best commander sized 1911?


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S&WMP45
June 20, 2009, 04:30 PM
lets hear some owner reviews of what you think is the best commander size1911 brand, and why.

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Lone_Gunman
June 20, 2009, 04:39 PM
S&W 1911s are my favorite, including commander sized guns. I have a Gunsite Model S&W 1911 PD, which is commander sized. It is a very nice pistol.

Colt 1911's are my second favorite. The LW commander I have is very good also.

As for Kimbers, I have had uniformly bad experience with them. I think Kimber customer service is the worst in the industry. Some people claim to have reliable Kimbers, but much like the Yeti or his North American cousin Saskwatch, until I see one, I cannot believe they exist.

earlthegoat2
June 20, 2009, 04:59 PM
As a rule I really dont like 4" barrels as opposed to 4 1/4." It really makes a difference. That narrows it down a little to mostly Colt, Para Ordinance, and SW. I love the SW1911PD. That is a sweet pistol from the one that I handled but did not shoot. The best one I have shot was a LW Colt in 38 Super. I have never owned any 1911 except a Commander length and probably never will. They were all Paras so my nod goes to them. I am still looking for that Colt LW Commander in 38 Super though.

I forgot to mention Dan Wesson. The Commander Bobtail (CBOB maybe) feels absolutely awesome in the hand. They make a few others too.

modifiedbrowning
June 20, 2009, 05:02 PM
I have a SW 1911Sc Commander that has been great so far. I have a Colt LW Commander on layaway as well, but have not shot it yet obviously.

S&WMP45
June 20, 2009, 05:15 PM
i was thinking of the scandium smith, but the gun shop i shoot at told me they stopped selling them due to problems.

they said customers were brinqing them back with broken parts, and the range rental one developed a crack in the scandium fame.

i hear pretty good reviews online, and was supprised to hear all this. i like smith's customer serv and quality, wish i could know for sure who's right lol

i hear the same bad things about kimbers from every gun shop i go to, they tell me to avoid them, and i believe them, as 99% of the used 1911's i see for sale are kimber

BCCL
June 20, 2009, 06:16 PM
I have a Dan Wesson Patriot Commander that has been a very good pistol.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m103/Bear_Claw_Chris_Lappe/Gun%20Collection/Dan%20Wesson/PT-CIvoryUpload.jpg

S&WMP45
June 20, 2009, 06:45 PM
yeah those dan wesson's are pretty nice

kentucky_smith
June 20, 2009, 07:29 PM
At this moment my money would go toward a Dan Wesson cbob or Fusion build.


http://www.shepsworld.com/1911build/bobcat3.jpg

weisse52
June 20, 2009, 07:41 PM
Based on what I have owned and shot I say Colt Commaner or Combat Commander.
(Now did anyone think I woud say different)
Solid pistol with great support. I love the finish of the older ones better, but the new ones are still excellent.
The next 1911 I buy will be a 80 series Colt Commander.

SCKimberFan
June 20, 2009, 07:45 PM
STI Guardian.

Dr.Rob
June 20, 2009, 08:10 PM
Colt series 70 Combat Commander in matte stainless.

You trade the weight of steel for aluminum, but it's a little more robust. .45 cal of course. I don't need front serrations or a memory bump on a 1911.

Frank Ettin
June 20, 2009, 08:13 PM
I like my Nighthawk Talon IIs and my Ed Brown Kobra Carry.

Maj Dad
June 20, 2009, 08:57 PM
I have an 80 series Combat Commander I bought in the 80s, that has had a world-class action and trigger job and Heine front & rear sights by Alex Hamilton at Ten-Ring Precision in San Antonio (former American Pistolsmiths' Guild president; none better - as good, sure, but none better). I installed a Wilson stainless beavertail safety, Pachmayr Signature Wraparound grips and Wolff Springs all around. It is the benchmark for Combat Commanders as far as I'm concerned. It shoots everything I feed it and groups are in the 2" or less range at 25 yds in Weaver stance. I use Tetra lube and grease exclusively and function and performance are flawless and superb, respectively and totally. I know there are machines out there that are its equal, but this one is mine - and it rocks.
Semper 45!
Maj Dad

Clarence
June 20, 2009, 09:09 PM
Ed Brown Kobra Carry or Special Forces

S&WMP45
June 20, 2009, 11:30 PM
ed brown is some serious stuff, wish i could afford one lol. i should've mentioned i'm not looking to spend more than $950. i really like the dan wesson cbob, hand fit from the ground up, it's just awsome, can't find one for sale though

as for colt, i've seen tighter slide to frame fits on cheaper 1911's, like my para gi expert (great gun for the money). colt's are certainly nice, and they're built to generous tolerances like john browning designed it. but i've seen the colt xse commanders in 2 different gun shops, and did not think they are worth $900.

it almost seemed of as if they were from 2 different manufacturers: 1 had a much nicer slide to frame fit and a noticeably lighter trigger pull than the other, and one (brand new) even had the ambi safety really loose and coming off the gun! this does not speak well for colt's quality control!

Quack
June 21, 2009, 12:24 AM
i love my Kobra Carry, but for your budget a CBOB would be my pick. try budsgunshop, they get them in regularly, but sell out the same day.

S&WMP45
June 21, 2009, 12:31 AM
yeah i can't get through to bud's on the phone! (due to extremely high call volume) i tried to order the dan wesson cbob the other day.

they get such a short supply you can only order them over the phone, not online.

