What would be a great arsenal (limit 5)


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RoHoo
July 2, 2009, 05:37 PM
Returning home from a local gun show, my uncle and I had a discussion on what (5) firearms would be a minimum quality arsenal for someone just getting into guns (hunting, home defense, protection and/or practice). Open for any and all suggestions.

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CoRoMo
July 2, 2009, 05:41 PM
A hunting shotgun, a big game caliber hunting rifle, a rimfire rifle, a semi-automatic pistol, and a revolver.

I would not call that a 'great' arsenal. Not at all.
If I had four or five of each, then we're talking "great arsenal".

M1A National Match
July 2, 2009, 05:42 PM
A 22LR rifle; a 22LR handgun; a .223 or .308 rifle, bolt action or semi, your choice; a 12 gauge shotgun, and one centerfire handgun, 38/357, 9mm, or 45 ACP caliber for ease of ammo.

RoHoo
July 2, 2009, 05:45 PM
I stand corrected. The term "great arsenal" may not technically apply in this situation with a limit of (5).:)

Birdmang
July 2, 2009, 05:45 PM
I would get:
-9mm autoloading pistol.
-12 Gauge Pump
-.22LR Rifle
-.22LR pistol
-.223 AR

Its all preference.

BeltfedMG
July 2, 2009, 05:46 PM
HK MP5, M16, M240, M40 sniper rifle, HK 45 Tactical

That would cover all grounds needed, close, mid range, afar, mass groups and up close and personal

TheFallGuy
July 2, 2009, 05:51 PM
+1 to CoRoMo. I would add that the shotgun should have multiple barrels (HD, bird/trap, rifled).

george29
July 2, 2009, 05:51 PM
Mossberg 500/590 or Remington 870
AR-15
10/22
Single-Six Convertible
SBH

Fergy35
July 2, 2009, 05:55 PM
I'll play:

A 22LR rifle
A 12ga. shotgun (or a 20ga if you prefer)
A revolver - Something along the lines of a .357 will give you some good
choices. Use .38spl for practice and +p or full .357 for social
situations or even shotshell loads.
A semi-auto pistol for higher capacity needs.
A rifle - Maybe an AR, an AK if you want something with high capacity mags.
Or a larger caliber hunting type rifle.

Looks like CoRoMo beat me to it. Took me too long to type.

CoRoMo
July 2, 2009, 05:57 PM
If I was limited to no more than five, and to add specificity to my previous post...

Beretta 391 12ga.
Ruger M77 .270
Ruger 10/22
Springfield XD45
Ruger New Model Blackhawk .357/9mm

I already own three of these, the other two are on the list.

kwelz
July 2, 2009, 05:59 PM
Glock or M&P in 9mm
Revolver in .357 or .44
.22 Rifle
AR15 in .223
12 Gauge Shotgun

raskolnikov_22
July 2, 2009, 06:06 PM
Scoped AR10
AR15 w/ iron sights
870 12 gauge
Fieldmaster
GP100 .357 Magnum

Nate1778
July 2, 2009, 06:18 PM
12 gauge
9mm
.357
.308/30-06
12 gauge

tronester
July 2, 2009, 06:24 PM
Recce style AR 16-18" bbl
Springfield XD-9 Service
Remington 870 in 12 gauge
.308 precision bolt action rifle
.22lr pistol

Flea
July 2, 2009, 06:25 PM
Provided I would not be scrounging for ammo:
1911 chambered in 10mm.
.22LR rifle
.30-06 hunting rifle
12 gauge shotgun
AR-15 in 6.5 Grendel.

lebowski
July 2, 2009, 06:28 PM
1 semi auto pistol, in a service caliber but small enough to carry (i.e. G19/G23 or a Sig p239 or something)

1 pump or semi-auto shotgun, medium barrel length (~22-26") that accepts screw in chokes. Will serve double duty as home defense and hunting

1 AR15, 16" barrel M4gery

1 M1A, can do double duty as a battle rifle or used for hunting

1 Ruger 10/22

Matrix187
July 2, 2009, 06:30 PM
.22lr CZ Bolt Rifle, or a Semi, your preference

.30-06/.308 CZ 550 American

12 gauge Remington 870 Pump Shotgun

9mm CZ P-01 Pistol

AR15 from a reputable mfg. /w 20" barrel milled down to the pencil configuration

61chalk
July 2, 2009, 06:39 PM
1. Mossberg .12 ga. Slugs/Birdshot

2. M1 Garand 30/06

3. AR-15 .223

4. 1911 .45

5. GSG-5 .22LR

I'm all set....

22-rimfire
July 2, 2009, 06:47 PM
One big one, one middle sized, a couple of little ones, and one that spreads out when shot. It just depends on your lifestyle.

The Annoyed Man
July 2, 2009, 07:07 PM
- .22 LR, either a heavy barreled target pistol, or a rifle; accuracy being the key here. This one is for most of your meat harvesting.

- an accurized bolt rifle in some variant of a .308 caliber (.308 Win., .30-06, .300 Win. Mag.).

- a semi auto rifle of carbine length in .223, preferably an AR.

- a shotgun, preferably in 12 gauge.

- a large caliber pistol, either semi-auto or revolver, in either .45 ACP or .44 mag/.44 Special.

I would consider this to be a minimum for an arsenal, but not a great arsenal. However this is not a minimum for survival. My survival list would be one pistol and one rifle. Caliber .4+ for the pistol, and .30+ for the rifle.

Fortunately for me, I have way more toys than that. :evil:

tfitzmsu
July 2, 2009, 07:22 PM
First time to this forum:

My Benelli SBE II 12 ga
My Rem Nylon 66 22 rimfire
1911 45 ACP
Wife's Ruger Single 6
MIA or MI Gurand (just cause I want one).

But that is just me!

florida1098
July 2, 2009, 07:36 PM
glock 27
glock 20
ar 15
mosserg shotgun
32 cal kel tec

Gamera
July 2, 2009, 07:39 PM
A great arsenal?

I'd go for an all steel and concrete structure, with a nice lawn and a sleek interior, complete with stainless steel fixtures and mood lighting. I'd probably have some blast doors, and maybe a watchtower and a helicopter pad on top.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal
:p

Mags
July 2, 2009, 07:47 PM
Mossberg 500 in 12 Gauge with 18 and 28 inch barrels
AR 15 A3 with 16 inch barrel and 22 LR conversion and standard 5.56 chambering
AR 10 with 20 inch barrel chambered in 308
1911 with 22 LR conversion as well as standard 45 ACP
Glock 23 with 40, 357 sig and 9mm barrels

I think I cheated a little bit. :)

NC-Mike
July 2, 2009, 08:08 PM
MIA
M4 type AR
Browning Hi Power
1911
10-22

45Badger
July 2, 2009, 08:11 PM
remington ltr in .308
m1a
remington 870 combo barrels
1911 pistol
ruger mark 2 pistol

CCWB
July 2, 2009, 08:16 PM
I agree with a 22 lr pistol and rifle, both are great for practice and cheap on ammo.
I agree with the 12 gauge with multi barrels and a bolt action rifle in like 270 or 30-06.
Finally_ for a new owner_ I'd suggest a wheel gun in 357 or 45LC.

If you don't like my 2 cents, you have 30 days left for a full refund.

gotime242
July 2, 2009, 08:32 PM
Pretty much all i have now:

Big pistol: FNP9
Small Pistol: PF9
Long Range: Rem700 Var .308
Medium: RRA AR15
Short: Rem 870 12ga

jfh
July 2, 2009, 08:38 PM
I'll vote with Gamera. Perhaps it's time for some members here to consider learning nuances of the gunny's standard lexicon.

Five firearms constitute a modest collection.

Jim H.

WTBguns10kOK
July 2, 2009, 08:50 PM
In order of importance

1. 50 bmg for general use
2. Phoenix arms .25 (with +p)
3. FN 57 for backup to the phoenix
4. 300 WSSM for small game
5. HiPoint 9mm for second backup

Dr.Rob
July 2, 2009, 08:56 PM
Five is a handful, not an arsenal. Don't let the bad guys and antis dictate the words you use.

Yo Mama
July 2, 2009, 08:58 PM
I don't like the question. 5 guns do not equal an arsenal. I hate the term, and feel it degrates our position.

CGisler90
July 2, 2009, 09:02 PM
1. Glock Model 23
2. .38 Special Wheel Pistols
3. Remington 30-06
4. Mossberg 500 tactical Persuader
5. Maybe a .50 muzzleloader?

ScareyH22A
July 2, 2009, 09:24 PM
Desert Eagle .50AE
Barrett .50 Cal
S&W .500 Magnum Revolver
.50 Beowulf
Saiga 12
:p

ArfinGreebly
July 2, 2009, 09:29 PM
Not to be a wet blanket, but "arsenal" is typical hyperbole (exaggeration, overstatement) that's used by the media to frighten folks and characterize people who have adequate stocks of weapons and ammo as "crazy."

Here is an aerial view of an arsenal. My dad worked here. It's in Alabama.

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=100752&d=1246580828

. . . and another . . .

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=100754&d=1246581142


I understand the word is used in fun.

You should also have a grasp of what an actual arsenal is and the scale of such a thing.

When the media goes off on one of it's "Mr. Jones had an entire arsenal of firearms" rants, you'll be able to appreciate the magnitude of the lie.

61chalk
July 2, 2009, 09:33 PM
"Don't like the word arsenal...?....degrates our position....?"

arsenal/ A dockyard; public establishment to store arms, ammunition, etc., for military an naval use; ANY repository OR collection of weapons.

Who cares what bad guys or anti's think is politically correct.

