Help: Cheapest Gun/Ammo Combination


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Birdmang
June 28, 2009, 09:59 PM
All the rifles that I have are expensive to shoot except for my .22, I like to shoot it a lot but I want something bigger.

Is there a rifle out there that is inexpensive and has readily available cheap ammo, regardless of ammo quality?

I was thinking it would probably be Military Surplus, but my 7mm and 8mm mausers are very expensive to shoot!


Please help me out!

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Shadow 7D
June 28, 2009, 11:11 PM
Mosin Nagant
Hi Point Carbine
most pistol caliber carbines
a number of lever actions in pistol caliber
something in 308, 5.56 or 7.62 x 39

COMPNOR
June 28, 2009, 11:15 PM
Hi-Point Carbines rock. Say $200 for the gun, and ~$9/box of 9mm ammo.

musick
June 29, 2009, 12:03 AM
Mosin Nagant

x2

~$80 for the rifle, and ~$85 for 640 rds of ammo at J&G sales. If you have a C&R license ($30/3 yrs.), they will ship it directly to your house.

Birdmang
June 29, 2009, 12:50 AM
Should I check my local shop for a Mosin, and only $80, that would be awesome!

Kwanger
June 29, 2009, 10:43 AM
Hi-Point Carbines rock. Say $200 for the gun, and ~$9/box of 9mm ammo.
But only if you can find 9mm in those Wally world prices....can be tricky these days.

CWL
June 29, 2009, 03:05 PM
I think that an SKS would fit your needs.

John Wayne
June 29, 2009, 03:16 PM
The SKS rifle and 7.62x39 round have increased considerably in price and been harder to find with the recent ammo buying craze.

The Mosin Nagant (91, 91/30, M-38 and M-44) all remain inexpensive and readily available. Surplus 7.62x54R ammo is often cheaper than 9mm, much cheaper than x39, and easy to find. Corrosive com-bloc ammo is great for busting rocks, with ballistic tipped, soft point, AP, tracer, and just about every other round you can imagine available as well.

EDIT

The 5.45x39 round is considerably cheaper than the 5.56x45 (which it is often compared to) but the platform to shoot it is a lot higher. An AK-74 will probably run you at least $600, whereas Mosins can be had for around $100 depending on model and condition.

Claude Clay
June 29, 2009, 03:56 PM
cz-52 ($200) firing 7.62x25 (12 cents a round)

9mm drop in barrel ($100) optional [works best with +p ammo so reloading is the way to go]

damien
June 29, 2009, 04:08 PM
~$9/box of 9mm ammo.

Good luck. Even Wolf crap ammo is exceeding those prices these days. Unless you can find it at WalMart, the least expensive prices I have been seeing have been around $15 for "standard" FMJ brass cased ammo. That was at Cabela's, and stock is spotty.

COMPNOR
June 29, 2009, 04:15 PM
Its hard, but not impossible. One of my Walmarts had 8 boxes in the case last night, and I bought 6(which is the most they allow at the moment).

22-rimfire
June 29, 2009, 04:33 PM
Pretty much what Shadow sadi: Mosin Nagants
Anything in .223
Rifles in 9mm or 45ACP
Rifles in 357/38spl.

Price is kind of relative though.

SCKimberFan
June 29, 2009, 05:47 PM
Help: Cheapest Gun/Ammo Combination

No offense, but do you really want to trust your life to the Cheapest Gun/Ammo Combination?

Birdmang
June 29, 2009, 05:53 PM
SCKimberFan: This is a thread for cheap and fun shooting, not for self defense. I don't live in fear, I will be fine, but thanks though.

theotherwaldo
June 29, 2009, 06:16 PM
-Past that, shotgun is fun to shoot and cheap enough.

cauberallies
June 29, 2009, 10:56 PM
+1 for the Mosin. I can't think of a better power/price/fun ratio. I even enjoy shooting my M-38 more than my AMD 65. Cheap surplus ammo is plentiful, too. I'd pick it over lots of other options, even if I had the money.

cchris
June 29, 2009, 11:16 PM
I'll give a +1 for the Mosin here, even though I've only shot a few and don't own one. The ammo is cheap for it, and not as crappy as the leftover stuff for Mausers. The gun itself is inexpensive, accurate, and 400+ rounds can be purchased for around $100.

-edit- I just contemplated picking up one when I get my paycheck next week. I make around $200 a week and part of that goes to food. If this wasn't a cheap gun/ammo combo, I wouldn't have even given it a thought.

COMPNOR
June 30, 2009, 12:13 AM
I'm going to disagree slightly with the Mosin. Yes, they're cheap. Yes, ammo is cheap. And yes they're fun to shoot. But for me, they're not fun to shoot more than a few clips. After 5-10 rounds, I'm done.

bearmgc
June 30, 2009, 12:39 AM
Marlin 30-30 or /and CZ52.

Birdmang
June 30, 2009, 12:44 AM
I have a Marlin 30 30 and cant find ammo for it!

BunnyPuncher
June 30, 2009, 12:59 AM
Another Mosin vote here. I put 60-80 rounds downrange every range trip. 60 rounds works out to about 15 bucks after shipping. I couldn't imagine doing that with any other high power rifle (.270 is $14/20 for the cheap Federal and .308 seems to be all over $20/20!)

