gun show prices this weekend


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taliv
June 29, 2009, 11:44 AM
:what:

there were tables and tables of AR15s, and most were back to pre-obama prices (e.g. $800ish for bushmaster/dpms m4 styles)

one dealer offered me the daniel defense ar15 for $1500 out the door (TN sales tax is 10%)

saw a SCAR for $4000 ... oddly enough, i didn't see anyone else in the show even stop to look at it. i fondled it for a while. interesting gun. i'll have to buy one if they ever get under $1500 or so.

tons of ammo was available, but still very high priced

i saw five 8# jugs of Varget, priced from $170 and up :eek::barf:


anyone else go to a show this weekend? how was pricing and availability where you were?

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10X
June 29, 2009, 11:58 AM
Where was this show?

taliv
June 29, 2009, 12:13 PM
RK gunshow, smyrna TN

22-rimfire
June 29, 2009, 12:17 PM
Were there many old revolvers at the show? I'ver been trying to stay away from shows this year.

Stirling XD
June 29, 2009, 12:18 PM
I went to one last weekend with a friend. We were surprised at the high prices as well. A pound of gun powder was selling for $25 at just about every table. I can usually get it for much less at the stores IF they have it in stock. It makes me wonder if the store shelves aren't being cleaned out by the gunshow dealers so they can create a false sense of reduced supply and then jack the price up. What would you rather do? Pay $15 for powder that you can't find or pay $25 for the powder in your hand?

I also think that gunshow dealers are hoping for more of a "feeding frenzy" mentality. Plus, I think they raise prices in anticipation of more haggling then they might get in their store. Just a few thoughts. I really can't say for sure.

welldoya
June 29, 2009, 07:54 PM
I went to a gunshow Saturday and it looks to me like the frenzy is over. ARs were everywhere and a lot of people were walking around with ARs trying to sell them. I heard one dealer say that the AR market is in the toilet.
I saw just a couple of people filling out paperwork. Contrast that to the same show 2 or 3 months ago when people were 3 deep at every table filling out paperwork and there was a 30 minute wait to get in the door.

J_L_A
June 29, 2009, 07:59 PM
Above post............A lesson a lot of us can learn from (including me :) )

Hickwithstick
June 29, 2009, 09:00 PM
I know here locally that the dealers for the gun shows clean out wallmart then take the ammo out and mark it up sky high. Our local WM was starting to get a decent amount of ammo in stock, untill the gun show happened that weekend then WM had bare shelves and ......

dirtdog13
June 29, 2009, 10:17 PM
Went to a show last weekend. Pretty much the same. Tables full of ARs and ammo. Most overpriced. Not much selling. I had never seen that much tactical stuff in one spot before. Everything you could ever want for black guns.

The show started Fri. ran 3-7. One couple I buy alot of reloading stuff from still had small rifle primers left on Sat morning. $28/1000. Several other vendors had LR and LR primers at the end of the day Sat. But they were asking alot more $$.

I think the people who buy up ever box of ammo they can find to resell for double what they paid are about to have the market crash down around them.

ljnowell
June 30, 2009, 09:05 AM
I went a few weeks ago. Seeing all of the people trying to hock ARs that they paid too much for was beautiful. Almost as satisfying as seeing people pack up all those primers they are still trying to get 45/K for and take them back home. I'm sure no one learned anything from the buying frenzy, but it sure is satisfying to ee the people that fueled it have to eat the crap they bought.

GojuBrian
June 30, 2009, 09:20 AM
I'm looking forward to getting a nice AR in a few months for $500-600. :D

CoRoMo
June 30, 2009, 09:31 AM
If a SCAR is ever priced under $1,500... buy two or three.

AirForceShooter
June 30, 2009, 09:37 AM
that's going to be about right for the AR
$600

AFS

Speedo66
June 30, 2009, 10:34 AM
Nice to see the lines are down at some of the shows.

Maybe the frenzy really is over. That, and there just wasn't much to buy anyway that wasn't seriously overpriced.

XTerminator
June 30, 2009, 10:41 AM
The frenzy may be over for now, but the price gouging at the gun shows seems to go on forever. :mad::barf::cuss:

Steve

maskedman504
June 30, 2009, 11:24 AM
They will eventually get tired of loading all their crap back into their trucks at the end of the weekend.

bratch
June 30, 2009, 11:27 AM
Not a gun show but the classifieds on our local board is really cooling off; there are several AKs and ARs that are priced decently that aren't getting any play. I think the gun bubble has burst just waiting on the ammo/reloading to pop.

nathan
June 30, 2009, 11:30 AM
After all the price gouging were promoted by these dealers. Consumers beware. ARs are overpriced and overhyped. Get you a good AK47 for less.