ArfinGreebly
July 2, 2009, 09:41 PM
No need to take it too seriously.

Just trying to provide a little perspective.

You know, like the difference between your reloading bench and "OMG! He's got an ammo factory!"

Around here, just between us girls, if you wanna call it an arsenal, we all understand it's all in fun.

Knock yerself out.

Some people, though, don't actually have a point of reference other than what's provided by the media.

So now those folks will have some idea of scale.

Remember, not all of us are old farts who've actually been to these places.

jfh
July 2, 2009, 09:42 PM
61chalk: Actually, I care.

The reason I care is that, for the past twenty-some years at least, the antis and the MSM have chosen the language to describe firearms. Those choices have been solely intended to either demonize firearms or instill fear on the part of the general public.

The time has come to take that issue back, using terms, concepts, and definitions that are part of the standard lexicon. That's why I posted that comment, and why you'll also see me usually jump in when someone talks about "assault weapons" or misuses the term 'assault rifle.'

The more accurate we are, the better the correct language and concepts will reinforce firearms as a positive feature of the American (US) experience. Precision in language is a desired characteristic; it's not an issue of political correctness.

Jim H.

Dogbite
July 2, 2009, 09:44 PM
1. Remington or Mossburg 12 gauge pump, 21" barrel . Hunting birds, squirrels, home defense.

2. Glock 30. Concealed carry and home defense.

3. Remington bolt action rifle in 300 win short mag/ Leupold glass. Hunting any big game on this continent, light, easy to carry.

4. Smith and Wesson 357 magnum. Hunting small to medium game, home defense. Can plink with 38's, or load full power 357 mag-very versatile.

5. SA58 FAL 308 battle rifle. Balls to the wall battle rifle for when/if the poop hits the oscillator.

There you go, I can hunt anything, defend the home, and defend while out and about in town.

The_Shootist
July 2, 2009, 09:50 PM
S&W 686+ (Pre-ILS) in 4" bbl
G19
S&W 617 in 6" bbl
Remington 870
AK-47

bernie
July 2, 2009, 09:53 PM
Heavy barrel, scoped, Ruger 10/22
Smith & Wesson 686
Remington 12 gauge 870 with a 21" turkey barrel with choke tubes, and a rifled, scoped slug barrel
Short barrel, flat top AR15
M1 Rifle

Blarelli
July 2, 2009, 10:04 PM
-10/22 rifle
-AR-15 in 6.5 or 6.8 mm (take care of the deer gun and semi-auto in one package)
-Remington 870 w/ replaceable barrels.
-CZ Rami in 9mm for carry, yet still decent capacity.
-FNP, or H&K for a full sized .45.

CZ223
July 2, 2009, 10:40 PM
They would be:
1) My Glock 23 40 S&W with spare barrel for 357 Sig for HD/SD
2) One of my Ar-15s for HD SHTF small game
3) My 870 HD shotgun HD and hunting
4) My Savage Model 12 BVSS in 223 with spare barrels hunting/long range
5) This one is tough maybe because I have quite a few to choose from. My choices are a second Glock, my 1911(which I love), another of my Savages, my Saiga 7.62x39 or my Marlin 22 take-down. I think, by the smallest of margins that the Marlin would be my choice for practice and small game.

msiley
July 2, 2009, 10:50 PM
1. CZ 75 in your choice of calibers plus .22 LR conversion kit. (could do this with other also).
2. A high quality .22 LR Rifle (I like Marlin and especially the CZ 452 series)
3. Bolt action rifle in .308 or .30-06. You now have most game covered in North America.
4. .357 Mag Revolver. Versatile: hunting, self-defense, etc.
5. .357 Mag. Lever Action Carbine. For home defense or hunting.

I know, I know no shotgun. I'm just not a huge shotgun person. :-)

tubeshooter
July 2, 2009, 11:36 PM
1) Shotgun

2) .22lr rifle

3) Centerfire handgun

4) Centerfire rifle

5) Your pick - I'd probably go with a .22lr handgun



Platforms, makes, models and whatnot... up to you.

jordan1948
July 3, 2009, 12:11 AM
.22 rifle of what ever choice you like, I have no favorite, for plinking
Remington 870 28" barrel, good for birds and some varmits
M1A .308, for medium to large game
Remington 870 18" barrel, for the two legged critters
Springfield 1911, for..............why wouldn't you want one?

AcceptableUserName
July 3, 2009, 12:21 AM
imo -

12 gauge pump shotgun with open choke and extra barrel for hunting
ar-15 with sturdy barrel
bolt action 30.06
1911 .45 cal pistol
Glock 19 9mm or Glock 21c .45 cal pistol


Was really hard to omit a wheelgun though.

mljdeckard
July 3, 2009, 12:22 AM
I am in a position where I have to prioritize because as much as I would LIKE to have a varied, nuanced arsenal, I'm on a budget, and I have to narrow it down to what I need. BUT, at the same time, I have also recently reflected, that even if I were rich and I could carry anything I wanted to, I would still spend most of my time with this core arsenal.

Rem 870 express synthetic. Both full-length and tactical barrels.)
Kimber Custom II 1911 (With .22 conversion kit.)
S&W (Howa) Model 1500 in .270, which I happened into for free.
Yugo SKS which I tapcoed and techsighted.
Inland M-1 Carbine

I also have a Nylon 66 .22 rifle, but I consider it mostly for the kids. My dad has a more extensive collection including a lot of bolt rifles for hunting and varminting. But this collection more than covers my needs and level of shooting skill.

A few things on my wish list include; matched custom-built Mausers or Remingtons in at least three different calibers to cover a full variety of ranges, from 22-250 to something in the magnum family, A 4" Python in good shape, and I just fount the STI Perfect 10, which is something I would normally snort at for the high price tag, but in this case, a 6" well built 10mm sounds VERY appealing. I don't know if I'll ever have $2k to drop on something like that.

orionengnr
July 3, 2009, 12:32 AM
I will answer with my opinion...starting with category, followed by an example.

One .22 LR rifle (Ruger 10-22 or Glenfield Model 60)
One shotgun (Remington M-870)
One centerfire rifle (Remington M-700 in 30.06)
One all-round handgun (S&W M-66)

One discretionary pistol or rifle to fill in any blanks missed (my choice would be a 1911)

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
July 3, 2009, 12:34 AM
Strongly disagree with a .22 pistol - that's a fun gun. A rifle is for hunting & self-defense, in any caliber.

Just five, eh?

1. Shotgun (pump or semi), 12 ga. Preferably with 2 barrels (one hunting & one self-defense).
2. Rifle, rimfire - turnbolt, lever, pump or semi, .22lr
3. Defensive & multi-purpose handgun, preferably in 9x19, .38 super, 9x23, 10mm, .45 acp., .44 spec., .357mag, or .45 colt. Can be revo or semi pistol.
4. Centerfire rifle in "full powered" bottlenecked caliber, preferably a turnbolt - anywhere from .243 to .30-06.
5. .50 cal muzzleloader; preferably a Savage 10ML, if legal in your state to use for hunting (if hunting is included), OR a combo target & self-defense rifle - an AR15 or similar with a 20" HB, in 5.56x45mm / .223 rem (if hunting is not included)

fireman 9731
July 3, 2009, 12:40 AM
Gamera wins!

christcorp
July 3, 2009, 12:50 AM
Remington 870 12 guage: Home defense, Small Game/Bird Hunting, Some larger game hunting
Ruger 10/22 22LR: 22LR is the BEST survival gun. Can take just about ALL food sources. Cheap Practice
Bolt action 7mm magnum: NOTHING in North America that it can't take hunting. Small 140 grain for varmint and small game through antelope; all the way to 175 grain for moose. Can shoot long range or short range.
S&W 357 magnum revolver: BEST all around caliber. Can shoot as light as a 380/9mm or as heavy or more than a 40/10mm/45acp/44spl. Can do ANYTHING that ANY other round can do except for 44 mag. Can shoot cheaper 38 specials for practice.
45acp for a carry gun. Slow and big. Perfect for self defense. With the right gun; easy enough to carry.

Personally; I believe you MUST have a 6th gun. If you did, it would be an AK-47 style 7.62x39. Most reliable of all military style weapons. Easiest to break down, clean, and maintain. Accurate. Excellent availability of ammo. It's a 30 caliber, which means you can get ammo with soft points and have a good short range hunting rifle with the same ballistics as a 30-30 winchester.

Between these 6 you can cover ALL hunting scenarios. (Including the 357 magnum for some hunting). You can cover Home defense with the 357 magnum and the remington 12 gauge. You've got your carry protection. You've got the 22lr for practice and survival. (Survival means SMALL QUIET guns. You can't tote out big game. A 22lr can take all the small game; as well as deer with head shots. And the AK style will handle any urban or multi-attack scenarios as well as a good short range brush gun for some hunting. Have these and every scenario is covered.

Kentucky
July 3, 2009, 12:53 AM
In order of importance:

1. AR-15
2. G17
3. AR-10
4. Ruger 10-22
5. Mossberg 500 or 870

Yo Mama
July 3, 2009, 01:00 AM
Who cares what bad guys or anti's think is politically correct.


Because they want to point at anything to make us look bad. Don't feed them. Even something innocent can come back to bite us.

"Oh, and you bragged about your arsenal. Good thing we are taking them from you."