Also, while they are a tad inaccurate, a few bucks for a scout scope or a new set of iron sights takes most of that problem away. I average 4-6" with the issued iron sights and 2"-2.5" with the scout scope and surplus ammo at 100yds. Still have the trigger from heck though. Heavier than the double action on a S&W revo.

doc2rn
June 30, 2009, 01:04 AM
The best you could do IMO is get one of the standards .243, .270, 30-30, 30-06. These will always have production ammo you can find and are readily available in almost every format you can imagine. 30-06 is generally seen as the do all hunting rifle in North America.
I agree that mil surp like the M44 or 91/30 Mossin Nagant might be the way to go as both can be had for dirt cheap (usually $100) and ammo is usually descent. I personally have a 91/30 and something like 880 rds lying around here somewhere.

sarduy
June 30, 2009, 02:34 AM
savage mark-II & .22lr

Kind of Blued
June 30, 2009, 02:46 AM
You can't beat a 91/30 in this department.

While it isn't a rifle, honorable mention goes to the NEF single-shot shotgun. They're rampant in pawn shops, and the gun, 100 rounds of 12 or 20 gauge, a box of clays, and a hand thrower can set you back as little as $100, and that's a LOT of fun.

Also, even during the height of the recent run on guns and ammo, one could stop by Wal-Mart ont he way to the range and get at least a few hundred rounds of 12/20 gauge (as well as the clays and thrower).

mgkdrgn
June 30, 2009, 01:03 PM
Hi-Point Carbines rock. Say $200 for the gun, and ~$9/box of 9mm ammo.

If you can still get a box of 50/9mm for $9, please tell the rest of us where.

mgkdrgn
June 30, 2009, 01:09 PM
I have a Marlin 30 30 and cant find ammo for it!

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/browse/rifle-ammunition-caliber-30-30.aspx?c=96&s=918&stk=1

Birdmang
June 30, 2009, 01:11 PM
Thank you for the link, I didn't state this clearly but I meant in person around my place, I don't like shopping online really.

I'm pretty set on a 91/30 and a hipoint!

Thanks everyone!

offthepaper
June 30, 2009, 01:11 PM
Not to change the subject, but instead of buying a new affordable gun and ammo to shoot, maybe you should spend that same money on a beginners reloading setup. It might make shooting the guns you already have "affordable". :cool:

Birdmang
June 30, 2009, 01:19 PM
I just called Cabelas and they are shipping a lee hand loader to my local cabelas, I didnt pay for it yet and plan on making a decision when I see it. I do plan on reloading .223, 9mm and .38 special, all at my grandfathers request. I have firearms in the following: .223, .30-30, 45-70, .38spcl, 9x19, .25acp, .32, .38., 8mm Mauser, 7mm Mauser and 8x22 Nambu.

I was really looking for some Eastern Bloc rifle/ammo combination that is really cheap to shoot and at the price would be fine to shoot corrosive ammo through.

I still am not set on the lee hand loader, especially when the anniversary kit is only ~$50 more.

hso
June 30, 2009, 01:23 PM
8mm is pretty cheap if you purchase a case of corrosive and just remember to clean well.

chuwee81
June 30, 2009, 03:59 PM
BIG plus on the mosin. Picked up a 91/30 a week ago. Been shooting 10/22 mostly and man, what a difference. As long as your elbow is NOT braced on the bench (let it float with your body), you'll be fine.

RockyTop
June 30, 2009, 04:03 PM
~$80 for the rifle, and ~$85 for 640 rds of ammo at J&G sales. If you have a C&R license ($30/3 yrs.), they will ship it directly to your house.

You mean 440 rounds? I'd like to get in on that 640 for $85.

BunnyPuncher
June 30, 2009, 04:45 PM
He most def means 440.

cchris
June 30, 2009, 06:45 PM
Just for comparison, you can get 340 rounds of 8mm Mauser for $80, and $5 more will get you 440 rounds of 7.62x54R (Mosin ammo). Mausers can cost around $200 for one in original condition, but you can do like I did and find a sporterized 98 (which lightens it up in the front) and just have fun with it for $100.

In fact, sporterized milsurps aren't that bad of a buy if you're into shooting and not collecting. It knocks a good amount off the value of the gun, hence you can have it for less.

Birdmang
June 30, 2009, 06:54 PM
I have a 98k original condition and a sportorized Chilean model 93

toivo
July 1, 2009, 01:03 AM
In fact, sporterized milsurps aren't that bad of a buy if you're into shooting and not collecting. It knocks a good amount off the value of the gun, hence you can have it for less.

That might be true for Mausers and Enfields, but not so much for Mosins. The garden-variety Mosins couldn't really get much cheaper, or they'd hardly be worth selling. Even Gander "Outrageous Prices" Mountain was selling M44s for $99 the last time I looked. Some of the beaters on Gunbroker have multiple bids and they're still under $50. The dealers probably buy shiploads of them by weight. :D

I haven't seen that many sporterized Mosins, but a sporterized 91/30, with that l-o-o-o-o-o-ng barrel hanging out there, has to be one of the ugliest rifles on the planet. In their native military garb, though, they look pretty good.

Back to the OP: Is there any reasons you're not talking .22LR? Cheapest to shoot by far, and I believe somebody mentioned the Savage MKII as a sweet deal on a decent rifle. If I wanted to shoot the most possible for the least amount of money, that's what I'd do. But if it's the Big Bang you want, then Mosin all the way.

Birdmang
July 1, 2009, 01:12 AM
I could shoot .22 all day, I love it. I was looking for something bigger but cheap haha.

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