[Skunkabilly]

Either my P7 broke and I been carrying it around broke, or I tried too hard to get the firing pin bushing out.

So I'm down to my Beretta. Problem is I'm waiting on another IWB concealment holster as my OWB carries it waaaay too far out and doesn't cant back enough for my somali butt to hide it.

Too bad I didn't buy a spare P7M8 :banghead:

What have you guys broken on your P7s? Where do I get parts? Help!

[Lee Woiteshek]

Broke my P7M10 several years back. Bought one of the first to come into the country. Dressed it in Rosen leather. Spent 6 or 7 hundred bucks in mags, and like you carried it broke for 6 months. I'm an LEO, and it was my off duty weapon. I was not a happy guy.Sent it to Sterling and it was the firing pin spring. Gunsmith who talked to H&K said it was the first malfunction of that type they'd seen in 15 years. Sad to say I never trusted the weapon after that, although it never malfunctioned again. It was a one hole shooter, and I traded it and all the goodies for a Wilson Tactical Elite. Which is what I carry when I'm not carrying their SDS.

[El Tejon]

Ahhhh, resss, Skunky learn valuable lesson in gun fu. Buy multiple copies of the pistol you carry. [gong sounds]

[Skunkabilly]

I wanted the Elite I but they're discontinued :(

I was planning on dumping the P7 when the P2000 comes around but may just go 1911...again :rolleyes: :o

Easier to get and get parts for.

[sm]

Holler at WildAlaska. Have him send you a spare gun along with the parts you need. Had that 'blowout" ya know. :D
[your welcome WildAlaska]

El Tejon, reduncency is good...all the mags,holsters,ammo, etc, interchange too. ( danged ole 1911 styles...):)

Skunk, get you 2 Mil-Specs, run'em in the mud the blood and beer, trigger at 4#, skateboard tape and BA/UU/R...

[Skunkabilly]

re wildalaska, I don't like the P7 PSP heel mag releases but the CA DOJ made that decision for me already. Alpha mike foxtrot, Gray Davis (adios my friend)

re1973, I got all choked up and threw down my gun, I called him paw and he called me son... RIP :(

[Andrew Wyatt]

can i get first dibs on your P7?


as an aside, check gun parts corporation for parts, and ask around at hkpro.


park cities tactical might have information for you.

[sm]

Gee Skunk,
Us Southern folks just use stuff as part of everyday language, I didn't even associate the "Sue" reference. You gotta get out of Kali, go to TN, see Nashville , no dumb gun laws...heck before long you'll know what "saucered and blowed" means ....
Be walking and talking - writing songs Like David Allan Coe, and Jerry Jeff Walker...totin' two Mil-Specs and driving pickemuptrucks :)

[10-Ring]

Sounds like bad mojo Skunkabilly! Hopefully you'll be able to find a new firing pin relatively quickly & inexpensively ;)

[Soap]

I would just use an OSS-style loop.

[Skunkabilly]

Right now I'm using my metrotactical Wilderness Safepacker. It's sized for a Colt Commander :o

Just ordered an IWB (in carbon fiber) for my 92G with carbon fiber grips.

[WonderNine]

I would just Mexican carry the Beretta 92 strong side IWB. Make sure you tighten the belt enough, but the B92, tends not to move around at all.

[Schuey2002]

Too bad I didn't buy a spare P7M8
Or you could have bought a spare firing pin & spring for just such an occassion. :p

[CWL]

The firing pin bushing is one of the most common parts to break on a P7M8.

Call HK customer service and complain to them, be insistent because cust. service quality is spotty, even though this is a common call that they get regarding the P7s.

HK should authorize a replacement part if you send in your broken part.

[tlhelmer]

Good luck with your carry gun issues. You must be one of the few in California to have a carry permit.

Are you gonna fix yours or get a new one?

[Skunkabilly]

The part broke, so I'm going to have to get a new part. Probably sell it once the Beretta 92G-SD comes around and I test carry my 92G to a wedding or funeral.

[cool45auto]

It's a sign dude! I told you you should have kept the Vertec and forget that HK nonsense!:neener:

Hope you get it fixed pretty quick. :)

[DragonRider]

I sent my P7PSP in the HK about a year ago, I got it back 2 weeks later. Good luck!

John

[Kenneth Lew]

# 1 rule with conceal carry: Have a spare gun thats the same as all guns will break eventually.

Kenneth Lew

[Tamara]

HK never did call back re: the replacement firing pin safety spring for my roomie's P7. Good thing my 'smith could wind one himself. :cool:

(Also good thing that my roomie has several good CCW guns and leather for all of them. ;) )

[chaim]

Skunk, why are you going to give up on the P7 after one relatively common parts breakage? Every gun make can break and every gun has weak points. Or, were you just looking for an excuse to get away from it and either return to 1911s or go back to carrying your beloved Berettas?

Anyway, since you have a nice holster on order for your Beretta you just need a stop gap while waiting on the new holster and/or your P7 gets fixed (or both). Seems to me the Unkle Mike's IWB would be perfect. You can probably get it for about $10. It has a velcro retention strap so even though it isn't all that good your gun still won't end up on the floor. It isn't ideal, but it should work fine for a short term stop gap and back up plan.

[Skunkabilly]

Giving up on the P7 because of the dinky slide stop (too difficult to clear Class 3 malfunctions under stress) which is my main complaint. That, and I shoot my Beretta better and can conceal it just as well.

I've broken a few Beretta parts--grip screws mostly.

[El Tejon]

You and your silly practicality. What are you El Tejon or something?

Yeah, but what about the coolness? Have you considered how cool the P7 looks?:confused: How cool is it to carry a DIFFERENT pistol?

