Is there a method to your madness?


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Ohio Gun Guy
June 22, 2009, 12:24 AM
Over the last 2-3 years I have changed the way I look at my measly collection of guns. In the below outline, I tried to document my though processes on what I am buying and why. My ideas come mainly from this THR website, although in scattered bits and pieces. I tried to combine things that resonated with me and put them into a logical process that evaluates my current collection and future purchases with the goal of having an organized, interesting, useful, and complete collection. Please review and discuss if this is of any help or interest to any of you.

How do I organize and categorize my guns?
1) Range / Distance (Yards: 0-50, 0-100, 100-300, 200-400, 300-600)
2) Primary Uses (See Reasons)
3) Secondary Uses (See Reasons)
4) Function (Bolt, Semi-automatic, & Pump / lever)
5) Caliber (Redundancy, Availability, Common caliber)

What are the main “REASONS” I own guns?
1) Home defense & Emergency Events (Protect family, Community, & Country)
2) Hobby (Develop Skills, Entertainment, Heirloom, History, & Collecting)
3) Practice / training
4) Hunting (Heritage, Wildlife Preservation / Management, Supplement food, & Survival)

What tools do I need to have available to myself and others for these purposes?
1) Myself (Primary)
2) Family (Back-up)
3) Community (Spare)

In practice and in thinking through the above process, I have come up with what works for me. Without outlining my complete collection and writing a book to explain it; this is my thought process for how I got started (Below is an example).

First, I looked into what I had in my collection. I had available several World War Two surplus rifles. These fit into my organization above by in the 200-400 yard range and satisfied available surplus ammunition. They could be used for Community and National defense if it got that bad, and could also be used as a hunting firearm. They were originally acquired to satisfy a more entertainment / history function. What this process made me realize is, these WW2 rifles did not satisfy my number one concern, protection of my family. While better than nothing, a bolt action long gun in a massive caliber is not an ideal home protection firearm and they are not ideal in comparison to newer designs for the other non collecting purposes either. I needed a shotgun or handgun or BOTH. I also needed to address the rest of my needs. As I have worked this plan, the way I look at guns when I’m in the gun shop or gun show has changed. I have found that typically if something is a wise choice for me it can satisfy 2-3 of the different needs. Re-thinking my strategy has also re-kindled my interest in acquiring guns and I believe I have a logical purpose in doing so. I know it is a lot of information, I hope this makes sense to someone else…… What do you think? :scrutiny:

Change the specifics / details to suite you own preferences and see what you come up with. :D


P.S. I'm more interested in the improving the model / process than arguments about my conclusions. :D I'm okay with being wrong, my wife can tell you that!

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fireman 9731
June 22, 2009, 12:27 AM
You are making it way too complicated...

Buy guns that you like.

Buy guns that are fun.

And buy guns that are useful.

Its that simple.

esheato
June 22, 2009, 12:31 AM
Personally, I don't buy guns for community use...if you're not preparing now, I'm not about to loan you one when the need arises.

My friends at work joke that when the world as we know it ends, they're coming to my house...little do they know that I'm not letting them in. I have enough food/water/guns/ammo for me and mine.

Ohio Gun Guy
June 22, 2009, 12:31 AM
Your right, but......I have an Engineering background and like organizing things that are vague.......I'm writing looking for a formula......;)



and i like overthinking it. :D

Ohio Gun Guy
June 22, 2009, 12:35 AM
esheato - I agree with the sentiment, however in my thinking there are many ways in which otherwise prepaired people could lose possession of their guns or you may be in a situation where there are un-prepaired people but you are in need of support.

But really, for my prime purpose here (Looking at the logic), you can remove the need for a spare in your "formula".

Tamren
June 22, 2009, 12:43 AM
I usually go by use.

For when I get a CCW, I have a CZ-75B

For HD, I have my XD.45 backed up by an 870 12g.

For practice, I have a .22 pistol and a scoped .22 rifle.

For fun I'll use my 870 Tactical on skeet and a pair of black rifles with cheap red dots.

For Zombies, I have the above mentioned black rifles :D

Once I finish my HOWA at school, I'll have a .308 bolt rifle for hunting.

I want to get a .357 revolver as an alternative for CCW.

