marlin 39a or winchester 9422


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hunting freak
June 11, 2009, 05:57 PM
Looking to get a lever action 22 rifle. Perferabley a marlin 39a or winchester 9422. I already have a marlin model 60 i love it.

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jkingrph
June 11, 2009, 07:41 PM
Marlin all the way!

22-rimfire
June 11, 2009, 09:14 PM
Cost will be about the same. I would choose the Marlin myself as the first choice, but would yearn for a 9422 down the road.

jmr40
June 11, 2009, 09:36 PM
I have both and like the Marlin better, but they are still making the Marlin and have been for a loooong time. Buy the Winchester if you get a chance at a good price. They only made them for a few years and have since stopped.

76shuvlinoff
June 11, 2009, 10:03 PM
Having owned a 1979 39A since 1983 and having lusted after my Dad's 1952 version for about as long, I'm a bit biased but if it were me I'd get the Winchester..... because I don't have it.

XTerminator
June 11, 2009, 10:19 PM
Winchesters are at a premium now because they're no longer made, but you can still find a nice pre-safety 39A for less than $400 if you look a bit.
I have 3 Marlins so I'm a little prejudiced. ;)

Steve

Clint C
June 11, 2009, 11:02 PM
The 39a doesn't even compare to the 9422. If you were to just look at them you could tell. I well give that the 39a is a good shooter, But I am sorry the 9422 is just pure quality. I can hit clays at 100 yards iron sights with mine.

One more thing they only go for a premium if you want to pay a premium. If you were to buy one of these and had to sell it because of the hard time upon us, which do you think would resale for more? I bought this one for $280.00 three month ago. It was made in 1976. These are the ones that well bring a "premium".

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o76/cacyhupp/IMG_0792.jpg

Go over to RFC.com and do a search on the 39a. Mostly what well come up are threads on people asking what is wrong with their Marlin 39a.

If anyone wants to pruve me wrong send me a pm and we can go see who's is better at the range.

I would strongly recomend buying the Winchester 9422.

Clint C
June 11, 2009, 11:05 PM
What ever you do make sure you don't buy a Henry. I would recomend buying a Browning BL-22 if you can't buy a Winchester.

hunting freak
June 11, 2009, 11:07 PM
thanks for the advice now give me some advice on the ruger mk.III hunter and the heritage ruff rider

Clint C
June 11, 2009, 11:16 PM
I don't have any experience with the Heritage Rough Rider or the Ruger MKIII. I do have experience with the MKI, MKII, MK10. I loved the MK10 because you could shoot it and not have your ears bothered one bit, But I had to trade it for a Winchester 1894 30-30 made in 1942. I had a Ruger single six once and I'll tell you that is one neat wheel gun. I am going to have to get another, maybe one with a longer barrel. Oh and they are a single action, I didn't know it when I bought it. You might want to check the Heritage for that if it matters to you.

Hope this helps,
Clint

Clint C
June 11, 2009, 11:24 PM
Here is my mk10, this thing shot like a rifle.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o76/cacyhupp/IMG_0707-2.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o76/cacyhupp/IMG_0722-1.jpg

Clint C
June 11, 2009, 11:25 PM
Sorry guys I like to show off me toys. Even if I don't have some of them anymore.:D

Gunther
June 11, 2009, 11:34 PM
Have both, Winchester is a safe queen, Marlin 39TDS gets the nod for shootin

gun nuts
June 11, 2009, 11:50 PM
i have a mk.III hunter i killed a bobcat with it at 55 yards 2 days ago thats 55 yards with a 22 pistol it has a fluted bull barrel and 3 mags

351 WINCHESTER
June 12, 2009, 12:02 AM
The winchester is a lot smoother than the marlin. My truck gun was a 9422 mag. for years. It saw abuse beyond description, was never cleaned (until last year). It never dawned on me that one day it would be a collectors item. It looks like heck, but still shoots like it was new. My son has a marlin that has given him problems. I'll take the winchester every time.

Dr.Rob
June 12, 2009, 12:35 AM
In the 40 some years my dad's Marlin has been around I don't think it's ever had problems.

I'd go Marlin.

hunting freak
June 12, 2009, 12:54 AM
has any body had any trouble with the marlin 39a or winchester 9422

cpirtle
June 12, 2009, 12:21 PM
One more thing they only go for a premium if you want to pay a premium. If you were to buy one of these and had to sell it because of the hard time upon us, which do you think would resale for more? I bought this one for $280.00 three month ago. It was made in 1976. These are the ones that well bring a "premium".


