Help with new knife pick


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FuzzyBunny
June 22, 2009, 07:08 AM
I need a pocket knife.
I gave a few specs desired and just need a low cost knife.
Use is just everyday and as a last ditch self defense.
I don't need a handmade special just one that will hold an edge more than 10 minutes and I will not cry if lost.

I have an old Gerber Gator that is great but I wear it in a belt pouch and the grips are too sticky and wide for city pocket carry. My others are old case and Kabar folders but have been handed down from now dead male relatives so I am doing to put them up so they don't get lost or stolen.

Here are my specs

Assisted opener for one handed opening if one sleeve is caught in a power tool.
A clip for easy access and I can access same place all the time
Not a tanto I do like the clip points
Plain edge near point and serrated near hilt for rope/string
Thin or at least not thick for pocket carry so not a heavy one.
Not more blade than 2.5 to 3.5 inches
Cost under $40 and $30 would be better
Dark color or at least one thats not day glow orange so it won't stand out.


I'm not a knife guy really but carry ones that are sentimental to me and I want to stop doing that everyday. I know you get what you pay for but I need one that will function and is half way decent. I'm sick of ones that are so cheap they bend when you open a letter. I also need a source to buy one online.

Thanks for replies
Fuzzy

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xm21
June 22, 2009, 07:14 AM
Spyderco Native S30V steel 39.95 walmart.

It is not serrated,but you don't need them
with a steel that will hold an edge like S30V

hso
June 22, 2009, 07:38 AM
Any one hand opener will do as well as an assisted opener, but for what you specify there are plenty of products from Kershaw and CRKT that will fit your needs.

Deltaboy
June 22, 2009, 06:16 PM
HSO got you covered

Piraticalbob
June 22, 2009, 06:49 PM
I'd recommend a Spyderco Delica (http://www.lapolicegear.com/spdekncoedbl.html) with a combo edge. Lightweight, inexpensive, and fits all the specifications you mentioned.

alaskanativeson
June 23, 2009, 08:34 PM
HSO is right, but xm21's advice is also great. I've had a Native III I carried for several years that performed like a champ. It was also inexpensive enough that I wouldn't have been too upset if I'd lost it. Of course these days it's a Mini-Griptilian or a Mini-Rukus that I always reach for, but the Native is a great little knife for the money.

INMY01TA
June 28, 2009, 11:53 PM
Kershaw Blur.

ArfinGreebly
June 29, 2009, 02:04 AM
Light and thin: Kershaw Leek and Kershaw Vapor. Buck Knives also has some stuff to offer, see below. I've grabbed some images to show the basic profiles. I don't know if all of them are offered with combo blades.

The Leek is assisted:
http://www.kershaw-knives.net/images/Kershaw-leek-1660ST-350x350.gif

The Vapor has no assist:
http://www.kershaw-knives.net/images/Kershaw-Vapor-1640BLKST-350x350.gif

Also the (Mayo designed) Buck Cutback BU-174, a surprisingly competent knife. (No assist.)
http://www.fernknives.com/images/BU-174large.gif

And its larger brother, the Buck BU-179 Hilo: (Also no assist.)
http://www.knivesplus.com/media/BU-179.jpg


For a few dollars more, Buck has some hefty, robust assisted-opener offerings: the Rush and Sirus. The Rush is smaller and quite compact. Very sharp, very pointy. The Sirus is a larger, heavier piece, and a real handful of knife.

The Rush:
http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_516573_imageset_01?$main-Medium$

The Sirus:
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/eccStoreFront/stp/product_images/73847/f_73847_1.jpg


And finally, just because, there's the Buck Redpoint. No spring. It's a one-handed opener with a lock-latch that locks it both open and closed. You open it by thumbing the latch and rotating the "wheel" at the base of the blade with your finger, both to open and close the knife. It's quite light. Don't know how thin. It is available in various colors, one of them being gray.
http://media.rei.com/media/ee/33ae836c-eaeb-4e05-9972-a6fa03184935.jpg

I don't have one of those, because I prefer the plain-edge knives, and the Redpoint is only available in a combo edge. Rats. Because I actually like the knife design.

