Simple Ballistics Question
SHusky57
June 25, 2009, 11:57 PM
Fired perpendicular [oops- the OP meant PARALLEL- lpl] to level ground, how far will 12 gauge rounds go before they fall to the ground? Does the choke make any difference?
1: 00 Buckshot
2: Slug
3: Birdshot
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REAPER4206969
June 26, 2009, 02:54 AM
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/REAPER1911-A1/howfar.jpg
Bud Tugly
June 26, 2009, 03:01 AM
The chart and graph near the bottom of this page partly answer your questions:
http://shotgunsportsmagazine.com/downloads/shotgun_statistics.pdf
The graph shows range with the barrel elevated at a 30 degree angle so it isn't exactly what you asked. Under those conditions it looks like every time you go one size larger in shot size you add about 15 yards to the absolute range.
SeekHer
June 26, 2009, 04:19 AM
Reaper, nice chart but at probably a 45 degree angle as is indicated in the "Shotgun Sports" magazine chart
The question was parallel to the ground...
I'd have to say around 25 to 40, 45 yards for bird/buck (heavier farther) and about 55, 60 for slugs...
Not hard to check out, just place in a vise or on a good BR rest and shot some at the range!
Virginian
June 26, 2009, 08:00 AM
Actually, what he said was perpendicular to the ground, and in that scenario you need to know the wind speed, and I would recommend a WWII style helmet. I think what he meant was probably closer to 45 degrees.
Bud Tugly
June 26, 2009, 08:13 AM
Assuming he meant PARALLEL TO THE GROUND and taking the nerdy scientific approach, you can calculate the time it would take for the pellets to hit the ground from the formula: distance = 1/2 acceleration x time squared, where acceleration due to gravity is 32 ft/ second squared. If we figure the gun is about 5 feet above the ground when fired then the formula becomes:
5 = 1/2 x 32 x time squared
time squared = 5/16 = .3125
time = square root of .3125 = .56 seconds
So it will take the pellets .56 seconds to hit the ground when fired parallel to the ground from a height of 5 feet. If the muzzle velocity of the shotgun is around 1200 ft/sec then the pellets would travel .56 x 1200 = 672 feet before hitting the ground.
This all assumes no air resistance, so the lighter pellets in bird shot would travel much less than 672 feet while buckshot and especially slugs might actually come close to it. Just guesstimating I'd say 300-400 feet for most birdshot, around 500 feet for 00 buck, and maybe 600 feet for slugs.
SHusky57
June 26, 2009, 11:31 AM
I meant parallel.
Basically why I am wondering:
a) you are responsible for every pellet
b) one of your pellet misses target
c) how far will pellet go.
Jim Watson
June 26, 2009, 11:40 AM
Since you are "responsible" for every pellet, you should not limit yourself to a horizontal shot. Even a little elevation adds a lot to the range. Refer to Reaper's chart for the maximum. Which is attained at well under a 45 degree launch angle, we live in air not a vacuum, and that makes a big difference. No 7 1/2 will carry out about 240 yards past the typical Trap or Skeet shot, for example. That is both by calculation and field test that I witnessed.
Bud Tugly
June 26, 2009, 11:46 AM
Well, you'd better assume that your pellets can travel several hundred yards if you're shooting PARALLEL to the ground. Since we normally shoot shotguns elevated above the parallel, the range is considerably farther than that, especially for slugs and buckshot.
The rule that you shouldn't fire your gun unless you know what's BEHIND your target should always apply.
Bud Tugly
June 26, 2009, 12:27 PM
Years ago some friends and I were grouse hunting and happened to be walking along the shore of a remote lake. Apparently some folks were duck hunting from the opposite shore since we saw lots of ducks and heard gunshots coming from that side.
We heard pellets whizzing through the tree branches above us and the lake was at least 1/4 mile wide, so their shots carried at least that far. I suppose they had lost most of their energy by that time, but I still wouldn't want to have been hit by them.
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