I'm a bit confused by your logic. You say Winchester will bring a premium, yet you paid $280 for yours... I would buy every decent 39 I could find for $280.

Sure, the Winchester name is worth something but for a shooter the Marlin is still the standard by which others are compared IMO. I am a fan of Winchester and own several (mainly 97's), but in this particular gun the 39 is better.

I have a 90%+ 40's era 39 that I picked up a couple of years ago for $350 and it was a bargain. It's a toss-up between the 39 and my 40's era Winchester 61 as to which is my favorite plinker rifle.



I have a dozen or more .22 pistols and have been exposed to plenty of the heritage rough riders with cowboy shooting (kids shoot them) although I have never owned one. Their name fits the gun, rough. But for the money people like them.

Hard to go wrong with a Ruger but I would look for a used MKII as opposed to the MKIII. In that price range Buckmark's are great as well.

Since I bought a Smith model 41 though my other .22 pistols just sit around a lot.

Here's a few of mine (sold the slab side though)

http://www.pirtleranch.com/images/Guns/22-45_paclite/100_2440.JPG

http://www.pirtleranch.com/images/Guns/MKII/100_2444.JPG

http://www.pirtleranch.com/images/Guns/S&W617/100_1561.jpg

http://www.pirtleranch.com/images/Guns/S&W_41/100_2418.JPG

offthepaper
June 12, 2009, 05:31 PM
has any body had any trouble with the marlin 39a or winchester 9422

as a matter of fact, yes.
I bought a NIB 39A 3 weeks ago, took it to the range, loaded the rifle,took aim, squeezed the trigger, and ...."Gong" a very metal-on-metal sound instead of bang! :cuss: went through this until the tube was empty. Out of 14 rds loaded into the rifle, only 2 actually fired. I tried some other ammo, but that didn't fire at all. So I contacted Marlin and was told to ship the rifle back to the factory (which I did). No word yet, but was told repairs normally take 30-45 days. Kind of sucks with a brand new rifle that won't fire right out of the box. I bought the rifle as a Father's day gift from me to me (that's another story). Looks like I won't be shooting my new toy on that day.
At the time I was torn between the CZ453 and the Marlin 39A. I hope I made the right choice.

Walkalong
June 12, 2009, 05:41 PM
I have a very old 39A, and it shoots lights out. I always lusted for a 9422, but never pulled the trigger, so to speak. Maybe one of these days.

ArmedBear
June 12, 2009, 07:27 PM
I have a 39M and a 39A. They're great rifles.

I have not owned a 9422, but they have always seemed really nice as well.

Tough choice.:)

conarth
June 12, 2009, 07:30 PM
I bought one of each new in 2005. I sold the Marlin in 2006. The quality of the Winchester was just better overall.

Vern Humphrey
June 12, 2009, 07:35 PM
I traded a Model 39A for a 9422 and never looked back.

Clint C
June 12, 2009, 07:49 PM
I would buy every decent 39 I could find for $280.

I would also since a decent model 39 is worth around $3000.00.

I'm a bit confused by your logic.

I am also, you say you have a 39 from the 40's era. The last year a 39 was made was 1938.

I bought my Winchester at Jack Smith Gun Sales, and he said " that he can't sell these types of guns because all people want are black rifles that hold 200 rounds and fire as fast as you can pull the trigger". He also had a High Standard H-B second model from I believe 1948 in mint condition ( I don't use that term loosley) and he was asking $350.00 for it. If you can't sell em no point in having a high price. Like I said they only sell for a premium if you find someone that wants to pay a premium.

Every now and again you come across a deal, like your 40's era 39. It must be priceless since they were never made in the 40"s. That is a nice Smith and Wesson model 41 you have there cpirtle. I have set out to buy one often, but just can't bring myself to pay as much as they are asking for them.

Now I am seeing a pattern here, all the older model 39a's are great reliable rifles, but the newer ones are seeming to have a few problems. So you can pay $900.00 for an older model 39a, or you can buy a Winchester 9422 at half the price and have a rifle that is not all beat up. 39a's are so ugly to, they have all those screws sticking out of them they look like my old Coast To Coast shotgun.:neener:

Leadhead
June 12, 2009, 08:05 PM
They are both good guns but they feel quite different.....

