New North Carolina hunting rules


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jdub102003
June 16, 2009, 06:11 PM
I was just informed by a friend that in North Carolina that starting this year you can now hunt on sunday's and hunt with a crossbow...I was just wondering how true this was? Does anyone know for sure?

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edelbrock
June 16, 2009, 06:36 PM
According to this it appears true.
http://www.ncwildlife.org/news_stories/pg00_NewsRelease/2009_10_public_hearing_booklet.pdf

dullh
June 16, 2009, 07:27 PM
I thought crossbow was only for people with a documented physical handicap...you mean anyone can use one now?

bpl
June 16, 2009, 08:23 PM
Anyone can use a crossbow now in PA as well. I think its ridiculous. Thats like hunting with a gun during archery season. Its much easier to aim and shoot a crossbow than to draw and aim a real bow.

dullh
June 17, 2009, 09:53 PM
"Its much easier to aim and shoot a crossbow than to draw and aim a real bow."

Therein lies the appeal.

I don't have either so doesn't matter to me, was just wondering about it.

wrs840
June 17, 2009, 10:08 PM
NC has a severe deer overpopulation problem. There's a raft of new rules coming in this season, including no limits on does, expanded bow seasons, Sunday hunting, etc. Supposedly the "authorities" have also reintroduced cougars into selected areas as a control experiment... There have been reports of a rash of cougar sightings in the local paper... The "authorities" say "not true"...

Les

countertop
June 17, 2009, 10:17 PM
Anyone can use a crossbow now in PA as well. I think its ridiculous. Thats like hunting with a gun during archery season. Its much easier to aim and shoot a crossbow than to draw and aim a real bow.


No offense to you BPL, but Hunters in Pennsylvania have a lot of hangups.

Its a wondering ya'll haven't lost the right completely, what with the overwhelming nature of nearly every Pennsylvania hunter I've ever had the misfortune of dealing with to criticize everything that isn't their preferred hunting preference.

BFE
June 18, 2009, 07:11 AM
Anyone can use a crossbow now in PA as well. I think its ridiculous. Thats like hunting with a gun during archery season. Its much easier to aim and shoot a crossbow than to draw and aim a real bow

You have no idea how wrong your statement really is. We as hunters should not be at odd's on what type of weapon one use's period. If you like or don't like a any type of weapon then simply don't use what it is you don't like and let others do the same.

shaggy430
June 18, 2009, 08:47 AM
We as hunters should not be at odd's on what type of weapon one use's period.

Agreed.

chas08
June 18, 2009, 11:45 AM
We as hunters should not be at odd's on what type of weapon one use's period.
AMEN!!! As long as it is deemed legal and ethical by a higher authority such as State Government, Fish and Wildlife Departments ...etc.

jdub102003
June 18, 2009, 12:22 PM
wonder if these laws will stick around for a few years...I will def have to get a crossbow. But there is a real overpopulation of whitetail ecspecially in halifax county.

sanerkeki
June 18, 2009, 12:24 PM
You can use Crossbow in Virginia too but no Sunday hunting.

hardluk1
June 18, 2009, 03:08 PM
bpl If you can't draw and pull a bow easily then your shooting to much pull. You should be able to pull your bow sitting in the cold and hold that bow for a couple minutes. Maybe a cross bow is better for some. Id don't want one but for those that do get it and hunt.

dullh
June 18, 2009, 06:20 PM
"NC has a severe deer overpopulation problem."

I'm not doubting you, but where I live (Buncombe County) that's news to me. I guess this overpopulation problem must be well east of me.

Everyone I know that hunts goes either to SC or GA...so it must not be that big of a problem.

kanook
June 19, 2009, 10:49 AM
If you can't draw and pull a bow easily then your shooting to much pullor all the tendons in my shoulder got fraid and my bicep got ripped and now due to how wonderful workers comp is my other shoulder suffers from massive tendonises. And untill you have hunted with a crossbow to find out it's not as easy as you think it is, you will find that it has alot more limits than a bow does. Range is not as far, alot more weight, much larger and more cumbersome to carry, and so on....