FlyinBryan
July 3, 2009, 02:08 AM
for me its like this.

my fav five.

remington 1100 12g. holds 6 rounds of 2 3/4"
semi auto 22 with bookoo extra 30rd mags.
16" ar15 with 6 position stock and freefloat tube.
1944 springfield m1 garand in 30-06
1911 lightweight commander in what else? 45acp.

i could almost trade the 22 rifle for my browning buckmark pistol. 1 awesome little plinker

FlyinBryan
July 3, 2009, 02:21 AM
Strongly disagree with a .22 pistol - that's a fun gun.

one of the o.p's terms was "practice"

besides, everyone could use a little fun.

i love my browning 22 pistol. its super accurate and i could take small game no prob with it. might even could take small stuff up to 35-40 yds with it.

i think everyone should own a quality 22 pistol. its a great trainer too.

VirgilCaine
July 3, 2009, 02:26 AM
Hmmmmm.

-M44 Mosin-Nagant. High-vis sights. Maybe a scope mount and threaded for a silencer?

-.22 semi-auto rifle with threaded barrel (& silencer). Perhaps scoped?

-.44 Special snub revolver with laser grips for pocket carry.

-9mm Browning High Power clone, threaded barrel (& silencer).

-AK-74, heavy barrel, folding stock, laser sight, bayonet lug, high-vis sights. Maybe SBRed to 14" or so? Have to check the ballistics.

Got two out of five. I think I could live with this setup.

Seenterman
July 3, 2009, 02:32 AM
Ruger 10/22 - .22
AR-15 - .223 16" barrel
Mossburg 500 - 12 Gauge, 18" barrel / 00 Buckshot & Slugs! (Maybe some birdshot too)
Remington 770 XCR - .308
Sig Sauer P250 - .357

Glass on all the rifles. Laser on the shotgun and the pistol.

doc2rn
July 3, 2009, 02:47 AM
handi-rifle that way you get any caliber and any shotgun with an all in one
AR similar principle pick the upper of your flavor
Shotgun 12 or 20 pick your fav sxs o/u pump
Centerfire pistol like a glock 19/ colt 45acp with a conversion top to .22lr
Revolver preferably a .357 that also takes .38s and with moonclips 9mm.

glockman19
July 3, 2009, 02:53 AM
I love these threads.

S&W 686 .357 mag
Colt, Kimber, Springfield 1911 style .45
Remington or mossburg 12 gauge shotgun
M1A
Remington 700 CDL .308 or .30-06

BHP FAN
July 3, 2009, 02:56 AM
Four BHP'S and a mini 14.

PTK
July 3, 2009, 03:07 AM
Four BHP'S and a mini 14.
I didn't see that coming....





....why the Mini-14? :neener:

NC-Mike
July 3, 2009, 03:19 AM
I didn't see that coming....





....why the Mini-14?



Just in case none of the Hi-Powers worked. :neener:








Just kidding... :o

ArfinGreebly
July 3, 2009, 04:47 AM
. . . a discussion on what (5) firearms would be a minimum . . . for someone just getting into guns . . .

Just getting into guns?

Well, you need a .22 rifle and a .22 pistol. When you're just getting into guns, plenty of practice is indicated.

Then, I would think, a decent service calibre pistol for self defense.

A medium calibre rifle for varmints and home defense.

A more serious rifle for hunting bigger game.

Okay, that's five, and we don't have a shotgun.

So let's see what we can combine. We need a varmint rifle, home defense rifle, and medium-to-large game rifle. There are a few candidates for the "all in one" medium rifle. The .223 cartridge is fine for varmints and home defense, but generally not recommended for large game, so we skip that. The M1 Carbine can do varmints and home defense, and has taken its share of deer and other game, so it's a candidate; trouble is there's not a wide variety of loadings and projectiles for that rifle, so . . .

How about a .357 carbine? That shoots .38s and .357s, so there's a wide selection of power and loads, and a bunch of bullet types to choose from. It's a competent cartridge for defense, and the .357 is a viable hunting round even when used in a revolver, and the ammo selection is very rich. Okay, that'll do. Now we have a weapon for varmints, home defense, and hunting.

That leaves a slot open for a shotgun.

Oh, and we haven't discussed the service calibre pistol yet . . . let's keep it simple and go with something in 9mm, compact enough to carry but with enough capacity to handle multiple threats.


Review:

.22 rifle
.22 pistol
9mm pistol
.357 carbine
12 ga shotgun

From my own experience, then (except for the 12 ga),

.22 rifle = Ruger 10/22, an excellent piece for someone getting started.
.22 pistol = Ruger Mk II or Mk III pistol.
9mm pistol = Taurus Millenium Pro PT111, compact/concealable, 12 rounds of 9x19 goodness.
.357 carbine = Marlin 1894C, light, decent capacity, adequate calibre for broad range of applications.
12 ga shotgun = let's go with a Rem 870. I don't have a shotgun, so I'm going generic.

I think, for a guy getting started, this would cover most of the applications and still leave him some cash for ammo.

I have other possible combinations, but it's late, and I'm tired.

I'm gonna go tip over.

JohnKSa
July 3, 2009, 04:57 AM
Centerfire bolt action rifle chambered for a cartridge in the 6.5mm to 7.62mm caliber range.

.22LR rifle (user's action preference)

Remington 870 .12ga shotgun

.22LR handgun (user's action preference)

Centerfire handgun in a service pistol caliber (9mm, .38Spl, .357Mag, .40S&W, .45ACP, .357SIG, etc.)

federalfarmer
July 3, 2009, 11:47 AM
1. Mauser in .375 H&H

2. Remington 700 in .270 Weatherby

3. Kimber SIS .45

4. Ruger 10/22 w/extra's

5. Benilli SBE

Then to be happy lets do the Kimber in several frame sizes and the .270 in several lengths; and the Ruger well :evil:

(spelling is gfd)

61chalk
July 3, 2009, 12:27 PM
jfh...I believe I see your point of view, we both don't like the anti's, my thoughts are that they can "demonize" any word an thing...like "demonizing" the word "semi-auto", they even demonize "guns" an "weapon"....I'm not going to bow to them an start calling my guns an semi-auto rifles, "my tools", because "gun" frightens them. "Arsenal" is not a bad word, they can "demonize" it, but it doesn't make it bad, an I'm not bowing an going to make it a "demonized" word. ....."hello, would you like to see my small collection of Ruger an Colt tools..?" I just don't like being manipulated like that by them...this is just me, we both don't like the anti's, just different styles an outlooks, I'm always learning...an my opionion may very well be wrong on this, I'm always willing to learn...

biblefreak
July 3, 2009, 12:50 PM
If limited to 5 they would be as follows:

1911 in .45 for cc/sd with GOOD holster/belt and add a .22lr slide for a semi-auto .22lr handgun
Bolt rifle in .22lr that will also run shorts and cb's with decent glass
Revolver in .22lr (prefer a Single Six with a .22 mag cylinder)
Pump shotgun in 12ga with a short and long bbl so it can be made handy for hd or hunting
Bolt rifle in .270 (assuming you reload, you can load up or down as needed per critter) with good glass

You didn't mention it, but a good reloading setup is a must have in my book.

I think that would set my needs up very well if given a max of 5 firearms. But hey, life is short, why limit yourself to only 5??!!

Devilfrog
July 3, 2009, 12:56 PM
Since limited to 5:
1) Remington 870 shotgun
2) Quality AR-15
3) Savage 110 bolt action .30-06
4) Ruger 10/22
5) Springfield Armory XD45

Dravur
July 3, 2009, 01:38 PM
1 .50 Cal Machine gun
2 .50 Cal Machine gun as a backup
3 an Atomic bomb
4 Backup Bomb
5 10/22 Ruger

22-rimfire
July 3, 2009, 03:26 PM
I will assume you have some experience shooting, but never really thought about buying anything for yourself or you are young. I will also assume you don't have a small fortune to spend. Whether or not you hunt is a big qualification; it is not stated, so I will assume that you don't at this time.

My suggestion would be as follows and purchase would be in this chronologic order. This is not a complete and thoroughly versatile list, but I had to think back to when I started and what guns were important to learn to shoot, provide a lot of fun and recreation, and perform basic functions.

(1) 22 rifle such as a Marlin Model 60 or Ruger 10/22
(2) 22 handgun; I would choose either a Ruger Mark II/III or Browning Buckmark
Learn to shoot these first!

(3) 9mm or 40 S&W pistol, probably a Glock if they feel good in your hand. They are very reliable. I would make it one of their medium sized models as I find they are the best compromise between size and shootability.
(4) Basic centerfire rifle, probably a 223 and probably a Remington M700 or Savage. If you like the military styled rifles, I would consider an AR or Ruger Mini 14 if you lean that way.
(5) Shotgun; probably a 12 ga Remington Model 870. Choose the barrel length to suit your use. Short barrel for home defense and longer barrel for trap, skeet, or hunting. You can also buy an extra barrel down the road as well to increase the versatility of the shotgun.

What comes next? Feel free to substitute #6 or #5 if you don't feel a shotgun fits your accumulation at this point.

(6) Next gun would probably be for carry if you have that desire. I prefer a revolver and something like the Smith 642 fills that void nicely. You can use it for both home and personal protection as needed. You can carry a medium sized pistol (#3), but concealing it is a little more difficult and is less comfortable in general. Learning to shoot is more important than getting a firearm that is geared toward concealed carry but is less fun to shoot.

From here, the only limiting factor is your wallet and interests. I would choose a 4" or 6" 357 mag revolver. In my case, the 357 mag followed a number of rifles geared toward hunting, a traditional pump shotgun, and a couple 22's. I wanted to use the 357 mag for whitetail hunting and home defense, but later decided that the 357 mag isn't quite large enough for whitetail hunting and bought a 41 mag revolver for this purpose. A 357 is a very versatile firearm and one that should probably be included in a handgun accumulation.