Jorg
June 29, 2009, 02:41 AM
Based on your requirements, I would recommend a Kershaw Leek. Go to your local Wal-Mart and see if they have one. Just about every Walmart around here has the silver/grayish one with the half serrated blade. They want too much for it, but you can at least handle one to see if you like it. There is also a black version that is just as thin.

The one thing you want to keep in mind is that the sides are pretty smooth, so if you are going to have wet hands, you might want a different knife. The Blur is similar, but has rough inserts that will make it a bit easier to hold on to. The downside is that it makes it a bit thicker.

kirklandkie
June 29, 2009, 11:55 PM
+1 on the "Buck Cutback BU-174"
it's my daily carry knife

-kirk

zeebo419
June 30, 2009, 12:41 AM
What about a gerber fast draw? I have one and I like it tho I'm not much of a knife person. It seems to hold a servicable edge and i got it a wal-mart for under $40.

http://media.rei.com/media/460794.jpg

hawk45
June 30, 2009, 09:28 PM
Cheap easy one hand opener... look at the Byrd line of Spyderco knives. Very high quality for $20 knives. Also check out the CRKT Drifter.. mine is small and real smooth.

T.R.
July 2, 2009, 07:47 AM
My everyday knife is a Boker liner lock named Ultimate Hunter. It features a high quality SS blade and root wood handle. But you can find one on eBay with little effort for under $20.

TR

arcticap
July 2, 2009, 02:32 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=100746&stc=1&d=1246555861

My local True Value Hardware store received a new display of Frost knives.
This Cliff Dweller is a sturdy tactical folder with a 2.5" cutting edge.
It was only $8.99 and Ace Hardware will also ship knives to your local store for free.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2845686

mp510
July 2, 2009, 02:47 PM
I recommend getting a Benchmade Pika (NOT the Pika II) with the partially serrated blade. The blade profile is a lot less aggressive looking than the Spyderco Native and it has the serrated option that the Native lacks. Additionally, the clip is designed to minimize visibility of the knife itself- only the clip is visible when your carrying it. I got mine nearly two years ago, and I have used/abused it just about every day since.

mp510
July 2, 2009, 02:50 PM
My local True Value Hardware store received a new display of Frost knives.
This Cliff Dweller is a sturdy tactical folder with a 2.5" cutting edge.
It was only $8.99 and Ace Hardware will also ship knives to your local store for free.


As an FYI, the pocket clip on that knife is excessively rigid, which would make it difficult to re-pocket quickely. Additionally, out of the box, the blade has a degree of grittiness to it. Not very smoothe opening. I will agree that unlike many of the junkier Frost tactical folders, this one does have a very nice edge, right out of the box, and locks up very solidly.

mg.mikael
July 2, 2009, 04:12 PM
http://www.gerbergear.com/images/products/22-08446-1.jpg
Go with a Gerber Paraframe I, it has a 3 inch blade, and weighs only 2.7 ounces. The stainless steel handle incorporates a frame lock to hold the blade securely in place, so no real parts that could wear out like a spring. This is my personal everyday pocket-knife and it can be found under $30.00.

Note: They also make a serrated version.
http://www.gerbergear.com/images/products/22-08445-1.jpg

conwict
July 3, 2009, 09:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz8ZAnendfQ&feature=fvw

^nutnfancy goes on forever it seems like but his reviews are pretty good

Kershaw Skyline! It's awesome - G10 scales, good Sandvik steel holds an edge (heat treat is RIGHT on), dark colored but not tacticrap attention-getter. It's beautiful, light, smooth opening, sharper than any other Kershaw out of the box, $25-30 depending where you get it. It does have one-handed opening.

Get a coarse and fine DMT dia-sharp stone too and you'll be right at $40 and SET.

This thing is seriously the best Kershaw I've ever handled.

lions
July 3, 2009, 09:34 PM
I'll second zeebo and say Gerber FAST Draw. The clip positions the blade point up which is a lot faster on the draw for me. I really can get this thing out and open in a hurry. It meets all your requirements but if you are used to having the blade point down when in your pocket it may take a little getting used to. It is a good knife for what it is.