hardluk1
June 19, 2009, 11:53 AM
Kanook If you have a medical problem thats some different ,by your cross bow and crank up your bow and hunt You could also try swapping sides if your lucky ,i have one buddy that f'd up his shoulder and it about useless after to rounds with his doctor and gets some disability but can shoot right handed instead of left left and at 45 lbs pull so give that a try. What i said is still right if you can pull a bow then your shooting to much pull.--------------dulh I'm in yancey county and know what you mean about deer over here. Now go to the north east corner and it can be very diffent. We had a lease in bertie county and you could set out there and in a days time see maybe 25+ deer aday. Of those maybe 4 to 5 shooter bucks , atleast what most over this way would call shooters. Dumbies over here would shot anything with horns and don't report most of them. I have a ten point ,small but still a ten and 6 does that were around my little corner of the mountains last year .Just start'n to see them this year bucks still nubbies.

1/4MOA
June 19, 2009, 12:25 PM
just a little info for you NC guys......

you can find this info in the july issue of NC Sportsman page 15. the WildLife Commission propossed the bill (S7) to hunt with a gun on Sunday but that bill missed a deadline due to the number of people that opposed the bill. Basically it got shot dead in the water for the rest of the 2009 session.

As for Sunday archery...... That crossbow legislation for right now is hung up too. Before you decide to by one read the article for found on page 18 of the NC Sportsman July issue.

hardluk1
June 19, 2009, 01:41 PM
I thought thats what was going on ,atleast at this time but don't worry to much till season gets closer. Thanks.

salthouse
June 19, 2009, 04:37 PM
No offense to you BPL, but Hunters in Pennsylvania have a lot of hangups.

Its a wondering ya'll haven't lost the right completely, what with the overwhelming nature of nearly every Pennsylvania hunter I've ever had the misfortune of dealing with to criticize everything that isn't their preferred hunting preference.


HA! I had to laugh when I read that. As a PA hunter I have to agree completely with your assessment of the majority of PA hunters.

moosehunt
June 19, 2009, 06:25 PM
What's the deal with this no hunting on Sundays thing back east? That strikes me as pure industrial strength dumb! Allowing the average joe to hunt 1 day a week is insane and unjust. Hell, it's bad enough to only get 2 days a week, 5 work. I've always wondered why you guys don't do something about this hipocracy.

1/4MOA
June 20, 2009, 12:40 AM
its the bible belt. old timers always saved Sunday for church and believe that it truely was a day of rest. if they open Sundays up.... ill still go to church but church is from 10:30 to 12 ish..... theres still a lot of daylight left.

stonecoldy
June 20, 2009, 01:40 AM
I don't understand the hatred of crossbows. Cars and trucks harvest deer 24/7 on public roads, but who's complaining about a Honda Civic vs a Ford F150?

moosehunt
June 20, 2009, 10:53 AM
If someone wants to go sit in the church house, fine! Let 'em go! But why the hell have some antiquated hipocritical law preventing hunting on Sunday? The fact that a guy can't hunt doesn't mean he'll go listen to the preacher. I'd wager that it doesn't accomplish anything beyond preventing guys from enjoying the outdoors. Are there laws against anything else that are Sunday specific? Can you go fishing on Sunday? Why aren't the hunters out in force to get the crooks (politicians) to change the idiotic law?

paintballdude902
June 21, 2009, 10:40 PM
i dont understand the thing about sunday hunting. always caused problems for me when i was in school since i wouldnt ahve time to go out before school during the week and had homework and a job after school, so i really only had saturday to hunt i hated that. nice now though in college i wont have class on friday so i will have a 3 day week end to comeback home and hunt now i just have to buy a bow

BFE
June 22, 2009, 07:39 AM
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Posts: 729 If someone wants to go sit in the church house, fine! Let 'em go! But why the hell have some antiquated hipocritical law preventing hunting on Sunday? The fact that a guy can't hunt doesn't mean he'll go listen to the preacher. I'd wager that it doesn't accomplish anything beyond preventing guys from enjoying the outdoors. Are there laws against anything else that are Sunday specific? Can you go fishing on Sunday? Why aren't the hunters out in force to get the crooks (politicians) to change the idiotic law?