Ed Ames
July 3, 2009, 05:11 PM
1 deep concealment/backup gun (P3AT, 37, etc)
1 magnum revolver (e.g. .357 or .454... I'll take the .454)
1 lever gun chambered in the revolver's cartridge.
1 1911
1 shotgun (imo 20ga semi-auto e.g. al391)

Of course, that limits you to about 100 yards... not the best range. You could trade the shotgun for a garand but breaking clays is fun too.

Just proves that 5 isn't enough.

cbrgator
July 3, 2009, 05:14 PM
9mm Semi-Auto Pistol
22lr Rifle
12GA Shotgun (pump or semi)
30-06 Rifle
AR-15

midmoboy
July 3, 2009, 05:18 PM
Remington 870 in 12
Savage bolt action (any of them are great) in 7mm Mag
Ruger Super Redhawk 44 mag
Winchester 67 .22 (hard choices when talking 22's)
1911 in 38 super (somewhere between stun (9mm) and mush (45)

tju1973
July 3, 2009, 05:36 PM
Economy and versatility to start with---

1) Marlin 60-- plinking and squirrell hunting
2) New Mossberg Mav 88 or a good used 870-- had the 88, sold it and bought a like new 870 from a doctor down the road for $150--
3) Good pistol-- I opted for an XD45-- mainly because I shot it and a G36-- Likes Glocks, but I love XDs!
4) Some sort of EBR/"Assault rifle"-- hate that term-- I wanted an AR, but money and circumstance pushed a WASR 10 my way-- and at $400 (which may be high, but I bought it last August), I don' t regret it...
5) Finally, a good bolt action-- probably a Savage or a CZ, and probably in 30-06 or 308-- but I would probably go for 30-06...

Runner up-- Lever action 30-30 and some sort of revolver in 38spl or 357 mag--

BeltfedMG
July 3, 2009, 07:13 PM
I cant beleive i seen someone say a hipoint????? Are you kiddin me? Please say so.

oneounceload
July 3, 2009, 07:24 PM
1- a .22 lr, handgun or rifle
2- a medium caliber handgun for SD and small game - 9mm to .45
3 - a shotgun for hunting and clays....preferably a nice O/U
4 - a medium bore rifle in something like 260, 7-08, 308
5 - something for total fun and others to use

BushyGuy
July 3, 2009, 07:27 PM
Bushmaster AR 5.56x45mm barrel
Ruger M77 .308
.22lr semi-auto Savage or Ruger
9mm with barrel 4 inches
.12 gauge pump or semi-auto

Buckhannon
July 3, 2009, 07:29 PM
:rolleyes: 357 Smith& Wesson revolver
Glock 22 (40 cal) auto
22 cal rifle with scope
12 ga. shotgun
Springfield m-14 :scrutiny:

oneounceload
July 3, 2009, 07:31 PM
amazing how many folks are ONLY looking at survival of SHTF scenarios.....there IS more to life than that people

Sir Aardvark
July 3, 2009, 10:50 PM
AR15 in .223
Rem 700 in .308
1911 in .45ACP
Rem 870 in 12ga (with multiple barrels)
S&W 686 in .38/.357mag

These are all pretty much mainstream firearms and easy to get parts for.

Of course, if allowed a 6th firearm it would be something in a .22LR caliber, such as a Ruger 10/22 or Ruger MarkII pistol.

ArfinGreebly
July 3, 2009, 11:04 PM
I can tell not everyone is actually reading the posts.

This one is a real chuckle.

from post #29

In order of importance

1. 50 bmg for general use
2. Phoenix arms .25 (with +p)
3. FN 57 for backup to the phoenix
4. 300 WSSM for small game
5. HiPoint 9mm for second backup

:D

Nicely played.

hilega
July 3, 2009, 11:24 PM
1. Ruger MKII
2. S&W 19
3. M9
4. Remington 870
5. AR-15

thesecond
July 3, 2009, 11:42 PM
I'll play, too .... but, an 'arsenal'? :rolleyes:

(1) .50 BMG rifle
(2) Colt AR-15 (.223/5.56)
(3) Kel-tec PLR-16 (.223/5.56)
(4) Remington 870 12 gauge
(5) 9mm semi-auto (Glock/Sigarms/CZ) w/.22 conversion kit.

.... And a tactical wheelbarrow.

BlackHand1917
July 3, 2009, 11:42 PM
Browning Hi-Power 9mm
Any semi-auto AK
S&W Model 60 .38spl. 2in.
AR-15 series
Mossberg Model 500 12ga pump

scythefwd
July 4, 2009, 01:58 AM
Ooooooo, I'll play. If we are allowed to have multiple barrels for a gun:

1. a .357, use .38's for practice (hd) (brand agnostic)

2. a 22lr bolt action rifle for working on form (plinking, practice) (brand agnostic, but I like mossbergs) (cheap will work)

3. a T/C encore or CVA Optima elite with: (350 for the optima with 1 centerfire barrel, barrels are about 200 each)
1 .50 cal Muzzle loading barrel (just for the experience)
1 .308 win., 30 -06, or 300 win mag barrel (big game, varmiting)
1 .223 or 243 barrel (varmiting)
1 12 Ga barrel (water fowl, game)

4. a mossberg 500 (HD, trap, hunting) (300 for this setup right now)
1 smooth bore with full, mod, and cyl chokes
1 rifled barrel for slugs

5. .50 BMG (why the heck not??) (hey, a guy can dream can't he.... the top four cover all needs and can be done for around 1200 total if you only have one centerfire barrel on the optima)


If we can't have multiple barrels
1. any .357/.38 (hd / range fun)
2. Mossberg 500 with a smooth bore (HD, hunting, trap) (about $200)
3. any .22lr or .22 mag (to work on technique, short range varmiting, plinking) (about $150)
4. savage 110 .308 or 30-06 or 7mm mag (big game hunting, long range target) (about $400)
5. .223 or .243 for varmiting
again, your five guns very well could end up less than $1200 dollars, especially if you are willing to use iron sights.

bigalexe
July 4, 2009, 02:23 AM
1.) 12-gauge Shotgun, Mossberg 500 for the versatility and customization
2.) .22LR Savage Mk II, or comparable bolt action rifle in same caliber for small game and practice
3.) .30-06 Bolt Action Rifle, Large Game and long range
4.) Handgun in whatever caliber you feel most comfortable with, your carry gun
5.) AR, SKS, AK-47 ect. Assault Rifle in whatever caliber you feel is the most fun and affordable. This one is for target blasting fun and maybe serious business if things really go south in your neighborhood (apologizes to the real south but saying SHTF was redundant).

Thats my wishlist, so far I've acquired #1 and am working on #2 with the money im making this summer.

THE DARK KNIGHT
July 4, 2009, 06:05 AM
Mossberg 590a1
7.62x39 AK variant
AR-15
Ruger 10/22
S&W 686 .357 Magnum Revolver 4"

cottonmouth
July 4, 2009, 06:42 AM
870 12 ga, B-78 in 45-70, AR-15, 10/22, 1911

J.B.

mcdonl
July 4, 2009, 08:36 AM
Interesting thread... I used this sort of thinking in selecting my guns that I *need* and then the rest are just for fun..

Medium semi (S&W 410S)
Mossberg 12g
Hunting rifle (30/30 and Mosin)
AR-15
10/22

Others lost in boating accident....

22MAG revolver
small carry gun

But then what?

I want a garand and 1911....

PAPACHUCK
July 4, 2009, 10:23 AM
1) .22 semi rifle - Marlin 60 or ruger 10/22
2) Offensive rifle - AR15 in .223 or AK/SKS(w/Tapco 20rd'rs)
3) Bolt-Action - .308 w/good glass - Savage,Ruger,Rem, Brng,etc.
4) Pump Shotgun - Moss 500 or Rem 870 in 12ga.
5) Defensive handgun - 9mm,40,45,357sig/mag of a quality brand pistol you shoot well.

Radagast
July 4, 2009, 10:53 AM
Hmm. Based on what I have and what I plan to get:

.17 HMR bolt rifle. A much better option for small game hunting than the .22lr. CZ452 being my preference, with a good scope.

.243 bolt rifle. Suitable for pretty much everything that the .17 HMR can't kill. Howa 1500 is my choice, based on it being inexpensive, accurate and reliable.

9mm pistol. For home defence, range shooting and gun games. Glock 17. It is the jack of all trades gun.

.22 handgun: S&W model 18.

Centerfire revolver: S&W model 66. If concealed carry is an option, then swap this for a model 642.

I'm not a fan of shotgun shooting, so I have left these out. The above list will provide for most hunting, self defence and plinking scenarios, with some gun games thrown in.

22-rimfire
July 4, 2009, 11:56 AM
A more outdoors oriented 5-gun starter package for a person who is likely to hunt in TN or KY:

...(hunting, home defense, protection and/or practice).

22 rifle; Ruger 10/22 or Marlin Model 60. I’d choose the Marlin.
Remington Model 700 243 win for combination varmint and whitetail hunting
This would be modified to 270-308-30-06 for whitetail hunting and 223 for varmint hunting (two rifles) or stictly the 270-308-30-06 for deer hunting and no varmint hunting.
Smith Model 17 or 18 22 revolver (or 617), or Ruger Mark III w/5.5" bull barrel
Remington 870 12ga with 26-28” barrel and screw in chokes or carry gun such as a Smith 642 if you are unlikely to hunt small game.
Smith or Ruger 357 mag revolver (5” 686 or 4” GP100)

There is a difference between being a shooter and being a hunter. Hunters are often both.

Walkalong
July 4, 2009, 12:08 PM
Five is hardly an Arsenal............

