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PattonTime
June 17, 2009, 12:27 PM
Hi, what do any of you know about this gun
one of my local dealers has one in the case at $695.00
it looks like new but has no box
He is famous for not being willing to dicker on price
I suspect this is consignment because I doubt he would be that high
He has several nice Hi-Powers for under $600.00 and a brand new one in
polished blue at $899.00, he also has five Colt mark three Troopers at low prices
Well, any way is it worth it for what I have heard is the strongest 357 mag
out there ?

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rcmodel
June 17, 2009, 12:46 PM
I know they weigh almost as much as some of my rifles!

The bigbore .44 version is heavy at 50+ oz, but the smallbore .357 is really heavy!

Not a pack'n gun I would care to carry on a belt, IMO.

rc

Walkalong
June 17, 2009, 01:43 PM
I have not seen any good examples for that price around here. A little pricey still though. How long are you willing to wait to find a scarce gun at a better price than that?

I would like to have one, being a Redhawk fan.

Ben Shepherd
June 17, 2009, 01:49 PM
At that price it better be 95% or better condition.

It's one of those things in life........

If you WANT one and it's in excellent shape, snag it.

If it's one of those "would like to one day" guns, I'd pass.

Just realize it may be awhile before you see another one for sale. I'm only 35, and mine won't be avalible for sale for another 40 or 50 years.:D Most folks that have them aren't letting go, and are usually looking for another to buy.

CTSigLover
June 17, 2009, 06:32 PM
A little pricey still though.

I respectfully disagree...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=129443492

This used one went for over a grand on Gunbroker recently... granted the owner claimed it was unfired, and I have no reason to doubt his veracity, but with 42 bids, I would say this auction fairly represents the true national market value of that revolver at that time. (Being of course the maximum amount which someone else is willing to pay.)

They are perfect for load testing... and Ruger is not making them anymore.

For that price in that condition, I say grab it...

buck460XVR
June 17, 2009, 06:53 PM
Do you want it for a shooter or a safe queen? For about the same price I can get a NIB 686 with a lifetime warranty...........

PattonTime
June 17, 2009, 10:26 PM
Actually, I only want it because I don't have one. I need another 357 mag like a hole in the head. However I know they don't make them anymore and this one is Mint !!!
I wish it had the box though because I know Ruger collecters can be nuts for boxes.
I saw one (a box) go for $400.00 on Gunbroker I was amazed.
I do think the lines are kind of nice though I hear alot of complaints about triggers.
I will share the dealers name and number if anyone wants it, or maybe I will trade for it.
Who knows!!!

sparkyguy66
June 18, 2009, 07:56 AM
I looked for one a few months back, the ones available weren't worth the asking price. They are a solid gun for building up heavy loads when reloading. I don't see any other practical use for them. Too heavy to carry in woods or for protection. I ended up buying a S&W model 27-2 for $705. Does everything I wanted the Redhawk for, plus it's finish is way better, trigger is way better, and it's value is only going up as well.
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/58/l_432fb2a6f1d94fa88885265f5586d88e.jpg

Master Blaster
June 18, 2009, 07:58 AM
I saw one (a box) go for $400.00 on Gunbroker I was amazed for an early model flat top blackhawk with screws??

Its probably a good price if you really want that gun since they are fairly rare, but its gonna be one heavy mutha, and using it as a test platform for overloads really is not a good idea....

sparkyguy66
June 18, 2009, 08:38 AM
Hmm. A little too fast on the reply there..two minutes after I posted. I think you better re-read what I posted, as you got too anxious to correct me. I said building up heavy loads when reloading, not OVERloads.:rolleyes:

Walkalong
June 18, 2009, 09:00 AM
A little pricey still though.

I respectfully disagree...A little pricey IMHO. How about that. ;)

I also think Model 16 .32 Mags are too pricey, but that isn't going to change either. :(

If you WANT one and it's in excellent shape, snag it.

If it's one of those "would like to one day" guns, I'd pass.
I agree.

cottonmouth
June 18, 2009, 11:08 AM
I think I paid $400 for mine a two or three years ago. It's in exelent shape but came with no box. As far as weight, I don't think it's too heavy and like someone mentioned, it can take the hotest .357 loads with no problem. I have loaded some that you will never see in a manual that recoiled like .38's out of an N frame Smith & Wesson.

J.B.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b162/cottonmouth_/HPIM2397.jpg

Ben Shepherd
June 18, 2009, 02:42 PM
Unfired would be worth a grand or slightly higher. But once fired, it's fired, and the value drops accordingly. I paid 800 for an NIB blued 7.5" 41 redhawk 2 years ago, and thought it a good price.

A fired redhawk in either 41 or 357 at $700 is right at the top of what they are worth.

I think what we see with the winning bid on gunbroker is someone that decided they wanted one, period, and price wasn't the issue.

CTSigLover
June 18, 2009, 03:16 PM
I think what we see with the winning bid on gunbroker is someone that decided they wanted one, period, and price wasn't the issue.

Perhaps that was the case, but more than one person had to bid the gun up that high. If you look at the bid history, you had three people bidding over $800, and two at $1,000 or better. Those last two really wanted it.

It just goes to prove the old economics adage... "Something's monetary value is exactly as much as someone else will pay you for it."

Just as a clarification for my education... if you are not buying from an FFL as the first transferee of a gun, is it proper to classify the gun as NIB? Even unfired, if it had been transfered before would it not be more properly described as LNIB? Just want to make sure I use the proper terminology.

Ben Shepherd
June 18, 2009, 04:29 PM
The term NIB usually means unfired, but in some cases folks use the term to denote that the hammer hasn't been cocked/cylinder hasn't been turned.

It's a slightly subjective term, and the exact meaning usually gets hashed out between the buyer and seller.

edit: clarification

cottonmouth
June 19, 2009, 01:57 AM
I wonder if some of the sellers on these auction sites have other accounts or friends that bid the price higher to get more money for an item.

J.B.

eldon519
June 19, 2009, 01:32 PM
Everything coming from the factory these days has been fired already.

highlander 5
June 21, 2009, 05:34 PM
I bought mine 25 years ago from a shop in Maine.
Paid 350. It had trigger job done on it,my only complaint is the previous owner had used a scope mount that put a gouge in the crane.probably can be fixxed easily but why bother,to me it gives the gun charactor.
I believe that only 5000 Redhawks were made in 357

Walkalong
June 21, 2009, 06:01 PM
It's a slightly subjective termVery subjective....There, fixed it for you Ben. :D

It is pitiful what some folks call "Like new" or "Mint".........:banghead:

Ben Shepherd
June 21, 2009, 07:20 PM
I believe that only 5000 Redhawks were made in 357

That's about right according to Ruger.

mrt949
June 23, 2009, 04:56 PM
Had one for IHMSA silhouette .Loaded 35 caliber rifle bullet's in 38 special cases.:D

cottonmouth
June 24, 2009, 04:12 AM
Still got the load data?

J.B.

snooperman
June 24, 2009, 12:41 PM
Ben Shepherd is correct . Not many Redhawks made in .357 magnum, hence the high price.

mrt949
June 24, 2009, 05:49 PM
COTTONMOUTH sorry I sold it all as a package deal pistol , and reloading stuff.BUT check IHMSA web site a lot of shooters use it FREEDOM ARMS 357 MAG.Thats where i found the info many years ago .1988.GOOD LUCK MRT949 :D

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