I live in Virginia myself and have had to put up with this all my life.
Every year it get's lobbied to let us hunt on Sunday and every year there is enough stupid can't change Sunday anti's that it never seems to get enough behind pro to make a change. Looks like it's getting closer every year but no cupid doll yet.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
June 24, 2009, 11:37 AM
Anyone can use a crossbow now in PA as well. I think its ridiculous. Thats like hunting with a gun during archery season. Its much easier to aim and shoot a crossbow than to draw and aim a real bow.

While I see your point, what's REALLY ridiculous is the law that says that you cannot use a crossbow DURING GUN season! Why not? A gun is much easier than a crossbow. My preference would be that you cannot use a crossbow during archery season (unless handicapped), but that you CAN use a crossbow during both Muzzleloader and Gun seasons.

BFE
June 26, 2009, 04:04 PM
Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow Quote:
Anyone can use a crossbow now in PA as well. I think its ridiculous. Thats like hunting with a gun during archery season. Its much easier to aim and shoot a crossbow than to draw and aim a real bow.

While I see your point, what's REALLY ridiculous is the law that says that you cannot use a crossbow DURING GUN season! Why not? A gun is much easier than a crossbow. My preference would be that you cannot use a crossbow during archery season (unless handicapped), but that you CAN use a crossbow during both Muzzleloader and Gun seasons.

All things considered we are losing hunters every year and if using a crossbow would make it easyer for some to get into or stay in our sport I see no reason to fault it for what it is. I also feel that we should not be faulting anyway of hunting as long as it's hunting and someone want's to hunt that way why not let them do as they want & you do it the way you want. We as hunters need to mind our own before barking others way of hunting, I am sure it was lobbied and talked about enough to make one go crazy listening to some of it so why now instead of during. Happy hunting to all except the anti's coming after us.

Speedo66
June 26, 2009, 05:56 PM
No Sunday Hunting: So much for the separation of church and state.

As far as crossbows, anything that would take the deer population down in southern NY would be appreciated. They're regarded as pests in most downstate counties by non hunters. Not NYC though, they don't have to deal with them, and deer=Bambi.

If most upstate residents (anything north of the Bronx border) liked deer before, after they collide with one in a car, have their spring bulb flowers eaten, have their pricey shrubs devastated, and find they're a carrier of deer ticks (lyme disease) they come to be regarded as pests. Westchester Co., the northern border with NYC is inundated with them and no gun hunting allowed in the county. Bring on the crossbows.

Getting back to the original post: I was in SC recently and all the new rules (including a salt water fishing license) are in the state guide that comes with a hunting or fishing license. Get it at any shop that sells licenses.

moosehunt
June 27, 2009, 02:30 AM
I like your thoughts, though if you're from the west, your deer population comments are hard to visualize. I drew a deer tag this year, finally after 8 years of no tag.

Separation of church and state? All we have going on between democratats and republicans in this country is church oriented--well maybeso only 90%. Can anyone show me a war/conflict going on in the world now that is NOT religion oriented? That includes the activities in Iraq and Afghanistan. Regardless of all the poppicock spread in the media, they are purely religious wars! Christian vs Muslims--Muslims vs Jews--Christian vs Jews--not to mention all the conflict between factions within each--indeed that is perhaps the biggest rip! Here in the US it's mostly "I read the bible and it says"-- opposed to "oh no, that's not what it says" Where in the US Constitution (or, for that matter, the Declaration of Independance) does it mention anything about what the "bible" says? No where! No where!

Spay & neuter your kids!

Water-Man
June 27, 2009, 11:48 AM
A BIG +1 moosehunt!

paintballdude902
June 27, 2009, 03:08 PM
the new regulations digest is out at all places you can get a license

doesnt look like a whole lot has changed. most of the propesed ones didnt happen, crossbows didnt happen

Speedo66
June 27, 2009, 05:50 PM
Moosehunt says "your deer population comments are hard to visualize".

I have deer passing through my suburban property every day, I'm about 15 miles north of the NYC border. Sometimes they lay down in my backyard and sunbath, at least when they're not eating my shrubs.

You can walk to within about 20 feet of them before they start getting a little nervous. Not bounding away tail up, just start looking at you, and the tail twitches a little.

