1st Generations on the range


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pohill
June 15, 2009, 10:37 PM
My son and I went to the range today with the following guns:
.54 Belgian rifle/musket (made in 1859). I used 80 grs of Goex FFFG
.50 Hawkins (Traditions) My son used 80 grs of Pryodex FFG.
.36 Savage & North 20 grs BP
.36 Whitney 20 grs BP .380 roundball
.36 Uberti 1862 Pocket Police 20 grs BP. .380 roundball.

The Belgian is a smoothbore but pretty accurate up to 100 yds.
The Hawkins is amazingly accurate up to 100 yds. The plate in the pic is from an old Second Chance vest - the dents are from the .50 Hawkins.
The Savage & North has some ignition issues but still works well. A .380 ball is a little too small so I "bumped" the balls up with a hammer.
The Whitney works like a new replica - flawless.
The loading lever latch on the Uberti Pocket Police went flying.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/pohill/IMG_0931.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/pohill/IMG_0935.jpg

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Searcher1970
June 15, 2009, 10:49 PM
That Savage & North is really cool.

Ginormous
June 15, 2009, 11:29 PM
That old trauma plate appears to have done its' job quite well. Any idea what metal it's made from?

Oh, and since I ordered an uber cool Walker loading lever retention device in a patina finish from sltm1, I'll loan you my old Walker loading lever retaining device until you can get a new latch for your 1860.

No charge for it either. I'm generous like that. :)

http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww19/Ginormous_pics/DSCF1088-1.jpg

AdmiralB
June 15, 2009, 11:36 PM
The Belgian looks a lot like the 1857 "Mauser" Pedersoli sells.

Ratdog68
June 15, 2009, 11:44 PM
That's phunny stuff !! :evil:

pohill
June 16, 2009, 08:58 AM
Ginormous, what part of your Walker needs retention? I got some wheel blocks if you need them - no charge.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/pohill/medicalproductsdirect_2058_21012071.jpg

Dave Markowitz
June 16, 2009, 10:18 AM
Cool. I'd really be interested in seeing some more pics of the Savage and the Belgian rifle.

Ginormous
June 16, 2009, 11:03 AM
Well, Pohill, it's seems the Walker's wang keeps dropping. Now I know that's generally expected of a Walker, especially one as old as mine, but I believe you may be on to something here. Is that device available in an extra large version? I don't want to risk my Walker's wang on a light duty device here.

pohill
June 16, 2009, 01:25 PM
Well, Ginormous, at least it's not Drag-oon on the ground.
The Savage & North is an interesting gun - it'd be great to have a repro of it.
Remove the side plate and you can watch "all the action."
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/pohill/IMG_0254.jpg

It's no harder to assemble than a Remington or Colt
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/pohill/IMG_0429.jpg

The ring under the trigger is actually a lever that cocks the hammer and advances the cylinder.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/pohill/S4020016.jpg

scrat
June 16, 2009, 09:58 PM
wow good thread thanks for the laugh ginormous

BHP FAN
June 16, 2009, 10:58 PM
I wish they'd make a replica of a Pettingill pistol,or a Savage North.

pohill
June 16, 2009, 11:14 PM
I think the Pettingill became the Rogers & Spencer, while the Savage & North just faded away. It's a little more complicated than a Colt due to the gas seal between the cylinder and barrel. It's not as pretty or balanced as a Colt, but it's still interesting to shoot. I wonder how hard it would be to replicate.

Smokin_Gun
June 16, 2009, 11:25 PM
Pohill must be an Admiral's sidearm ya needs a Lieutenant to clean it... :O)

Great pic man ... I really like the Savage and North ... none were in my price range when I bought that '61 Rem. But I did look for one ...

pohill
June 16, 2009, 11:32 PM
When's the Remington coming?

Smokin_Gun
June 16, 2009, 11:36 PM
I sent the C.C. to IA yesturday, probly mid next week ... he'll let me know when it ships.
Can't wait... this may be the last Rem I will need to buy, maybe :O)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/1861%20Remington%20old%20Army/130951242g.jpg

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