I want to build a .338 Lapua once I graduate CST for 1000 yard shooting and for the badass factor :neener:

happygeek
June 22, 2009, 12:48 AM
It seems to me that you're trying to justify your hobby in practical terms. Stop. It's a hobby. If it's also useful than great. But do you see people who like model cars or train sets trying to justify their hobby? I practice my hobbies and enjoy them and don't question other people's hobbies.

Besides, you'll getting dangerously close to the way the anti's say "but why would anyone want that? Why would anyone need that?" I say who cares?. Since when in the great USA did we have to justify what we like doing to anybody? If you're not treading on anyone else's right to life, liberty, and property then you can do whatever you want (or you should be able to, sadly there always seems to be some ****head in America who's on a crusade to take away everyone else's right to do something).

Boba Fett
June 22, 2009, 01:27 AM
You are making it way too complicated...

Buy guns that you like.

Buy guns that are fun.

And buy guns that are useful.

Its that simple.


I would add, "buy guns that are reliable/well made," but otherwise that pretty much sums it up for me. :D

NotSoFast
June 22, 2009, 03:11 AM
Method:

What am I trying to do?
What will get that job done efficiently and inexpensively?
Buy it.
Learn to use it and maintain it well.
Repeat as necessary.

I've evaluated the various scenarios I would be using a firearm in and chosen the one(s) that best fit the need. I've looked at accuracy, availability of ammo, ease of maintenance and repair. Then I came up with a short list of guns that I thought would cover my needs. Finally I looked around to see what I liked that would fit those needs. I like what I have and I have what I like. :)

Oyeboten
June 22, 2009, 05:37 AM
I'd say...if you have only one, or two, personal favorite Firearms which you are comfortable and easy-familiar with, which you know well and can field-strip and re-assemble with familiar affection and ease if sitting on a blanket on the ground, and are reasonably good with them in their pratical use, and know them to be reliable Arms...then, you've done plenty nicely enough.

danprkr
June 22, 2009, 06:49 AM
My friends at work joke that when the world as we know it ends, they're coming to my house...little do they know that I'm not letting them in. I have enough food/water/guns/ammo for me and mine.

My only caveat to that is that I'm also trying to get ready for my kids who have no money. If they can make their way to our hidey hole I'll be able to outfit them unless it happens before I get everything in place.

The Lone Haranguer
June 22, 2009, 06:50 AM
Just madness, no method. :neener:

MMCSRET
June 22, 2009, 09:29 AM
I fulfilled all my "need" guns a long time ago, 40 years. Now I buy guns I like because I can.

MattTheHat
June 22, 2009, 10:57 AM
There's a far simpler formula, involving only three questions. When considering a gun purchase (or anything else, for that matter), ask yourself:

1) Do I deserve it?
2) Do I want it?
3) Can I afford it?

If you answer "yes" to all three, you should probably just drop coin and take it home. If you answer "no" to any of the three, you probably shouldn't.

:)


-Matt

KBT1911
June 22, 2009, 10:59 AM
This is my Weapon, This is my Gun. This one's for fightin' This one's for fun!

Walkalong
June 22, 2009, 11:34 AM
Method?

I hope not........I am past buying what I "need". AC

paintballdude902
June 22, 2009, 11:38 AM
i have cheap guns , fun guns expensive guns.

these guns are all used for either hunting, plinking, or target shooting

but normally just devide them into guns

florida1098
June 22, 2009, 11:41 AM
This is my Weapon, This is my Gun. This one's for fightin' This one's for fun!


Thank-you, perfect
IMHO no reason for more than two:)

huntsman
June 22, 2009, 02:27 PM
You are making it way too complicated...

Buy guns that you like.

Buy guns that are fun.

And buy guns that are useful.

Its that simple.


and buy guns that most don't own.

dom1104
June 22, 2009, 03:17 PM
just because I like systems...


I have a CZ P01 with crimson trace lasergrips and a light for home defense in a safe next to the bed.

I have a Kadet kit and several mags that fits it for training so I can shoot 50 rounds a night for practice in the back yard, that allows me to have a laser sighted .22lr version of my HD weapon to practice with, and smooths up the HD guns trigger real nice after a few thousand rounds.

I have a CCW permit and carry it as well.


For me, the HD / CCW / plinking bill is fit with one gun. Its kind of nice to only have to spring for the CT grips 1 time and have it fit both your main ccw and your plinker.

various other rifles/shotguns/22s etc, but I gotta say I like the versatility of a 22 conversion. specially when its so hard to find 9mm you can still "practice" with your gun.

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