I yell at them and clap my hands loudly but they continue eating my bushes until I walk rapidly towards them. All open fields at dusk are loaded with them.

Few people hunt with bows here, NYS rules require 500 feet from houses, etc. even with a bow, no gun hunting allowed in this county. No natural enemies, excpt maybe an occasional coyote taking a small fawn. They thrive on grass and bushes. We're seriously populated with deer, dead deer all over the highways. Not as bad as some of the wild pig/boar stories I read here though.

I like to see deer when I'm hunting, not when they're local pests.

JWF III
June 27, 2009, 06:02 PM
Are there laws against anything else that are Sunday specific?

Kind of off topic, but here's an answer to the question above. In Georgia you cannot buy alcohol on Sundays. There is some type of exception to "by the drink" alcohol sales. But if you want a six-pack of your favorite brew, you better remember to buy it on Saturday.

(Of course if you know a convenience store clerk well enough, you can buy "bootlegged" alcohol on Sunday for $20 or so (a six-pack) out the back door of the store.)

Wyman

ETA-That's just another draconian law we Georgians are trying to get reversed.

paintballdude902
June 28, 2009, 12:19 AM
yeah here in nc there is no sale of alcohol between midnight and noon on sunday

there are a few laws in most states originally established because of church, though now the number of people believing in other religions or none at all is growing so they affect alot of other people for no reason

moosehunt
June 28, 2009, 01:17 AM
But you can go fishing on Sunday, just no hunting! That makes real good sense! Totally logical!

Spay & neuter your kids!

paintballdude902
June 28, 2009, 01:46 AM
hey..... not cool to say i love my attachements and use them as ofton as possible. i wanna have kids in about 10 years when i turn 30. i may spay and neuter them but while my parents are paying for school they call the shots so keep your trap closed please :)

dont worry my kids will be stuck in the woods ofton and reading books about Ron Paul so ill learn em right god i hope its in atleast 5 years though



hmmmmm.... fishing sounds fun for the AM the strippers are running

moosehunt
June 28, 2009, 02:40 AM
Well, opinions are like butt holes, we all have 'em, and here's mine: Wait about 50 years after you're 30 to think about having kids, then you'll have a better viewpoint and make a better decision! Each to his own!

Help same America! Spay & neuter your kids!

stiab
July 5, 2009, 01:31 AM
But why the hell have some antiquated hipocritical law preventing hunting on Sunday? Can you go fishing on Sunday?

It's not just about church, and there is a huge distinction between hunting and fishing. Sunday is currently the only day that non-hunters can use the woods for hiking, birding, nature study, etc., without fear of interrupting a hunter. If someone is fishing in a lake on Sunday, other people can still use that same lake to swim, water ski, jet ski, etc. If someone is hunting a section of woods on Sunday, there is not other use that can be made of that land.

Don't get me wrong, I'm on this forum because I'm a hunter, but to understand the issue you have to realize it is about much more than missing church, and the fishing analogy just doesn't fit.

moosehunt
July 5, 2009, 06:55 PM
Depending on the area, i.e. season length, they have about 11 months that have no hunting. Based on the average joe who gets Saturday & Sunday off, that gives those folks 2 days a week for 11 months, but 1 day a week for a month for the hunter! And a lot of joes work Monday thru Saturday, hence no hunting days! Real fair! And what of private land? I understand that there is a lot of that back east, where these laws seem to prevail.

stiab
July 6, 2009, 04:13 PM
they have about 11 months that have no hunting
Not sure where that is, but I don't want to live there!! This thread is about NC, and that is certainly not the case here, thank goodness.

1/4MOA
July 16, 2009, 02:10 AM
Well heck ill chime in for a second too . . . . . I talked to a local biologist the other day and he stated that a lot of the rules got held up in the senate for the hole giving sunday to non-hunters thing.

NOW ILL STATE MY PROBLEM WITH THAT>>>>>

My hunting club leases about 8500 acres in Sampson and Pender Co. Non-hunters are not allowed on the property. We will have you charged with tresspassing. Its private land. With that being said why shouldn't you be able to hunt on private land on sundays if i control who goes on that land????? Bureaucratic B.S. Anyway, i could rant on for days about this crap.

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