armoredman
June 12, 2009, 01:28 PM
Well, I had two slightly differant firearms two try out at the range this morning...
VZ-58 with new furniture and BSA holosight.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/vz58newforearm1.jpg
And the just returned from the factory, never fired by Taurus 850 CIA Ultralite 38Spl. That box of ammo is now hated by me, but we'll get back to that later...
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/tauruswithammo.jpg
I decided I'd better start with the little snub, and brought a few differant rounds to try, including some homebrew, and some thumper self defense rounds. All shots fired two hand hold, standing, DA only, only way this puppy works.
Here's the very first cylinder full ever fired by me, 10 year old Winchester non plus P Silvertips.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209Taurus8503.jpg
Don't miss that flyer way up on the right. This baby kicks! Well, not toooo bad, let's try some handloads. 125gr Hornady XTP, loaded to a book version of a +P round.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209Taurus8504.jpg
That kicks more. How about some light cast stuff? Can this little gun be accurate?
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209Taurus8502.jpg
Hey, that's not too bad! OK, time for some real SD ammo, factory Remington 158 LSWCHP +P.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209Taurus8501.jpg
HOLY COW, hang ON to this thing! Yikes! Glad it isn't a magnum! The shots going down are in order, believe it or not, bullseye first, and down as I began riding that recoil.
So, maybe I should try, just once, what it was designed for, last ditch backup, self defense revolver. So, here we go, weak hand only, 7 yards, Remington wrist breakers...
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209Taurus8505.jpg
I did a double take - that'll do! I cleaned off the exterior, loaded it with the 158gr +P Remingtons, and stuck it in my pocket for the rest of the time. Hardly noticed it was there! Yes, I was legal.:D
Time for the VZ-58's new clothes. Now, I know it has to be sighted in, let's put the target at 25 yards. I'd heard you sight at 25 and check at 100, but I just didn't want to miss the paper entirely.
I didn't. I was off to the left, dead on elevation. Here's one pic from the sighting in time.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209vz58holosight2.jpg
Sighting in was with Wolf black box ammo - why? That's what's in my SHTF chest rig. So, how well will it work with Wolf at 100 yards? Here's the last six I brought.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209vz58holosight3.jpg
Ok, AR guys, laugh all you want - I have NEVER used a holosight before in my life, and a red dot about 3 years ago. I can get minute of bad guy.
But how will it work with my favorite handloads? 24gr of AA#1680 under a Hornady 123gr SP?
It did OK for me.
Then the big one - how well does it hold zero? I removed the sight completely from the rail, then replaced in the same spot, and fired another 5. This target has the ten I fired with the handloads first, taped, and then the after removal/replace 5 rounds.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209vz58holosight4.jpg
Looks like it holds decently to me. I am sure the AR guys are still laughing up thier sleeves...:neener: I like it! And that forward handgrip REALLY helped. Weird, keeping that head up orientation to look through the holosight, which was set for basic crosshairs, BTW.
So, I'm ready for Appleseed now, right? I have one target left! Heh, yeah, right! Prone group shot kneeling - forgot my carpet runner again!
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209vz58holosight1.jpg
I'll own the first group, but the other two? Earth shifted in it's orbit, throwing me off...or, like to paraphrase the legendary Flip Wilson, "The Devil made me shoot low!":banghead::what:
Over all, I had a blast, literally, recovered ALL my brass, always a plus with the way that VZ flings it. Only thing is, my left wrist hurts...seriously...ow...
VZ-58 with new furniture and BSA holosight.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/vz58newforearm1.jpg
And the just returned from the factory, never fired by Taurus 850 CIA Ultralite 38Spl. That box of ammo is now hated by me, but we'll get back to that later...
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/tauruswithammo.jpg
I decided I'd better start with the little snub, and brought a few differant rounds to try, including some homebrew, and some thumper self defense rounds. All shots fired two hand hold, standing, DA only, only way this puppy works.
Here's the very first cylinder full ever fired by me, 10 year old Winchester non plus P Silvertips.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209Taurus8503.jpg
Don't miss that flyer way up on the right. This baby kicks! Well, not toooo bad, let's try some handloads. 125gr Hornady XTP, loaded to a book version of a +P round.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209Taurus8504.jpg
That kicks more. How about some light cast stuff? Can this little gun be accurate?
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209Taurus8502.jpg
Hey, that's not too bad! OK, time for some real SD ammo, factory Remington 158 LSWCHP +P.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209Taurus8501.jpg
HOLY COW, hang ON to this thing! Yikes! Glad it isn't a magnum! The shots going down are in order, believe it or not, bullseye first, and down as I began riding that recoil.
So, maybe I should try, just once, what it was designed for, last ditch backup, self defense revolver. So, here we go, weak hand only, 7 yards, Remington wrist breakers...
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209Taurus8505.jpg
I did a double take - that'll do! I cleaned off the exterior, loaded it with the 158gr +P Remingtons, and stuck it in my pocket for the rest of the time. Hardly noticed it was there! Yes, I was legal.:D
Time for the VZ-58's new clothes. Now, I know it has to be sighted in, let's put the target at 25 yards. I'd heard you sight at 25 and check at 100, but I just didn't want to miss the paper entirely.
I didn't. I was off to the left, dead on elevation. Here's one pic from the sighting in time.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209vz58holosight2.jpg
Sighting in was with Wolf black box ammo - why? That's what's in my SHTF chest rig. So, how well will it work with Wolf at 100 yards? Here's the last six I brought.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209vz58holosight3.jpg
Ok, AR guys, laugh all you want - I have NEVER used a holosight before in my life, and a red dot about 3 years ago. I can get minute of bad guy.
But how will it work with my favorite handloads? 24gr of AA#1680 under a Hornady 123gr SP?
It did OK for me.
Then the big one - how well does it hold zero? I removed the sight completely from the rail, then replaced in the same spot, and fired another 5. This target has the ten I fired with the handloads first, taped, and then the after removal/replace 5 rounds.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209vz58holosight4.jpg
Looks like it holds decently to me. I am sure the AR guys are still laughing up thier sleeves...:neener: I like it! And that forward handgrip REALLY helped. Weird, keeping that head up orientation to look through the holosight, which was set for basic crosshairs, BTW.
So, I'm ready for Appleseed now, right? I have one target left! Heh, yeah, right! Prone group shot kneeling - forgot my carpet runner again!
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/61209vz58holosight1.jpg
I'll own the first group, but the other two? Earth shifted in it's orbit, throwing me off...or, like to paraphrase the legendary Flip Wilson, "The Devil made me shoot low!":banghead::what:
Over all, I had a blast, literally, recovered ALL my brass, always a plus with the way that VZ flings it. Only thing is, my left wrist hurts...seriously...ow...