This is Jabir: Policeman by Day, Terroist by Night


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Jeff White
October 20, 2003, 07:29 PM
London Sunday Telegraph
October 19, 2003

This Is Jabir: Policeman By Day, Terrorist By Night

As US post-war casualties in Iraq hit treble figures, Damien McElroy meets a uniformed officer who plans the very attacks on American soldiers that he is paid to prevent

By day, Jabir Said is a uniformed officer in Iraq's new police force. Recruited by the Americans, given responsibility for guarding the local mayor, he sits in quietly on liaison meetings with US troops.

By night, the coalition loyalist returns home to change into a long white gown and blend back in with the local resistance - planning and taking part in the very attacks on American soldiers that he is paid to prevent.

Despite his double life, Jabir, 29, says that he does not hate foreigners but he cannot tolerate an occupation that has split the country "between Sunni, Shia, Kurd and Jew".

Jabir, who has a three-year-old daughter, accepted work with the Iraqi police to provide his family with the income that their small farm cannot generate. The American-led government in Baghdad has raised police wages, hoping to build a loyal corps of officers. It has not worked with Jabir.

"I have good relations with the American soldiers in my work but I live in a different situation," he said. "The Americans have given us nothing - no jobs and no hopes. They are thieves. They break into our houses without warning and stand on our heads. This is why the people are getting more hurt and more angry. This is why we want revenge."

The uncertain loyalties of men such as Jabir, who are being paid to help the coalition restore order especially in the Sunni Triangle area west of Baghdad, have contributed to the sagging morale of the US military in Iraq. On Friday, the number of American troops killed in the post-war period topped 100 after a roadside bomb in Baghdad. Attacks average between 22 and 30 on any given day.

Months into his dual role as daytime coalition ally and night-time saboteur in the heart of the Sunni Triangle west - which remains largely loyal to Saddam Hussein - Jabir has experienced both the highs and lows of underground resistance. On Friday his village, on the eastern bank of the Tigris, was mourning a woman shot dead in the courtyard of her home, from where the local resistance had launched a mortar attack on the nearby military base.

Earlier, the self-declared mujaheddin, or freedom fighter, had been elated by a "successful" operation launched against the occupying forces. Jabir helped to carry out a daring attack on an American convoy that was led, he said, by a former Iraqi general and three Syria Fedayeen fanatics.

A contact in Baghdad with an acquaintance in the village had supplied the initial tip-off that Jabir was willing to talk. Jabir, who asked The Sunday Telegraph to change his name, claimed that a roadside bomb was detonated under four Humvee vehicles and two lorries before five locals - including Jabir - fired rocket-propelled grenades and a Russian-made heavy machinegun into the stranded convoy.

"The resistance here is growing stronger every day," Jabir said. "First because Americans are occupiers and we will fight them until they leave the country, and second we fight to return Saddam Hussein to power because he is the only man who can return Iraq back to safety within an hour."

When he first wore the armband of the Iraqi police, Jabir was accused of collaboration. To win the trust of his underground comrades, he allowed a car to pass a joint Iraqi-American checkpoint although he saw guns and ammunition in the boot.

"At work the Americans ask us to supply information on who is behind the attacks but I can't because I would be betraying my brothers and cousins," he said. "Even last week they came and asked the mayor who was in the ambush. I stood there and said nothing." Instead, Jabir turns over intelligence about the Americans to a resistance cell.

He believes the resistance will triumph because members are willing to die. "My mother encourages me," he said. "My friends ask to go on an operation the night before their weddings. They don't care about their lives."

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esheato
October 20, 2003, 08:54 PM
It's downright disgusting. Saddam did deserve to be removed, but other than that, what can you do? You can't leave them alone and you can't stay there forever...

rock jock
October 21, 2003, 12:24 AM
You can't leave them alone
You can't? If some thug threatens you and you shoot him, are you then obligated to take care of his family? Do you really think even if we are successful in putting that ****hole of a country back in order that the people won't hate us?

LawDog
October 21, 2003, 01:32 AM
Hmm.

How trustworthy is the newspaper that printed this, or the reporter that filed the story?

LawDog

agricola
October 21, 2003, 02:37 AM
lawdog,

the Telegraph family of papers are somewhat old-style Tory in outlook, and are not above overpresenting one side of an argument to make a point (one recalls enough "crime is out of control" articles to evidence that).

with regards to the article itself, i will say it again but there is precisely no value in the US remaining within the "Sunni Triangle" - divide the country into three zones - the US and Kurds controlling the north, a muslim country (personally I would choose Saudi Arabia) and the Sunnis controlling the middle and the Shia, with some British assistance, controlling the South.

esheato
October 21, 2003, 02:57 AM
What I meant by you can't leave them alone is that the govt will never leave them alone. Sure the idea is great, leave them alone and sooner or later they'll all kill themselves, but it'll never happen and with the UN on our backs for world peace, and us basically being the UN, we're 'obligated' to take care of these idiots.

I'm glad Saddam was taken out, and he was eradicated for our reasons, but they don't even want us there...

esheato..

KC
October 21, 2003, 04:34 AM
"...we fight to return Saddam Hussein to power because he is the only man who can return Iraq back to safety within an hour."

Wow. Slave mentality at work.

Dilettante
October 21, 2003, 05:24 AM
How does the reporter know that "Jabir" isn't making this all up?
Or at least wildly fabricating parts of it?

TarpleyG
October 21, 2003, 11:04 AM
"The Americans have given us nothing - no jobs and no hopes. They are thieves. They break into our houses without warning and stand on our heads. This is why the people are getting more hurt and more angry. This is why we want revenge."
So did this ingrate even HAVE a job before the war???

GT

Spark
October 21, 2003, 11:31 AM
Yeah, he probably maintained the plastic chipper

FPrice
October 21, 2003, 11:35 AM
" How does the reporter know that "Jabir" isn't making this all up?
Or at least wildly fabricating parts of it? "

How do we know that the reporter isn't making all this up? This would not be the first time that a reporter has "created" a story and a character to make a point.

Futo Inu
October 21, 2003, 02:01 PM
I believe there is absolutely no excuse for us losing the propoganda war (as this man's attitude demonstrates amply that we have). We can control the media and anything else we want to control there. It is an utter dismal failure of policy on the US gov't part that we have not undertaken an all-out propoganda assault to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people. IMO. Either get some propoganda experts in there and go to work, or get the hell out, and let the UN take over. It's Europe's backyard, anyway.

Quartus
October 21, 2003, 02:17 PM
Futo, I think you underestimate the fervor of Islam. You aren't going to change minds with a few months (or years) of propaganda. All Saddam has to do is PRETEND, very transparently, to be a Muslim, and they will follow him and believe anything he says, no matter how ridiculous.


As for letting the U.N. take over, there IS one serious drawback. We won't control the oil.

agricola
October 21, 2003, 02:56 PM
Quartus,

Which is why the US should leave the troublesome, largely oil-free areas to the Saudis to deal with, while the oil-rich, quieter, and altogether nicer parts and their Kurd and Shia populations are rewarded with their independence. This has to be done now.

In fact, it is massively in the interest of the US to promote an oil-rich, egalitarian and friendly Shia state controlling Shia shrines, if for no other reason than the massive destablizating factor it would have on Iran, of course mostly consisting of Shia Muslims.

Zundfolge
October 21, 2003, 03:54 PM
Jabir, who has a three-year-old daughter, accepted work with the Iraqi police to provide his family with the income that their small farm cannot generate. The American-led government in Baghdad has raised police wages...

The Americans have given us nothing - no jobs and no hopes.

I'll let those two quotes stand on their own.

:banghead:

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