9mmepiphany
June 21, 2009, 12:58 AM
i think the best buys in that size are the Dan Wesson CBOB or S&W 1911Sc.

i would always choose a 4.25" barrel over the 4"...just for that extra timing reliability margin

S&WMP45
June 21, 2009, 01:17 AM
the gun shop/shooting range i go to says their rental s&w 1911sc had a cracked frame and a bunch of other probs. they also said they stopped selling smith 1911's because cust's kept bringing them back with probs. i wonder whats up with that, because i read nothing but good stuff about them online, and was thinking of getting one

GoodKat
June 21, 2009, 02:05 AM
i love my Kobra Carry
That's like saying you think ice is cold.

Ruggles
June 21, 2009, 03:01 AM
For your price range I would go with the Colt Commander.

bac1023
June 21, 2009, 08:20 AM
Depending on the price range, it wouldn't be any of the production guns. It would be a nice custom build or semi custom model.

rduckwor
June 21, 2009, 08:25 AM
For the money, DW CBOB. You can spend more, but doubtful you would get more.

RMD

distra
June 21, 2009, 08:29 AM
These are my favorite Commander 1911's. One is S&W 1911sc Bobtailed by Jess at Ontarget Custom Gun works, the other is a Ti Caspian frame, stainless slide with lots of goodies inside. For the money it's hard to beat a S&W 1911.

S&Wsc
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu129/distra/DSCN3564.jpg

Caspian Ti
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu129/distra/IMG_0015.jpg

bestseller92
June 21, 2009, 08:32 AM
I hear good things about the Springfield Champion series.

Quack
June 21, 2009, 10:56 AM
Uh Oh...Bac's here :D

Legasat
June 21, 2009, 04:28 PM
I am looking in the ~ $1000 price range also, and the Dan Wesson CBOB is looking beter and better.

hinton03
June 22, 2009, 07:30 AM
I bought a new Colt 1991 Commander for a project gun and it was so nice I had to think twice about sending it off to the smith. It was tight, accurate and the trigger was super. If you don't care for the polymer MSH you can buy the gun new, replace the MSH and buy a quality holster for your 950 dollar budget.

S&WMP45
June 22, 2009, 05:27 PM
just bought a champion operator for $725, it was used but never fired-screamin deal!

rellascout
June 22, 2009, 06:51 PM
under $1000 NIB the Dan Wesson CBOB wins... The only downside to the CBOB is it is heavy compared to a light weight alum framed gun. But its upsides still make it the best commander value on the market.

Get a good holster and a good belt and you will be fine.

capttom
June 22, 2009, 07:25 PM
I was dissatisfied with a Kimber. I've done no more than handle a CBOB. For my money, I'd stick with the Colt. I'd look at it closely, though, to make sure the quality was there.

HexHead
June 22, 2009, 07:34 PM
Since the OP didn't mention price, I'm pretty partial to my NCH Talon II Bobtail. ;)

As for a S&W, Sig, Wesson or any 1911 with an external extractor, No thanks.

rellascout
June 22, 2009, 07:46 PM
Wesson

If you are referring to a Dan Wesson they are 70 series patterned guns. no external extractor.

If you were going semi-custom NightHawk would not be on the list. Much more hit or miss than people like Ed Brown, Les Baer, Wilson....

Rimcrew
June 22, 2009, 08:30 PM
I think the best VALUE is the DW CBOB, by far! It is full of Ed Brown parts, and is priced at half of the EB bobtail. It's very accurate and equally reliable - at least mine has been so far.

As for Colts, I am not a fan...

MICHAEL T
June 23, 2009, 12:02 AM
Dan Wesson or Colt . Don't worry about the slide to frame looseness where it counts the Colt is tight

71Commander
June 23, 2009, 08:06 AM
A pre 80 series 71 Combat Commander (hence, my namesake)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/Colt-c-a.jpg

Or a Dan Wesson CBOB.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/2f61531a.jpg

HammerheadSSN663
June 23, 2009, 10:07 PM
I love my Colt 4.25" Commander and CBOB.

Colt pros:
Compared to my standard series 70's the Commander 80 is very smooth and tight (for a Colt). The 70s are rattle traps by comparison. Plus parts are abundant.


DW CBOB pros:
Fit, finish, 100% perfect. Only trouble is that I'm not sure how to order replacement parts without going to the manufacturer. I'm sure most all the parts are interchangeable with other 4.25" parts, but I'm not quite sure.

Quack
June 23, 2009, 10:21 PM
the CBOB small parts are Ed Brown parts. so if you need a replacement, you just need to buy Ed Brown parts.

S&WMP45
June 23, 2009, 11:51 PM
UPDATE:

i bought a springfield champion operator for $725, used, but never fired!

no marks anywhere-is brand new for all intents and purposes!

haven't picked it up yet, will on thurs

Rimcrew
June 24, 2009, 12:46 AM
I just changed my mind. It's not a true Commander, but the DW CCO is my new fav in a Commander length slide. It is one very nice piece of equipment.

The fit and finish is great, and it is oh so concealable. I think I am in love. :D

S&WMP45
July 3, 2009, 06:52 PM
does the frame on the colt xse lw commander gouge at the feed ramp from bullets hitting it from the mag?

i noticed it doesn't have an intergral ramp on the barrel, and some alloy frame 1911's are known for this.

wditto
July 4, 2009, 12:46 PM
if one were to want a "commander" size weapon, why wouldn't one buy a Commander ?

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