Kevin5098
July 4, 2009, 12:34 PM
The choices really depend on the job(s) the guns are expected to perform, just as if someone asked which 5 tools to choose. A circular saw won't be much use fixing a sink. Even qualifying the question as pertaining to someone just getting into firearms requires knowledge of what their goals are. If they have no idea what their ultimate goal is, then three may suffice - .22 pistol, .22 rifle and 20 or 12 Ga shotgun. Experience with these three could then lead to definition of their ultimate shooting/collecting goals.

I'm happy with the three I own - Ruger GP100, 12 GA Remington 1100, and M1 Garand. Future Acquisitions will be for my wife (to go with her Remington 870) and will depend on her shooting interests.

Kevin

ChCx2744
July 4, 2009, 04:50 PM
A good semi-auto rifle for all around, a good bolt action rifle to reach out and touch em, a good shotgun for up close, a good large-frame/mid-frame pistol as your primary sidearm and a good back-up weapon on your vest or on your anklefor ALL HELL SHTF.

Mr.510
July 4, 2009, 07:47 PM
Here are my picks, in order of importance with what I'd choose from my collection to fill each roll:

1) Major caliber carry gun. (XD45C)

2) 12 Gauge Shotgun. (Winchester 1200, 28" full choke.)

3) .22 Rifle with a quality scope. (Ruger 10/22)

4) Battle/Hunting Rifle with optic. (Saiga .308)

5) .22 Pistol for lots and lots of cheap practice. (Ruger 22/45)

I think those would cover all the bases well in just about any situation. If you lived in one of the ginormous cities and pretty much never left it you'd probably be well served to trade the .22 rifle for a New York backup of #1 and get the .22 pistol 3rd. Your results may vary.....

Dravur
July 5, 2009, 03:16 PM
amazing how many folks are ONLY looking at survival of SHTF scenarios.....there IS more to life than that people

Thats why I went with the 2 Atomic weapons.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
July 5, 2009, 03:46 PM
In order of importance

1. 50 bmg for general use
2. Phoenix arms .25 (with +p)
3. FN 57 for backup to the phoenix
4. 300 WSSM for small game
5. HiPoint 9mm for second backup

Was that GunKid or Gecko45? :)

jdub102003
July 5, 2009, 04:26 PM
Remington 870- hunting/home defense
Ruger 10/22- Squirrels/soda can plinking
Remington 700 .270 big game hunting
Ruger p95 9mm self defense
Ruger .38 special revolver for ccw

Can you guess which gun companies I like?

clemsonu0219
July 5, 2009, 04:42 PM
1. Pump 12 gauge shotgun - 870?

2. 30-06 - probably Remington 700

3. Glock 17

4. A .22 - Ruger 10/22

5. Assault rifle - AR-15, AK, 556, something to this effect.

SupernovaNole
July 5, 2009, 05:05 PM
I'm working on my 5 right now:

1: Handgun - HK USP 9c [Fitted with a Surefire tactical light for home defense]
2: Handgun - HK P7M8 [With a Milt Sparks IWB holster for concealed carry]
3: Rifle - HK MR223 or HK MR556 [The only item I don't have yet. Will decide which caliber when they are finally released]
4: .22 rifle - Henry AR-7 survival rifle
5: 12 gauge Shotgun - Benelli Supernova Pump Tactical

SupernovaNole

Mr Thundermaker
July 5, 2009, 10:04 PM
1. remington 700 30/06 w/leupold vari x III 4.5X14 50mm

2. remington 870 12 gauge w/21 inch barrel with choke tubes

3. ruger 10/22 w/leupold vari x II 3X9 40mm

4. colt m4 6920

5. glock 17 9mm

sherman123
July 5, 2009, 10:57 PM
Remington 870 12 gauge
Ak-47
Remington 700 7mm
Glock 20
M99 Vulcan 20mm

Publius1688
July 6, 2009, 02:10 AM
OK, I'll go along:
1. an autoloading pistol in a common caliber: S&M or Glock, 9mm or .45
2. a semi auto 22LR rifle: Ruger 10/22
3. a 12 ga shotgun, pump or auto.
4. a tactical rifle: AK47, AR15, or if you've got the $$, HK.
5. A cold carry revolver in .38 special. (we all know what 'cold carry' means, right?).

RoHoo
July 6, 2009, 12:05 PM
Just wanted to thank everyone for their input. I am new to owning guns and am in the process of trying to learn as much as I can from all the experience here on THR - Your advice will certainly be headed for my upcoming purchases!

My collection to date:

1.) .357 Revolver - S&W 686 (7 shot)
2.) Shotgun - 870 Remington 12 gauge
3.)
4.)
5.)

Reloading equipment is also on my priority list - I am reading all about now, but will start aquiring soon.

FiREhAwk
July 6, 2009, 03:58 PM
If we are talking about non NFA

AR-15
A-bolt "any reputable bolt action" in 30-06 or .308 with good glass
XD or glock in 45 or 9
870 ESM
10-22

EdLaver
July 6, 2009, 04:04 PM
Barrett .50 BMG
Springfield XD Tactical .45 ACP
M4gery chambered in 6.8 spc
AR10
Mossberg SPX 930

This is the ultimate arsenal in my book...;)

Ed Wagner
July 6, 2009, 04:52 PM
870 Rem. 12 ga.
Marllin M 60 22
1911 45 ACP
Mosin 91/30
Ruger single Action 22 Revolver

wickedsprint
July 6, 2009, 05:26 PM
1911 .45

Mossberg 12GA

Something with a scope and some reach...just about anything center fire is suitable.

kva47
July 17, 2009, 06:40 PM
1)10/22
2)Mossberg 12ga
3)Intermediate cal. semiauto (Paratrooper SKS for me)
4)9mm to .45 handgun
5)Scoped 30-06

And then since we can only choose five guns, I'd get one of these..... http://www.swordsofhonor.com/ip-069-2.html

dom1104
July 17, 2009, 11:29 PM
well, my personal "Arsenal" is


22lr 10/22 modded out for fun
22lr kadet kit for my p01
9mm p01
12 guage winchester
44 Mag Marlin lever gun

toivo
July 18, 2009, 12:18 AM
--an accurate .22 rimfire rifle, probably bolt-action
--a 12-gauge pump shotgun with a few different barrels
--an accurate bolt-action centerfire rifle in a common caliber, like .308, 30.06, etc.
--an intermediate-caliber semi-auto centerfire rifle, like an AK, AR, Mini-14, etc.
--a 9mm semi-auto pistol
--a .357 revolver

The main considerations here are (a) covering a wide variety of situations, (b) reliability of the firearm, and (c) availability of ammo.

BENELLIMONTE
July 18, 2009, 02:32 AM
#1 small game: Kimber K22 bolt action in .22LR

#2 all round medium & big game: Ruger M77 in 338 Win Mag.

#3 all game birds: Beretta 686 Onyx 12ga 3 1/2"

#4 self defense pistol: Heckler & Koch USP Compact 40mm w Tritium Sights.

#5 CQB Rifle 5.56 M4

maniak
July 18, 2009, 03:16 AM
purpose: interface (preferred implementation)
long-range: .204 bolt-action rifle (Savage Weather Warrior)
medium-range: .308 semi-auto carbine (PTR-91)
close-range: 12-gauge shotgun (Remington 870 w/synthetic stock & short & long barrels)
open carry on the hip: .45 semi-auto pistol (H&K USPc)
concealed carry/back-up: .357/38 revolver (Ruger SP101)

That'd give me very good reach with great accuracy, very good power against mid-range targets, very good coverage against close targets, very reliable protection on the hip and a solid back-up.

Could go with a heavier caliber for the bolt-action long-range rifle (.308 CZ 550 FS) and a lighter round for the semi-auto mid-range carbine (.223 AR-15). But I think I can put the lighter, faster round to better use out near the limits of my reach, where I'm more likely to be able to pick my shot.

And could switch out the pistols: revolver for open (Ruger Blackhawk .357(.38)/9mm Convertible) and semi-auto for concealed (9mm Walther PPS) carry. That would give me two handguns that could both use the same ammo, if only 9mm was available. But it would also force me into a single-action primary side-arm.

Btw, I enjoy these "If you were limited to N" threads because they force me to think about what do with this gun versus that gun and what could I do with that gun versus this one. I'm not worried about anyone imposing a limit on how many guns I own. I discourage that in much the same way that I discourage limits on speech and religious choice: I own as many guns as I choose (within the unimposed constraints of my budget); I worship as I choose; and I speak freely.

Rights well exercised are rights well protected. We're not victims just because people disagree with us.

The more likely real-life scenario that would limit our choices in weapons would be a disaster (natural or otherwise) that forces an evacuation. I may own all kinds of weapons, but if I have to leave in a hurry, I'll only be able to carry N of them in my truck, N-2 in my car, N-3 on my horse, or my bike, or my back.

I'm not the sort to keep a bug-out bag good-to-go with pre-selected weapons, food and toilet paper in my garage; but at least these threads get me thinking: What works best for what?

Plus they're fun.

That's one of the reasons I like to own, feed, shoot, clean, and talk guns. It's fun.

I mean no offense.

preWWWIIbuff
July 18, 2009, 03:35 AM
In the hard shell golf travel bag as I type.



1. Sig Sauer trailside .22 five mags. check

2. Savage .22 heavy bbl with accu-trigger 5 10round mags. check

3. Twelve gage short and long bbl 3 chokes check

4. Swiss K-31 with loaded strippers scope mount and LeupoldŽ check

5. Sig P229 .40s&w hand load hot. 357sig loaded hot five 12 round mags check


Cleaning set

BTW one CZ Vz-58 7 mags fits in there nice.