My 9422 is slimmer feeling and very smooth action!
It has a rimfire groove on top so mounting optics or peeps is easy.
20 inch barrel is nice!
Straight grip

I've got a newer 39AS with the rebounding hammer and it feels thick in the hands ( fat wood) and is not as smooth as the 9422( but still pretty smooth)
It's got the long 24 " barrel which I find a little longer then I'd prefer.
I like the comfort of the pistol grip.

I've got an older 39A that has had the wood slimmed down and the barrel cut back to 18"........Sweet!
It's drilled and tapped on the side for a peep sight but with the Marlin's you need to mount a rail on top if you want optics which is not as clean or convenient as the 9422
Still not as smooth as the 9422 but handles nice and feels solid!

i like them all and if I see a 9422 legacy with the pistol grip I might have to pounce!

JohnBT
June 12, 2009, 10:45 PM
"Mostly what well come up are threads on people asking what is wrong with their Marlin 39a."

:banghead:

Oh nonsense. And yes, I've been a member there for years. I'm sure you have a nice rifle. So's my '63 Golden 39-A Mountie. Has it really been 46 years? Dang.

John

76shuvlinoff
June 12, 2009, 11:02 PM
I will say my 77 39A has been a joy, however Dad's 52 was kinda messed up because "someone" had lost the bullet feed piece and I needed to tighten up the lever with a new spring. The useless 57 year old pos ran like butter after a few bucks in new parts. I bet Winchesters are good too :rolleyes:

Brian Williams
June 12, 2009, 11:53 PM
I rather like my 39m. It kinda goes with my 1894C.

Clint C
June 13, 2009, 12:16 AM
Oh nonsense. And yes, I've been a member there for years.

Go look it up. There are alarming numbers of threads about break downs there.

Look guys, I am not saying the Marlin 39a is useless junk, I just believe the 9422 is on a level above the Marlin. I think the Browning BL-22 is a notch above the Marlin as well.

P51D
June 13, 2009, 12:40 AM
As a teenager I used to drool over ads for the 9422. What classic lines!! It is a beautiful rifle. I still really want one.

There is also a fairly new, but used, 39A staring me in the face at a local gun shop. Beautiful wood, smooth action, and it just feels like a solid rifle. But of course, I have no idea how well it shoots.

And unfortunately, I've never even held a 9422 :(

There has to have been some objective reviews of these two classics, maybe even head-to-head. Anyone have any info on that?

And, if anyone cares to post targets fired by each rifle, I'd love to see them.

Just be forewarned, I've seen some of ClintC's handiwork, and the man can shoot!! ;)

P51D

cpirtle
June 13, 2009, 12:47 AM
I am also, you say you have a 39 from the 40's era. The last year a 39 was made was 1938.
...
Every now and again you come across a deal, like your 40's era 39. It must be priceless since they were never made in the 40"s.

Gee, I think everyone here but you realized I was talking about a 39A, basically rendering the majority of your post worthless.


That is a nice Smith and Wesson model 41 you have there cpirtle. I have set out to buy one often, but just can't bring myself to pay as much as they are asking for them.

Too bad, the 41 is worth every penny and I have all of $650 tied up in this one with 8 mag's.


So you can pay $900.00 for an older model 39a, or you can buy a Winchester 9422 at half the price and have a rifle that is not all beat up. 39a's are so ugly to, they have all those screws sticking out of them they look like my old Coast To Coast shotgun.

You have some major contradiction issues. So is a Winchester a much better investment or only worth half the price? I guess that's if I accept the premise of the inflated price you quote.. last I checked the 39A was not a black rifle that shoots a thousand rounds a minute and nice old ones generally ran the same price as a new one.


Go look it up. There are alarming numbers of threads about break downs there.

Did you ever think that there are more reports of 39A's failing because they outnumber every other "quality" lever .22 on the market?




Took my 39A out tonight and put 150 rounds of PMC Moderators through it ~ just like a laser beam at 50 yards with subsonic ammo :cool:

Clint C
June 13, 2009, 01:01 AM
P51D, thanks for the complement.

cpirtle, I was just horsing around with you, I figured you ment the 39a. Those prices I quoted are out of the Blue Book. Just chill out I was having some fun.:neener:

toivo
June 13, 2009, 02:31 AM
Buy the Winchester if you get a chance at a good price. They only made them for a few years and have since stopped.

