First 30. Carbine


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Flip85
June 11, 2009, 11:13 PM
I have just bought my first but hopefully not my last firearm. I paid $400 from the pawn shop.( besides being filthy, it fired just fine.) It is a 30 carbine stamped E.F.M 3430). The folks there told me that the mag release button was made by General Motors because it has the letters ( H I ) stamped on it. Ive been told there may be real GI parts, How do i look up all the numbers, there are some on the sight and on the bayonet lug. Thanks for looking.

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Tim the student
June 11, 2009, 11:40 PM
If you look on the CMP forums, you can probably find info.

ArfinGreebly
June 12, 2009, 12:06 AM
It looks like you have a Type III.

You have that rotating safety lever, which replaced the safety button. The original safety button was close enough to the magazine release that occassionally the operator would drop the mag rather than release safety.

You also have the adjustable ramp rear sight, which is also a later development.

Mine is a Type II, as near as I can tell (Rockola).

The make is engraved/stamped on the receiver just under/behind the rear sight. What does it say there?

Possible names are IBM, Inland, Winchester, Quality Hardware, Underwood, Rockola and so on.

This may help:
M1 Carbine Manufacturers by serial number blocks.

From:___ To:_____ Company:_________________
0,000,001 0,000,005 Inland Division, General Motors
0,000,006 0,000,010 Winchester Repeating Arms
0,000,011 0,999,999 Inland Division, General Motors
1,000,000 1,349,999 Winchester Repeating Arms
1,350,000 1,449,999 Underwood, Elliott, Fisher
1,450,000 1,549,999 National Postal Meter
1,550,000 1,662,519 Quality Hardware Mfg. Corp
1,662,520 1,762,519 Rock-ola Mfg. Corp
1,762,520 1,875,039 Irwin Pedersen-Saginaw Gear
1,875,040 1,937,519 Quality Hardware Mfg., Corp
1,937,520 1,982,519 National Postal Meter
1,982,520 2,352,519 Standard Products
2,352,520 2,912,519 Underwood, Elliott, Fisher
2,912,520 3,212,519 Inland Division, General Motors
3,212,520 3,250,019 Irwin Pedersen-Saginaw Gear
3,250,520 3,651,519 Saginaw (Saginaw) Division
3,651,520 4,009,999 International Business Machines
4,010,000 4,074,999 Underwood, Elliott, Fisher
4,075,000 4,075,009 Winchester Repeating Arms
4,075,010 4,432,099 National Postal Meter
4,432,100 4,532,099 Quality Hardware
4,532,100 4,632,099 Rock-Ola Mfg. Corporation
4,632,100 4,879,525 Quality Hardware Mfg. Corp.
4,879,526 5,549,921 Inland Division, General Motors
5,549,922 5,834,618 Winchester Repeating Arms
5,834,619 6,071,188 Saginaw (Saginaw) Division
6,071,189 6,099,688 Rock-Ola Mfg. Corporation
6,099,689 6,199,688 Underwood, Elliott, Fisher
6,199,689 6,219,688 Rock-Ola Mfg. Corporation
6,219,689 6,449,867 Inland Division, General Motors
6,449,868 6,629,883 Winchester Repeating Arms
6,629,884 7,234,883 Inland Division, General Motors
7,234,884 7,369,660 Winchester Repeating Arms
7,369,661 8,069,660 Inland Division, General Motors

rcmodel
June 12, 2009, 12:50 PM
You do not have a real U.S. GI M-1 Carbine.

It was made by Erma's Firearms Manufacturing Company (EFM) of Steelville, MO.
They made both military style and sport versions of the M1 carbine out of surplus parts and newley manufactured receivers in the 1950's - 60's. In the mid-1960s they become the Steelville Manufacturing Company, and apparently they went out of business about 1967.

http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_ermas.html

rc

Flip85
June 12, 2009, 03:13 PM
Thank you everyone for your info. I
now know the year span my carbine was made between 50's and 60's, and the name of the manufacture. I dont care it its not a "real" GI issue, i just care how well it works, and it works fine.
F.Y.I. wall-mart has been seen with 30 carbine ammo.

JT'sDad
June 13, 2009, 02:33 PM
Congrats. I have the IAI M1 Carbine.
Mine shoots great with any ammo I feed it. Sounds like you got a great carbine, go have fun.

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