Big Top Gt
July 3, 2009, 11:55 PM
I almost laughed out loud when I read "Gerber Gator."

I've got a scar on my left thumb knuckle (at the base of my thumb) from where I got carelesss with a Gator and cut myself open to the thumb while whittling a branch in Albania. (I still have the offending branch.)

Ahhh.. good times... :D

Black Toe Knives
July 4, 2009, 12:32 AM
Find a "Case" guy ask him what he carries everyday. Most I know will pull out a well worn Ken Onion Kershaw. It is first choice amongst people that love knives.

Todd A
July 4, 2009, 01:17 AM
Find a "Case" guy ask him what he carries everyday. Most I know will pull out a well worn Ken Onion Kershaw.

Uhhh Ohhh......I know a couple Case guys here who will take that as fight'n words.:what::D

Of course us Schrade guys really carry "custom" fixed blades.;)

(I gave my dusty,hadn't been used in years Leek to a friend at work who needed a decent knife)

conwict
July 4, 2009, 06:47 PM
If USABILITY once the blade is open is the key, Case takes the cake. People looking at pics of knives don't understand that "old school" case knives are ALL ABOUT longevity, cutting power, and user friendliness. The catch is they don't open one handed unless you file them or are sm or whatever :). Case has a much thinner blade profile most of the time than many knives marketed for similar tasks by more contemporary companies (Kershaw, even Spyderco, etc) which equates to a more usable edge, period. Not to mention that the tolerances and tension on a $20-25 case slipjoint are perfect and stay that way.

Case knows what it does and it does it well. It does NOT pry, chop wood at arm's length, etc. It does not open one-handed. If you want a knife for last ditch defense, get a fixed blade. If you want a user for every day tasks, get a Case. If you want some kind of bastardized compromise between the two, that's your deal.

END HYPERBOLIC RANT.

Now, of the bastardized compromises, I like the Skyline just fine :)

PS - This isn't a flame directed at you Black Toe, just a strong opinion. IMO most people go with a newer design because they either require fast access but can't carry fixed due to legal restrictions, or they just haven't tried a good carbon slipjoint.

Black Toe Knives
July 4, 2009, 08:24 PM
Case is one of the Finest Knives ever made. Period. The Kershaw Observation was just more of funny anecdote than anything.

conwict
July 4, 2009, 08:39 PM
Nah, you just got me started. Then there was no stopping until it was all out. I feel better. No hard feelings :)

ArfinGreebly
July 4, 2009, 09:50 PM
Uh, I supposed I could be accused of that.

If I don't care about one-handed opening, and if I just want a blade with an edge I can rely on, I reach for a Case.

Always have one on me, have one assigned to a jacket, have one in the truck center console, one on my desk at home, blah blah blah.

I have a large Case Sod Buster in my EDC rotation, and it goes in the horizontal belt pouch when it's carried.

In my normal EDC load-out, I have seldom have a one-handed opener except for the knife blades on my Leatherman Wave, and they aren't assisted.

Every so often I will carry an AO knife by Buck or Kershaw.

(For the detail minded: in my rotation are (in no particular order) Buck Rush, Kershaw Leek, Kershaw Needs Work, Buck Sirus, Kershaw Scallion. When I carry unassisted one-handers, I take a Buck Cutback, Kershaw Vapor, Buck Hilo, and another one that I can't remember just now.)

Todd A
July 4, 2009, 09:58 PM
Case is one of the Finest Knives ever made. Period. The Kershaw Observation was just more of funny anecdote than anything.

Not a problem...I own a couple of Case slipjoints as well as a few other no longer made brands.

I doubt any are gonna take real offense, but there are many traditional knife guys on this board.


Me...I always have a slipjoint in my pocket. Lately it has been a Vic Hiker SAK. Often a stockman will find its way into a pocket as well.

My one-hand openers are fixed blades. As I am lucky enough to live in a state that allows me to carry them open or concealed.

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