The 9422 was introduced in 1972 and discontinued in 2005. Thirty-three years is a pretty good run, but I wish they still made them. I have two: a Traditional from the '70s and a Legacy from 2004. There's just something about a Winchester lever gun. They feel so right in my hands.

The Marlin 39s are fine guns in their own right. I guess if you count the precursor models and everything, the Marlin has been around for over 100 years, so I guess in comparison the Winchester is/was a newcomer. However, although this may not be technically accurate, I think of the 9422 as a Model 94 in a "new chambering," so its lineage is also pretty old.

Bottom line: Buy whichever feels best in your hands and you can afford.

JohnBT
June 13, 2009, 10:34 AM
"Go look it up. There are alarming numbers of threads about break downs there."

Okay, I just looked at the first 4 pages of the Marlin forum at rimfirecentral. There was a thread about a new 39a misfeeding and locking up. I don't find that alarming. I wonder if Remington can fix it. :)

You make it sound like there's been a rash of Model 39 and 39a guns breaking down and that's just not happening. And anyway, since Remington bought Marlin a year-and-a-half ago the Model 39a isn't really a Marlin anymore. Sad.


"So you can pay $900.00 for an older model 39a"

My '63 Mountie is worth how much? They bring more than the 39a rifles, but $900? Not that I've ever seen. Amazing.

I just browsed through gunbroker and gunsamerica. 39a and 39a Mountie prices haven't changed. One new 39a rifle just sold for $489 plus $20 shipping. Asking prices on Mounties are $100 or $200 higher.

John

rhtwist
June 13, 2009, 10:46 AM
Hello,
Just relating an issue I had with my 9422. A case ruptured on firing and the design directed the gas back into my eye. Wear safety glasses. Otherwise I will. say Winchester for sure.
rhtwist

Clint C
June 13, 2009, 11:25 AM
JohnBT, we must be members of a different RFC. I just went and looked at the Marlin section and every page has at least one Marlin problem question on it.

You guys do realize there are more than your basic 39a right?

A '63 39A mountie in 100% is worth $450.00 a '63 39A-DL in 100% is worth $900.00. Your basic model 39A is worth $395.00. This is all according to the Twenty-Eighth Edition of the Blue Book of Gun Values.

Look this is getting way off the OP, and I am tired of arguing. Its like politics you will never get the other person to see things your way.

Good luck to the OP with your decision of what you choose. Let us know and please post some pictures.

au2183
June 13, 2009, 12:31 PM
I have a 9422, a Browning BL-22, a Henry Goldenboy, a Marlin 1897, a 39A Mountie, and 6 other 39A's. I like them all, but if I could only keep one it would be the Mountie. It's a 1955 model, and it functions flawlessy, and it's a tack driver. If something goes wrong with it I know I can get parts for it, and I feel comfortable fixing it myself. I can't say that about any of the other three. The Winny and the BL-22 in particular are definitely not DIY guns when it comes to repair.

hunting freak
June 13, 2009, 04:16 PM
Whats the differenes between the between the marlin 39a mountie and a regular 39a or are they the same.

Vern Humphrey
June 13, 2009, 04:19 PM
The Mountie, designated 39M, has a straight grip stock and a shorte barrel. The 39A has a pistol grip stock.

hoosier8
June 13, 2009, 04:45 PM
56 Marlin 39a Golden Mountie, sweet rifle, shoots better than I can see and it is a takedown that fits in my suitcase.

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5345/39amountieeq1.jpg

ArmedBear
June 13, 2009, 05:33 PM
There's a small problem that can be fixed. I posted complete instructions and photographs, showing how to fix this issue (occasional FTE) with needlenose pliers.

It does disturb me that Marlin doesn't seem to know how to do what I and others have figured out. However, the guns are still built as well as ever (I have an old one and a new one).

They shoot well, work great, and they're takedowns to boot.

That said, the 9422 is a nice gun, without a doubt.

b55baron
June 14, 2009, 02:13 AM
I've got a Marlin Golden 39A my dad gave me when I was a kid. I've put literally thousands of rounds thru it without any problems (it's been a long time since I was a kid). My dad has a 9422 that he bought new. I've shot it a lot but not as much as the Marlin. Both shoot great and group well from a bench at 50 yards.

I'm partial to the Marlin since it's the first gun I ever owned but I think you would be happy with either.

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