One deep cover BPV with trauma plates

Around 568 rounds

Small of back Astra a100 9mm 5 mags 17 round never fails.

NAA .22 magnum pistol. you know were?



1. Dan Wesson 38/357 2 6 12

2. Marlin 1894c 38/357

3.
I could make a few kits EACH just fine.



“Who sows virtue reaps honor.”

fireflyfather
July 18, 2009, 04:45 AM
1. Mossberg 500 Marine finish, with cantilevered slug, cylinder, and screw-in choke barrels
2. AR-15 with at least the following uppers: .22 conversion & x1 red dot, .223 flat top 14" & 1x red dot or eotech, .223 flat top 16" & Acog, 6.8spc flat top 20" & high power scope, 7.62x39 flat top & red dot with BUIS
3. Medium frame .357 with 4" barrel. Astra, S&W, or Colt. Adjustable sights, orange nail polish
4. S&W 642 or 340 m&p with crimson trace and a bottle of orange nail polish as a backup
5. Modified Mosin Nagant 91/30, M38, or Enfield .303 (quality synthetic stock, Mojo Microclick sights or Scope mount with quality optics, polished chamber) Useful both for high power loads for big game/predators and gallery loads for small game hunting. Rimmed cartridge is key for re-using brass many times over.

Emphasis on #1-2 is swappable barrels for multiple uses/using whatever ammo is handy. #3-5 is reloading ammo for different purposes (revolvers to avoid hunting for spent brass and flexibility in loads, rimmed full power rifle case for above mentioned reasons)

Of course, this assumes I don't have to carry all that crap around. If I had to pare that down to minimum, cylinder choke barrel only for shotgun, .223 16" Acog only for AR

BikerRN
July 18, 2009, 06:41 AM
Returning home from a local gun show, my uncle and I had a discussion on what (5) firearms would be a minimum quality arsenal for someone just getting into guns (hunting, home defense, protection and/or practice). Open for any and all suggestions.

1) Sharps 45-70
2) 12 Guage Pump
3) Ruger 10/22
4) M4
5) 4" .357 Magnum Revolver or 5" 1911

BikerRN

DPMSAR
July 18, 2009, 06:02 PM
1. 1911
2. AR-15 in 6.8 SPC
3. 300 win mag
4. 870 rem
5. 500 S&W

pharmer
July 19, 2009, 11:26 AM
HK 91, .308 bolt rifle, 12 ga, Ruger MKII, 9mm. Joe

robphillips
July 19, 2009, 11:56 PM
Colt SAA in 357
Win model 94 in 357
Benelli Nova 12 ga
Win 94 in 30 30
Ruger m77 in 30-06

I would have to have 6 because I would want a 1911 also.

30mag
July 20, 2009, 12:02 AM
You would definitely want a rifle in .22 and a pump-action 12 gauge, I would think a bolt action .30-06 or .308 and a combat style rifle in a medium caliber (7.62 x 39 or something of relative power. I wouldn't want a 5.56 or .223, but most people seem perfectly happy with them). And a handgun of some caliber, perhaps a .357 revolver? I would think a .357 would be the most flexible handgun.

RockyTop
July 20, 2009, 12:32 AM
Returning home from a local gun show, my uncle and I had a discussion on what (5) firearms would be a minimum quality arsenal for someone just getting into guns (hunting, home defense, protection and/or practice). Open for any and all suggestions.

I was basically in that same situation. Over the last 5 months I have now bought:

Ruger P95 (9mm - range/truck gun)
Kel Tec p3at (.380 ccw)
Mossberg 500 12 gauge (28" & 18/5" barrels)
Mosin Nagant 7.62x54r rifle

The only thing missing imo, and next on my list, is a .22lr - basically for cheap plinking/practice.

I don't do much hunting so my rifle was basically just something I happened upon because it was in great condition and only about $100 and is tons of fun. If you're looking for a more mainstream hunting rifle you'll probably want something in .308 or 30-06.

Also if you don't want/need a pocket gun, you could get a concealable carry gun that is a little bigger that could also serve as range gun. There are quite a few compact pistols under $500 in 9mm, .40 and .45 that are small enough to carry in a IWB holster, yet big enough to use at a range for extended periods.

I know there are a lot higher end, much more expensive guns out there. But I think my choices, while economical, are still reliable and of good solid quality. In the future, I may sell one or two and upgrade to something else, but right now I'm satisfied with what I have and am enjoying putting them through a workout.

Avenger29
July 20, 2009, 12:36 AM
AR-15 in 5.56mm w/ .22LR conversion kit

FNAR .308

Remington 870P

Ruger GP-100 Stainless, 4"

Ruger 22/45

I could be very content with those 5 guns. Very, very content. I'm also not a hunter, but the FNAR would work well for that, if a bit of an unusual choice.

Ohio Gun Guy
July 20, 2009, 12:39 AM
I'll jump in.

1. 9mm or .45 pistol
2. Bolt action with scope
3. AR / AK - Semi Auto Rifle
4. 12 ga, Shotgun
5. .22 lr rifle (10/22)

HeavenlySword
July 20, 2009, 01:08 AM
12ga pump/semi
.30-06/.308/7.62x54mmR/other 'battle rifle' caliber in semi
Battle rifle caliber in bolt
.22LR rifle/Carbine semiauto + silencer if available
.22LR pistol, integrally silenced if possible

of course, if you could have 10 guns instead...

Claude Clay
July 20, 2009, 01:24 AM
discreet carry--S&W 642
CC or OC 5" 1911 w/ 22lr bullseye accurate conversion
light rifle to 300 yards--H-Bar 223 w/ 22 1moa conversion
medium rifle to 1000 yards--308 rem 700

the 5th--perhaps a 4" NAA 22/22mag boot gun

if i can bring a friend i would like to invite chuck norris:scrutiny:

ScareyH22A
July 20, 2009, 02:22 AM
M4a1
usp 45
m110
870
10/22

LRaccuracy
July 20, 2009, 10:48 PM
Okay... I will give it a shot...

10/22
AR-15 .223
AR-10 .308
1911 w/22 conversion (45 ACP & .22 LR)
S&W Model 629 (44 mag and 44 Special)
S&W Model 66 or similar (.38 special and .357 mag)

We all know people that own guns can't count. I'm always one gun short of being happy.

rs999
July 21, 2009, 12:21 AM
870 Marine Magnum
Mossberg 930 HD/HS - non-tacticool
Glock 26 or maybe a 19
Some kind of 38 or 357 - SP101 or a S&W 686?

sonier
July 21, 2009, 07:07 PM
too start with id say never any semi autos. the upkeep and the rate of failure is just naturally more than a bolt action. so start with something thats easy to upkeep and will alst longer between cleanings :)

so 2 30/06 rifles/ marlin 444/ 223 bolt action/ 357 maximum revolver.

geolemer
July 21, 2009, 07:21 PM
G3
AR-15
Ak-47
Plr-22
97 Winchester

kyo
July 21, 2009, 07:32 PM
My Ruger P345- my personal carry/sd/hd weapon. I know it so I will pick it because I am familiar with it.
My Mossberg 12 gauge 7+1 shot gun. Decent capacity and I already have it. Staple for self defense and whatever else I want. Use it to hunt, and other various things.
A full auto Kalashnikov(its the russian in me) because it will ALWAYS fire. And its not too hard to convert them(every russian knows how)
A Ruger Charger(for hunting small stuff)
and an AR-50 for the 50 cal BMG's. This covers everything I think I would need. Long range, short range, whatever in between. The versatility of the many different types of 50 cal ammo is what is great.

Erik M
July 21, 2009, 09:04 PM
Heres a sample of my arsenal.

Mossberg 500 persuader - home defense, multi purpose gun

Taurus 82 .38spl - CCW gun, range toy

Remington Wingmaster 870 - rabbit/small game gun

Taurus PT140 .40s&w - CCW gun

Winchester model 94 30/30 - deer gun

w_houle
July 21, 2009, 09:37 PM
Oooh... I wanna play
Browning A Bolt .25-06
Remington 1100
Ithaca 37
1911 Colt Series 70
Ruger Rimfire

frogomatic
July 21, 2009, 11:21 PM
a good pump 12ga
a centerfire bolt action or lever gun in a common caliber
an AR, AK, M1A, or FAL type rifle
a good bolt or semiauto in 22lr
a quality pistol of the users preference

just my opinion

Skillet
July 22, 2009, 12:19 PM
a savage 14 american classic left hand with a black accustock and accutrigger, with a leupold mark 4 lr/t riflescope. caliber .308
a hk 416, caliber .223, with a leupold prismatic 1x14 tact. illum. recticle
a CZ 75B, caliber 9mm with a green dot laser grip
a remington model 870 TAC desert recon, 12 guage, with night sights
a mk 19 grenade launcher belt fed automatic 40 mm grenade launcher, with night vision camera

-that, would be if i had to fight in a civil war.

this, is what i would choose for ordinary use

a savage 14 american classic left hand with wood accustock and accutrigger caliber .308
a CZ 75B, caliber 9mm
a remington model 1100 shotgun, in either 12 or 20 guage
a taurus judge revolver, caliber 45 long colt or 410 guage
a piston operated semi auto .22 lr cal in an hk 416 format

Matrix187
July 22, 2009, 12:34 PM
CZ 550 American .30-06
CZ VZ-58 7.62x39 Rifle
CZ P-01 9mm
CZ 452 .22 LR
Older Remington 870 that doesn't suck like the new ones

dom1104
July 22, 2009, 03:21 PM
geez Matrix, I like CZs, but dang man.

You LOVE em.

