Selling Reloads


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LWYM425
July 2, 2009, 09:04 AM
Couldn't find a thread similar to this (didn't look for very long though).

I am curious how people who re-load feel about selling their rounds. From what I understand reloading is far cheaper then getting factort ammo so it seems there is room for a hefty profit and still be competitive with prices.

Anyone interested in this? Anyone in Western Washington?

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GodGuns&Guitars
July 2, 2009, 09:14 AM
You'll need a manufactures license from BATF. If you're smart, you'll need good insurance and a good attorney as well.

fitz47
July 2, 2009, 09:21 AM
PLEASE Heed G-3s advice well said,enough

oneounceload
July 2, 2009, 09:23 AM
Not a chance in hell...don't even give them away. That makes you a mfg. in the eyes of the BATF, hefty fines, jail times, etc......and as mentioned, if something goes wrong and someone gets hurt shooting your reloads, they'll take everything you own and then some.

Now, allowing them to come over with their components to your house and they use your press..........

Randy1911
July 2, 2009, 09:49 AM
Family members are the only ones I let shoot them. I wouldn't even think of selling them. Too risky.:uhoh:

LWYM425
July 2, 2009, 09:54 AM
Oh, thats disappointing (I was hoping to be on the buying end of the deal). I have heard of people buying and shooting reloads that they didn't produce- where do you think they got those? Do manufacturers make them at a discount?

NCsmitty
July 2, 2009, 10:07 AM
LWYM425, you can take advantage of remanufactured ammo offered by several vendors who are legitimate, licensed and insured.

Many people suffer the consequences of dealing with unlicensed ammo producers. It can be a damaged firearm or bodily injury.


NCsmitty

Jimfern
July 2, 2009, 10:18 AM
Read the threads of people who had had problems with their reloads here. I would expect that someone new to the hobby would be more likely to sell their "product" to you than someone who has been doing it for years.

Black Hills makes excellent new ammo and reloads:

http://www.black-hills.com/reman.htm

freakshow10mm
July 2, 2009, 10:20 AM
You will need:

Type 06 FFL $30 3 years
Register with ITAR (even if you don't export) $2,250 yearly

Recommended:
Product liability insurance starts at $2,100 yearly and goes up from there depending on what you sell and how much.

You are looking at over $4,000 yearly for licensing and insurance. Then factor your equipment, labor, taxes, utilities, rent, advertising, R&D; it adds up fast. To get properly setup, $50,000 is a meager setup with one Dillon 1050 and support to keep it running.

My company is a licensed manufacturer and is insured. We offer factory new and factory reloads. We supply dozens of LE agencies in the local WI/MI area as well as a few firearm industry testing facilities. Current facilities allow us to produce 9.36 million rounds annually. We are seeking financing to bring capable production to 96 million rounds annually.

Unless you make the bullets yourself or buy lead bullets, now isn't the time to get into this business. Primers from the manufacturers are 4-6 months out.

RoostRider
July 2, 2009, 10:24 AM
There are several reload manufacturers.... and yeah, they are cheaper than typical ammo...

GodGuns&Guitars
July 2, 2009, 11:28 AM
If you'll notice, I don't even publish what load data I use on here or any other gun forum. If someone used that data and something wrong happened, I could be in deep. I usually refer people to manauls and go on about my business.

SlamFire1
July 2, 2009, 02:40 PM
I enjoy shooting. I hate reloading. Why the heck would I want to do something stupid like having to reload for money?

And then, having to deal with all the problems of people with messed up firearms. Who will blame your ammunition for their dysfunctional guns, and try to get you to fix their guns for free.

Nope, reload for myself and the heck with the rest of the world.

RoostRider
July 2, 2009, 03:54 PM
I find reloading fun..... not fun enough to do for others, but fun....

I don't, on the other hand, get all paranoid about my friends using my reloads (for free). I don't keep the type of company that would sue you because of something like that. Sure there is a chance they could be killed and a family member would sue (not likely), but the chances of someone being killed by faulty ammo are pretty low..... gotta take some risks in this world to have fun....

Gadzooks Mike
July 2, 2009, 04:00 PM
Swapping reloads is like swapping underware - I don't use any but my own.

rondog
July 2, 2009, 04:05 PM
I like to reload, perhaps too much. I need to discipline myself to only make a few rounds at one load, bump up the powder a notch and make a few more, etc., then try them out for results. I tend to get setup and crank out a few hundred. Now I've got a few boxes of rounds in different calibers that I wish were just a little hotter. I wish my club range wasn't so far away....

Ain't NFW I'd want to do it as a business though.

freakshow10mm
July 2, 2009, 04:19 PM
Why the heck would I want to do something stupid like having to reload for money?
Because I make a living out of it. Much more than the last job I had.

RustyFN
July 2, 2009, 04:49 PM
Swapping reloads is like swapping underware

That's why I don't wear underware.:D :neener:

jjohnson
July 2, 2009, 06:12 PM
Yup - even if I felt like loading for others, I wouldn't do it - because the lawyers have created a no-win situation for guys that aren't industrial sized manufacturers. I don't even like sharing reloads with my best friend.

If you've ever loaded a squib or (way more exciting) a double charge :what: you understand.

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