When tacticoolness is factored P7 wins Handen down--Ubertactical.

[Serpico]

Sneakers are your best bet in class 3 malfunctions.....

[Kenneth Lew]

I've talked to someone that was actually involved in 3 self-defense (owns a check cashing establishment) shootings. When you gun fails during a SHTF scenario, you just do not have time to do a malfunction drill. Either run or get out another gun.

Ponder on this, on one scenario, the DA want to indict the business owner with manslaughter becuase he shot the robber twice with a 12 gauge (excessive force). That cost him 50k.

Kenneth Lew

[Marko Kloos]

My class 3 malfunction drill is to drop the primary gun and draw the backup. Works equally well with all guns, no matter how small the slide stop lever.

Skunky, I think you're trying to rationalize trading the P7 on something new. If you give in to the gun jones now, you'll be sorry later. You just don't get rid of a P7.

[Tamara]

You just don't get rid of a P7.

I can think of some folks who oughtta be durn glad that people can get rid of a P7... ;)

[Marko Kloos]

I took advantage of someone's temporary insanity. It'll wear off sooner or later, and the former owner will promise me her firstborn to get that P7M8 back into her collection.

[Oleg Volk]

Skunky,

Keep that P7 till you come over for a visit and we'll see about trading it for something, if you like. I've been wanting a P7 for years...even if I am not that likely to carry one anymore.

[harrydog]

Come on folks. The P7 is a fine weapon but the cult status that some have attached to it seems to cloud their reasoning.
I sold my P7 five or six years ago and I don't regret it one bit. If the gun has lost it's magical qualities for the Skunk, I see no good reason not to sell it and move on to something else.

[denfoote]

Skunk,
You really really need to get a 1911A1!!
Sorry I can't help ya out, buddy!! I never could see what all the fuss was about, carrying a gun you had to squeeze the S**T out of to get it to fire, and I sold my Beretta a couple of years back!!

[Skunkabilly]

OK I like the P7, don't get me wrong. It's scary accurate as heck for a gun that size. It's different and I don't find the manual of arms confusing. I got it when I was going for my carry permit because I thought the Beretta (basically I let all the crap I read online get to me :rolleyes: ) would be impossible to carry especially for someone my size. I eventually got a carry permit and carried both and find the Beretta works better.

So I still like the P7, but not sure what I'd use it for other than being a safe queen. I have always felt more confident with the Beretta. The P7 sure is a fun gun to have though.

[tiberius]

Unless, its a money issue, don't sell it. Like you said, its a quality pistol, you shoot it well, you may change your mind and want to carry it again.

[Rebel Gunman HK]

Hey Skunk!

Just watch the Letal weapon movies. Mel will show you some cool ways to carry yer 9! :evil:

[Skunkabilly]

Like the Mel Gibson roll-over prone shooting position? :confused: :rolleyes:

[Tamara]

So I still like the P7, but not sure what I'd use it for other than being a safe queen.

It's okay, Skunk, you ain't alone... :cool:

[Greg Bell]

It is hard to forget a failure. Thats why I don't carry Glocks or 1911s. People have loads of excuses but the guns just keep on jamming.:cool:

[WonderNine]

I have the same problem with the P7 as I do with SIGs, the barrel is just too short!!!

They can't balance very well either..... And that goofy squeeze cocker....hmmm...$700 for a road hard and put away wet P7M8? Nah, I think I'll buy a new BHP or 1911 instead.

[Skunkabilly]

Too short? It's 4"....

[Greg Bell]

Agreed, It is hard to beat the classic feel of a High-power. However, the P7 is actually very well balanced, all of the weight is in the grip and the barrel is very low. Still, the short muzzle (the barrel is actually a respectable 4.1 inches), does pose a problem to some of the off-the-shelf holster designs. OTOH, who wants to carry a work of art like the P7 in a "common" holster?

GHB

[WonderNine]

4" is too short for me.

[Tamara]

Not often you get to hear mass-produced sheet metal referred to as a "work of art." ;) :p

It's very finely-fitted Teutonic mass-produced sheet metal, mind you, but still it's no more a work of art than a P-226 or P-88... :D

[Greg Bell]

Actually, mass produced sheet metal is often referred to as art. Think about Mercedes, Porsche, Macintosh Computers, etc. Even Ferrari, Maybach and Lamborghini are "mass produced" now. In fact, several of the great art movements of the last century were centered around the idea of mass production and legitimacy in art.

Further, there is little or no "sheet metal" in the P7. The P7 is machined from a forging.

Still, perhaps I'm over-thinking this, maybe you just meant to make another casual insult.

[Marko Kloos]

Still, perhaps I'm over-thinking this, maybe you just meant to make another casual insult.

Perhaps I am under-thinking this, but I can't see where Tamara casually insulted anyone with her remark.

Good point about the cars, though. A Porsche or a Macintosh are indeed mass-produced sheet steel stampings, and I consider both works of art. Sometimes it's not what you use that makes the art, but what kind of shape and function you manage to make it into.

[Pilot]

Wondernine wrote:

"4" is too short for me."


Why?

[jerepowers]

The number one reason for carrying a P7 is your own safety. Not from a perp, but from your own hand. I'll bet the number of people who have shot themselves in the foot with a P7 is nil. For Glocks, the Saint Paul Police Department had five in a year before they took them off the streets. Glocks are fine guns, and if I had to outfit a small close-quarter military unit, they'd be my first choice. In a panic situation, I don't care if it is an 8 pouind trigger, things happen. People always say it wouldn't happen to them. I signed a cast of a guy who said the same thing.

[Justin]

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