[H&Hhunter]

Anybody here ever used 180 gr Speer grandslams in a .300 mag? I've used them in .375 285gr and they are a great bullet and they seem to hold together real well out of an 06 but are they stout enough for the higher velocities?

Any actual examples out there good bad or indifferent?

[Keith]

I know at least two people who use them.

One friend has had sporadic failures to expand on blacktail deer; some of which I have witnessed. Everyone wants to use an extra-heavy 180/200 grain bullet for deer hunting around here because of the prevalence of big toothy critters. Most of these heavies just don't work on light game - or I should say they "sometimes" don't work on light game... In most cases they do work just fine.

I always advise people (including my friend, who won't listen) to use Nosler Partitions since they seem to expand on light or heavy game, regardless of the weight of bullet. I just trust the Noslers after using them these many years.


Keith

[one-shot-one]

how good is the accuracy of those partitions?
heard some people complain about poor accuracy...........

[Keith]

Minute Of Deer.

Keith

[Black Dragon]

H&H, I use the 180gr grand slams in my .300 weatherby for Elk and
Mule Deer. The closest animal was 225 yards and the farthest was
396 yards. The Elk, at 396 yards, took two rounds to bring it down.
The first hit was mortal but would have taken a little time. Second
hit (from 300 yards) dropped it. The Mule deer all dropped in their
tracks. On the Mules, the shots had gone completely through the deer
( 225 yards, 307 and 319)so I can't say what the bullet looked like.
On the Elk we only found one of them and it had gone through to the
other side and was just under the fur. Lost a good amount of its
weight (40 to 50%), but I figured it made it to the other side. My
Weatherby loves the ammo, 1.75 inch groups at 200 yards. My friends
in Montana use the Nolser and have had some of the accuracy problems
that One-shot-one talked about. They were reloading so we did some
testing. Using 180gr Nolser with IMR7828 (about 80gr), No. 215 primers
in weatherby brass we got the groups down to about 1 1/4 inches at 100
yards. That was out of their rifles. I made up some for myself but
haven't been able to got out and test them. The next test is to try
Molly coated bullets (180gr Nolser). The Nolser are great in 7mm and
30.06. The Montana friends still take a good number of animals with
the Nolser so it can't be all bad.

[H&Hhunter]

i don't dislike Nosler PT's it's just that I've got several hundred 180 gr Grand Slams sitting around from some trade or another.;)

And I am sick and tired of the copper issue with Barnes X so I thought I'd give them a shot this year.