I will say the p01 is my favorite 9mm, and the 453 is such a great 22lr, maybe you arent so far off :)

I dunno about the vz-58 tho.

Never did like that one.

chuckusaret
July 22, 2009, 04:02 PM
What would be a great (limit 5)
IMO a civilian would have a collection of weapons, the military would have an arsenal/armaments: a stockpile of weapons and military equipment.

IMO a good collection would be: (1) 12 ga shotgun for hunting and HD (2) .243 vermit rifle (3) .40 cal semi auto sub compact (SD) (4) .380 cal semi auto (SD backup) (5) .22 cal pistol or rifle for target practice
I try not to use that word, arsenal, around my wife, I catch hell for my small "collection"

texas bulldog
July 22, 2009, 04:44 PM
Remington 870 Wingmaster with 18" and 26" barrels
Marlin 336 w/scope
Marlin 39
S&W 686+ 4" pre-lock
Colt series 70 1911

Erik M
July 22, 2009, 05:17 PM
Ruger Single 6 - plinker

Soeger coach gun 12ga - home defense

Taurus Tracker .44 6" barrel - anti-personel

NEF .410 break barrell - small game gun

Colt SAA .45 - heirloom/toy

Sheepdog1968
July 22, 2009, 06:28 PM
I love these posts. Makes me think about what I can and can't live without and it's very subjective to each individual. FWIW, I went 15+ years with only four firearms and was content and happy. I now have more but I'm not sure it makes me that much happier.

1. Home Defense.
I (again all of this is my personal opinion and it's no better than anyone else's opinion) think a shotgun is the best home defense weapon. I'd be tore between a Mossberg 590A1 (pump with rear ghost ring sight) and Mossberg 930 SPX (semiauto w ghost ring sight). I'd probably pick the 590A1 as I think it would be just a bit more reliable. In terms of Mossberg vs. Remmington - to me it's a Ford vs. Chevykind of thing. I think both brands are great.

2. Back up Home Defense, potential CCW.
It would be a handgun in 45 ACP and the choice for me would be between a Sig 220 or the Springfiled XD 5" tactical. Since I currently don't have a CCW, I'd go with a Sig 220. I wanted one for about 20 years and just love the way it shoots. In CA, capacity is limited to 10 rnds so capacity is a moot point. If I had a CCW I would go with the Springfield XD 45 ACP in either the 4" or 5" model given it weights less than the Sig. I'd also get a 22 LR conversion kit for the Sig. If they have one for the XD I'd do that as well. Some could call this cheating but I don't see it that way since it's the same lower receier.

3. Serious firepower to cover just about any scenario.
I'd go with an M1A from LRB Arms or Springfield. I am aligned with Jeff Cooper when it comes to the superiority of a 30 cal round. A close second choice would be an M1 Garand.

4. Something fun & inexpensive to shoot
My top two choices would be either a Ruger 10-22 or Mk II/III. I'd go with the 10/22. I like 22's and they don't cost much to shoot. Also, you can buy sights to mimic miliary sights and practice basic marksman ship for real cheap. Also good for hunting small game.

5. Something fun with a practical side.
My top two contendors would be either a Rem 700 in .308 or a Marlin 336 in 30-30. To be perfectly honest I would miss either of these. If push came to shove, I think I'd lean towards my Rem 700. It's got sub MOA, can easily touch out to 600 yards, and I can hunt just about anything on the lower 48 states with it.

I find it interesting that with the exception of the Marlin 336, I wouldn't miss the other stuff I have. Having said that, I'm not going to sell them.

To sum it up.
1. Mossberg 590A1 12 ga pump shotgun
2. Sig P220 45 ACP (w 22 LR conversion kit when I want to plink)
3. Springfield or LRB Arms M1A in 7.62x51 (.308 Win)
4. Ruger 10/22 rifle 22LR
5. Rem 700 in .308 Win

Evnldr
July 22, 2009, 06:35 PM
1) A 12 GA (stopping power)
2) 22 Rifle (light weight ammo)
3) 22 Hand gun (light weight ammo)
4) Semi Auto (hand gun with interchangeable barrels EX: 22, 40, 45) ease of ammo availability
5) 357/38 wheel gun Reliability

MTMilitiaman
July 22, 2009, 08:46 PM
A good five gun starter arsenal? Lets say a .22 rifle for small game and practice--make mine a Ruger 10/22 or a Savage bolt. Then we need a semi-automatic for general defense/SHTF/civil unrest/zombie apocalypse use. Make mine an M1A Scout. A FAL, AK, or AR would also work, among others. Then I would get a good full size handgun--revolver or auto, whatever you prefer--for bed stand use. I'll take either my SIG P220 .45 or my Glock 20 10mm Auto for this role. A compact handgun, again, revolver or auto, it doesn't matter, for CCW, would also come in handy. If SIG made a P228 or 229 in SAO 9mm, it would be an obvious choice for me. As they do not, I have to say I am considering a G30SF or a G19. That makes four. The last can go to a 12 gauge pump action, preferably with an 18 to 20 inch IC barrel so as to be suitable for home defense. I prefer the Rem M870. Or you can get a designated hunting rifle. Any quality bolt gun chambered for any popular cartridge suitable for the game being hunted should work fine. I've traditionally hunted with Rem M700s but have become intrigued by CRF actions, so make mine a Pre-64 Win M70 clone.

So that leaves me with:
1. Ruger 10/22 .22LR
2. Springfield Armory M1A Scout 7.62x51/.308 Win
3. Glock 20 10mm Auto
4. Glock 30 .45 ACP
5. Montana Rifleman Co. M1999, LH stainless short action, 7mm WSM with a 24 inch #4 or 5 contour tube, in a High-Tech Specialties or McMillan stock should suffice, as the market is nearly devoid of commercial CRF bolt actions for southpaws.

travellingJeff
July 28, 2009, 03:57 AM
Sounds fun;

Top quality semi-auto pistol, I'd say a SIG in .357SIG

Great quality, multi purpose bolt rifle, say a Rem700 in .308 or thirty-ought.

A M1 Garand (No collection is complete without one)

A .22LR rifle for hunting, bolt or semi depending on local laws (or how much you care about them :-)

Finally, a good quality MODERN battle rifle. Call it a FN/FAL or a AR-10. If you ALREADY had a Garand, and the bolt gun, I suppose a .223/5.56 AR would fit in. Of course, you've already got a .22 :-)



You'll note, no shotgun. I personally have little to no use for them, I can't see them doing something that a well-aimed rifle can't do. I also don't like bruising up my shoulder on range day.

I think we'd all agree that some quality, semi-auto pistol is a requirement, same with the .22LR rifle.

As for the bolt action thirty ought or .308... you can load it for everything from rabbits (stretching it, for sure) to moose. you could do an African hunt with a thirty-ought if you weren't interested in elephants or buffalo.

The Garand... I suppose if you wanted to get "just" a FN/FAL or similar battle rifle, you could leave the Garand off the list. What would you replace it with, though? I guess if you had the battle rifle category covered, you could fit an AR in here somewhere. I like the simplicity of the Garand, combined with it's awesome, devastating power.

As for the battle rifle.... Nothing can take it's place. It's your own "Liberty Tooth".

YMMV, of course.

agoodpeter
July 28, 2009, 05:25 AM
from my own arsenal:
sig 1911 45 acp
remington 870
tikka T3 tactical 308 with silencer
walther p99 in 9mm with silencer
styer aug 223,, with 9mm conversion kit, with beta c mags
can hunt, kill, and defend who i need to with this group,, all bases are covered, each gun fill a certian need to get a job done,, plus i can take out any a hole that says that i can have only five guns

Rat Robb
July 28, 2009, 11:15 AM
Remington 700 in .308
Remington 870 in 12 gauge
S&W J-Frame snub nose in .38 Special
S&W 686 in .357 with a 6" barrel
Glock 17

I only say those cause that's what's in my safe at home, lol.

-Robb

kamagong
July 28, 2009, 12:20 PM
This is what I would get if limited to five -

AR M4gery
Springfield M1A
Remington 870 Wingmaster
Springfield Custom Carry
CZ 452

That's a carbine, a MBR, shotgun, pistol, and .22 rifle. Should cover all the bases.

Ala Dan
July 28, 2009, 12:28 PM
Remington 12 gague 870 Marine Magnum
16" Colt Match Target Competition 5.56 AR-15
West German SIG-SAUER P228 9m/m
Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special .45 ACP
6" Smith & Wesson model 19, 66, or 686

I don't hunt, so these serve me well~! ;) :D

tcsnake
July 28, 2009, 01:01 PM
scout rifle in .308
1911 .45ACP
870 police tactical
M4 Carbine chambered in 6.8SPC
Glock 17

vic40204
July 28, 2009, 02:02 PM
A hunting shotgun, a big game caliber hunting rifle, a rimfire rifle, a semi-automatic pistol, and a revolver.


These would be my picks too.

earlthegoat2
July 28, 2009, 02:16 PM
more than 5

3pairs12
July 28, 2009, 02:28 PM
A hunting shotgun, a big game caliber hunting rifle, a rimfire rifle, a semi-automatic pistol, and a revolver.

I would not call that a 'great' arsenal. Not at all.
If I had four or five of each, then we're talking "great arsenal".
__________________


I agree

rm_fagan
July 28, 2009, 02:38 PM
Rem 870 Tac 18" with extra 22" bbl
Vector Polish AK-47 Underfolder, UltiMak Scout Rail w/ Aimpoint CompML3
FN SPR A5 w/ Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x56
Marlin 981T .22 w/ Weaver K4
Glock 30SF

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
July 28, 2009, 03:36 PM
For someone just getting in to guns, being the parameters here.