41022collector
June 30, 2009, 12:04 PM
The Frenzy is not over, just folks do not have the money to drop right now. Kids are home, vacation time, people laying back to see what the feds do and the tax refunds are now all spent.

I believe Fall will show if it is over or not. I was talking to a friend of mine at CCI and he stated they hav large world wide orders (back ordered) out to March 2011.

Most of the table dealers are also either home or store front dealers, so they have the pulse on the entire market. If they feel they can get $25 a lb from you, they will charge it.

I recently sold (traded) and yes (I would consider trades of specific .410 and .22lr pieces for my reloading component stock piles) 30,000 small rifle primers to a table dealer friend (never again) as I had seen how he jacked the price up so high that I felt embarrased even knowing the guy...BUT.... they sold out in a matter of 1 1/2 hours.

I think people have gotten their AR's, AK's, 45's and 9mm, .32 pieces they want through various sources as I too just see them lay there and at my friends shop. I believe in early fall you will see prices in ammo go up an even more percent close to 20 - 25%, this goes for reloading compents as well (some componets I feel will be as high as 40-50%). I believe they will stay there for at least until 2010 elections and if the rep/indy feds do not regain some control in both house and senate, it will litterally go through the roof.

I did notice a very significant rise in C&R Mil-Surp sales, people grabbing 2-3 pieces at a time and the ammo to go with them.

I have also noticed parts are scarce, people are buying them up in planning for long term holdings of their current firearms. My .45, garand and Carbine stock of parts have dwindled... people buying 3 of what they need, like firing pins, spring sets, pin sets. I just had a single person here at THR buy my entire stock of Rem Model 11, 11-48, 1100 and 870 parts and he is not a dealer or a smithy (yes I kept a small supply back for my and some customers use).

5.56, .308, 30-06, 9mm, .45 and small cal ammo was actually a decent price given the market. What I was surprised at were the .22 rim fires and other rim fires prices being so high and they were selling bricks at a time.

I am not so sure about the false sense of avail as it is the same table dealers that own the basement and store shops. Places like davidsons, rsr, J&G, Graf etc.... are also low on stocks.... so I believe the shortage is real and people are falling into the supply & demand scene. I found a fantastic (will be kept secret) wholesale place near me here in Ohio that has tons of stock as they bought a lot when the prices were down, but they do ration their sales to people, but shop and police department sales are not restricted. BUT.... they do have what you want at lower then list prices.

I actually had seen an argument break out between two show goers over some components, one guy bought a lot and the other guy was truly pissed because he did not get his. I shrugged my shoulders and well, that is supply and demand at it's core, if you wait for what you need and not plan for it, you will fall victim to lines and supply and demand.

Regards,
Mike

Hookslinger
July 4, 2009, 11:49 PM
For the record...I just purchased a "new in the box" FN SCAR-L 16S from a large dealer here in Birmingham for $2,995. After a long session at the range Friday I can tell you...it was worth "every single penny I paid". I found it to be...light...well designed with a very nice trigger and most important...extremely accurate. After only "one" front sight click adjustment...I proceeded to fire a 10 shot...3" ctc group at 100 yds (with the iron sights) using Federal XM 193 F rounds. I chronographed them (out of the 16" barrel) at 3070 fps. In time I was picking off little dirt clods in the berms out at 300...400...and even 450 yds with the irons. Fact is...I had a very difficult time even leaving the range I was having so much fun...

Sav .250
July 5, 2009, 07:25 AM
Went to the Gun Show in Orlando on the 4th and I must say the vendors
are in love with their ammo. I didn`t see any deals and the prices were the same as store prices. On the plus side, there was plenty of ammo of all kinds and cals.

jimsmith80
July 6, 2009, 03:51 AM
I was at one a couple weeks ago and it seems to have cooled down. But a question who did'nt see this coming? By october I had the Ar's I wanted, the primers I wanted and just sat and watched the prices go up and up,up,up. and now they are going down, down, and I am thinking that in a few mounths I might want a couple more black guns!

HarleyFixer
July 6, 2009, 09:27 AM
Went to one in Dothan, Al this weekend. Gun prices are down but still a little high. Quite a bit of ammo available but a gain a little high still. Powder normal price but VERY limited primers at 80-100 a thousand.

Tequila Mockingbird
July 6, 2009, 10:42 PM
I pretty much quit going to gun shows. Lots of overpriced junk for the most part. Prices on quality firearms are sometimes higher than at local retailers...:confused:

ChCx2744
July 7, 2009, 01:49 AM
I'm waiting for AK's to be around $200 again. It may be longer of a wait than AR's, but when it happens, I'm snaggin one of em.

divemedic
July 7, 2009, 06:12 AM
I was at the Orlando show, and saw one vendor who was asking $100 for a 50 round box of Federal .380 ball.

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