ gr bullet will hit like a hammer, poke a hole from rump to chest, and not tear up NEAR the meat that .270 will.


Jim

HarcyPervin
January 6, 2011, 02:10 PM
not to mention that a .270 is in no way an anemic round. Its no ultra-mag, but its still hitting plenty hard. Maybe think a little harder next time about how you're going to follow it up when you tell everybody you're smarter than they are. That being said, the biggest i've used is a 30-06, smallest was a .22-250, both have killed deer before they knew they were injured. Would I shoot a .50 bmg at a deer? why not...with as much energy as some of those ultra mags are carrying, they're just going to punch a small hole through light-skinned game on both sides...everyone should strive to be hitting their mark, but using a .270 to kill a deer doesn't make you annie oakley, it makes you an average hunter

FoMoGo
January 6, 2011, 02:22 PM
I hate to say it but im only 21 years old and I feel smarter than most of yall. Why would u want to use a big caliber on anything????? I have been hunting since i was 12 years old when i got my first rifle and it is a remington 710 .270. and it will drop a deer at 300 yards with the bushnell scope that came on it. You dont need a large caliber to do the job. You just need to know how to shoot the gun right and hit your mark!!!!!!!!
Here is one reason for a large caliber for hunting whitetail.
With a larger caliber, lets say .458 or so, you have a .458 hole on both sides of the animal to let air in and blood out.
You have a heavier round at a slower speed, you have less likelyhood of bloodshot meat... however it still has massive momentum for penetration.
A slower speed .405 gr hard cast will out penetrate the smaller faster calibers any day of the week.

Big rounds are also fun to shoot. :D


Jim

LoonWulf
January 6, 2011, 02:49 PM
Id shoot them with what ever i bloody well felt like shooting them with. .22lr to .300 only real difference is how far you can shoot and where you have to hit them.

gkdir
January 6, 2011, 05:45 PM
Been shootin deer for over 50 years--almost always with a 30.30, or a 30.06. This year took a Weatherby .300 mag. for no other reason than I liked the looks of the rifle, and I wanted to shoot something different . OMG! Then to compound the mess I took my sons advice and used 165gr BT's--might as well have taken a RPG. DRT has a whole new meaning. You fellows that like to eat "right up to the hole" would have had a lot of lee way--some of the exits were 10" across. One 200# doe--completely decapitated--gone! If I do that again I think I'll just use solids--more than likely just go back to my"06". whew!

Hunt480
January 6, 2011, 08:37 PM
Using mild loads with heavy hard cast bullets from a 500 S&W or a 480/475 blows a big hole and does minimal meat damage. They will always pass all the way through. Great deer hunting guns.

pwillie
January 6, 2011, 10:18 PM
I have been using my Model 70 Weatherby 300 for over 15 years,taking whitail deer....first I have never seen a whitetail doe that weighs 200#(in the South),and next,with a neck shot and a 150 gr.Nosler,never had any meat spoilage! I mostly shoot the doe's in the head.:D

brandon_mcg
January 6, 2011, 10:23 PM
i stick with the .308 as it always gives me a quick and humane kill. no reason to go any bigger.

handgunner308
January 6, 2011, 10:30 PM
i would use all the cartriges... even a 50bmg! well not a high powered 50bmg round that has a big exspansion, seen vids of deer hit with 50bmg rounds and eh they looked like a normal wounds... until i saw one shot with what must have been a high power expanding round wich hit a quartering twards small buck the entry was normal, the exit took out a entire wall of ribs on the left side everything was gone!
our DE .50ae leaves an entry and exit hole wich looks the same as my smoothbore shotgun with rifled slugs... nothing is over kill, the more over the less pain and suffering the animal has to go through right?
for the meat hunters all i have to say is, SHOT PLACEMENT, not much is lost if you can double lung a deer through the ribs theres not alot of meat there so you can see my point.

clancy12
January 7, 2011, 12:58 AM
30-378 weatherby magnum. At 300 yards it has more power than a 30-06 at the muzzle.:D Only downside is you have to walk a realllllllly long way to retrieve your deer. (Due to the long shots, not from a lack of killing power.)

mordechaianiliewicz
January 7, 2011, 02:31 AM
800mm (that's a 31.5") gun.... doubt there would be much meat... not to mention reproducing WWII-era artillery.

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