Number One: A Shotgun. A shotgun is the most versatile gun on the planet. With birdshot, it's a bird and small game gun. With buckshot, it's a home defense gun and medium game gun. With foster slugs, it's a large game gun. The gauge should be either 20 or 12, but possibly even 16 gauge. Preferably 12 ga, but 20 will work just as well. The action should be pump or semi-auto, but pump is preferred for maximum reliability. One or two barrels is fine. Two barrels is prefferred (one 26"-28" for hunting, and one 18.5"-22" for defense). If just one barrel, it should be 22" or 24" or possibly 26". Can be chambered for 2.75 only, or 3.0 & 2.75 both. Either one is fine, though 3.0" is preferred, for geese & turkeys. This gun should NOT be chambered for 3.5" shells, IF it's a semi-auto, because reliability becomes compromised with 2.75s. If it's a pump, then a 3.5" chamber is fine.


Number Two: A .22 Rimfire Rifle. This is a close second in versatility to the shotgun. Small game, varmints, fun plinking, target shooting. The action can be any, but strongly prefer a turnbolt, lever, or pump gun (not semi-auto), and a model that can feed shorts, longs, and long rifle ammo. I prefer a turnbolt if I'm limited to one .22 rifle, because they will feed anything and are easy to clean. CZ 452 is an excellent example for this category.


Number Three: A Multi-Purpose/Defensive Handgun.. This gun can serve for concealed/open carry, home defense, vehicle carry, woods carry, or even close-range hunting in a pinch. Can be a revolver or semi-auto; doesn't matter, as long as it's a good design of high quality manufacture. How large depends upon whether you may carry it or not. Barrel length should be no less than 1.5" (revolver) or 2.5" (semi), and no more than 5" (revolver) or 6" (semi). Chambering should be in whatever you can shoot well and floats your boat, but I would prefer .380 auto (9x17), 9x19 luger/para, .38 super, 9x23, 10mm, .45 acp., .44 spec./.44 mag, .38 spec./.357mag, or .45 colt. In particular, I would favor 9x19, .45 acp, .44 special, and .45 colt.


Number Four: A "Full-powered" centerfire rifle. Chambered preferably for a "bottle-necked" cartridge from .243 Winchester to .30-'06 springfield, but a straight-walled round such a .444 Marlin or .45-70 will work too. This is your long range, unusual social problems, and hunting gun. The action can be any (turnbolt, lever, pump, or semi), but turnbolt is preferred pretty highly above all others. However, a lever, pump, or semi will serve well, too. Semi is least desirable because of weight, if you hunt. Preferred chamberings for me, are those with lower recoil, in the 6mm, .25 cal, 6.5mm, and 7mm families.


Number Five: Either/Or The 5th one is tough, and the answer I think depends upon whether or not you're going to be hunting. If hunting is included, then No. 5 should be a muzzleloader in .45, .50, or .54 caliber, preferably in .50 cal. Preferably this ML will be a Savage 10ML, to maximize versatility, if legal in your state to use for hunting, or if smokeless powder ML hunting is not legal in your state, then a true smokepole, either inline or traditional. The frontstuffer is also advocated by some as a good apocolypse gun - if regular ammo and/or components become unavailable, then you could make your own lead round balls, and make your own gunpowder.

If, on the other hand, hunting is not on the list of to-do activities, then I think 5th place is time for a lightweight, intermediate-cartridge, fighting rifle or EBR or HDR or whatever you want to call it - typically an AR15 type or AK47 type, but not necessarily. This is a combination of both a target & self-defense rifle. Highly preferred specific choice here for me would be an AR15 or similar with a 20" HB, in 5.56x45mm / .223 rem - again, great for both shooting targets, introducing noobs, and also self-defense if the S were to hit the F.

I think if you're going to expand to 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10, then it's time to start adding things like (a) extra centerfire handgun (backup, or one for carry, one for home defense, etc.), (b) dedicated "tactical" shotgun, (c) NICE shotgun (O/U or SxS) to impress the boys at the trap club and while social upland hunting, (d) additional turnbolt or double rifle for hunting, particularly one in a DG caliber - over .35 cal, and (e) small-caliber dedicated precision/ varminter rifle, in calibers such as .17 HMR, .20s or Calhoon calibers, .221, .222, .223, .17 centerfires, PPC rounds, .204, .22-250, .220 swift, or even .243 or 6mm rem.

If you go to 11-15, then it's wide open and would include more hunting rifles, more handguns, a big ol' long-barreled revolver, more long-range precision guns, including a .50 BMG, .408 CT, or .416 Barrett, cowboy guns, .22 handgun, more rimfire rifles in both .22 and magnum rimfires, etc.

federalfarmer
July 29, 2009, 12:14 PM
1. 1911 .45 (5 inch)
2. Pump 12 g Shotgun
3. .243 bolt gun scoped
4. 300 win. long barrel and long range scope (14 pounds?)
5. 1911 .45

hawk45
July 29, 2009, 04:43 PM
1) Remington 870 shotgun
2) Quality AR-15
3) Remington or Savage Bolt action (300 family... .308, 30-06, 300WM)
4) Ruger 10/22
5a) Glock 17 or 19
5b) DA Smith & Wesson (caliber of flavor)
5c) Ruger Single Action Blackhawk or Vaquaro (caliber of flavor)

Silvanus
July 29, 2009, 05:29 PM
1) Glock 19
2) 14.5" AR-15 (5.56)
3) Remington 870 (12gauge)
4) don't have much experience with bolt-actions, but a quality rifle in .300 or .338 win. mag. should do the trick
5) 4" S&W 686

Johny
July 29, 2009, 05:49 PM
-assault rifle(ar/ak)
-12ga
-22lr -scoped-
-nice hunting rifle 30/30 / 308cal -scoped-
-pistol

HoosierQ
July 29, 2009, 06:03 PM
I am going with simple, inexpensive, new guns here.



Glock 17 or 19, 9mm semi-auto pistol...nice and handy.
.357 Ruger GP100 4" barrel revolver...nice and big.
.38 S&W 642 snubbie revolver...nice and light.
Mossberg 500 or 590 12 ga. pump...nice and scary.
DPMS Sportical Carbine, 5.56 semo-auto rifle...nice and affordable (although you have to buy sights or optics of some kind for it).


Honorable mention - Marlin 60 .22lr (or you could swap out either the Glock or the Ruger for it).

Every niche a man might need in what you call an "arsenal". Obviously if you hunt, you'll need other guns that I would not call an arsenal.

skoro
July 29, 2009, 10:30 PM
I wouldn't want to be limited to five, but I think you could be well equipped with that number.

Long Guns:

12ga shotgun
30-06 rifle
22LR rifle

Handguns:

large "full power" revolver or auto
compact, concealable revolver or auto

With this collection, an individual would have on hand everything needed for large and small game, gamebirds, pest control, and defense.

JKimball
July 30, 2009, 04:15 AM
for someone just getting into guns (hunting, home defense, protection and/or practice)


12 gauge Pump
.308 Bolt action
Ruger 10/22
Ruger 22/45
CZ P-01 9mm

That will get someone into guns. The next on the list would be a 5.56 semi-auto carbine.

HardShell
July 30, 2009, 03:14 PM
I think the term "battery" of weapons would have fit the bill much better, and likely prevented a lot of the flack that the OP caught. ;)


For my purposes/uses:

1. Primary CCW of choice
2. BUG of choice
3. Defensive rifle of choice
4. Hunting rifle of choice
5. Shotgun of choice


Although I cringe at the thought of being reduced down to just five... :eek:

rich e
August 2, 2009, 01:17 AM
#1----30.06 scoped bolt action rifle-----Any animal 2 or 4 legs in N.America out to 350-400 yards..

#2 Mossberg/Remington 12 gauge shotgun----All small game including turkey..18 inch barrel for home defence..

#3 AK-47 / AR-15 / FAL---Everyone needs a battle rifle..

#4 Glock/Sig/H&K 9 mil-----Everyone needs a good hi-cap 9 mil combat pistol.

#5 A 357mag ...A handgun to take hunting that is legal and capable of taking deer and small game if need be...A 6 inch 357 I think is perfect..Practicing double action with this will improve your accuracy with the GLOCK big time..

I'd also like to add a pair of 22s...A bolt action scoped Marlin and a Ruger MK 2 or a S&W revolver...

Rich

amprecon
August 2, 2009, 01:39 AM
1. Scoped M1A
2. Milled AK-47
3. Pump 12-gauge Shotgun
4. Semi-Auto .22lr rifle
5. Handgun (any major defensive caliber)

Indianashooter
August 5, 2009, 01:30 PM
Although this is a somewhat rediculous topic for a thread I have to add my two cents.
For me a "great arsenal" would have to consist of a variety of guns that could be used for any circumstance necessary.

Mine would be:

Sig Sauer P220 .45
Glock 17 with 33 round mag and streamlight flashlight laser combo
Taurus PT 709 9mm (great for concealed carry)
Benelli Supernova 12 gauge (Absorbing stock, ghost ring sights, extended 7 shot mag)
Remington 700 .308 with Burris Scope)

P.S. what's up with all the references to .22s? I thought we were trying to kill things with our guns? : / lol

amprecon
August 5, 2009, 10:04 PM
Although this is a somewhat rediculous topic for a thread I have to add my two cents.
If you're going to ridicule someone's post, at least spell your words correctly.
I happen to enjoy ridiculous (<---- relative) threads, I find them entertaining.

DiTzMaN
August 5, 2009, 10:49 PM
Here is a twist:

1) 12 Gauge O/U with complete set of Briley sub-guage tubes and full compliment of chokes.

2) 1911 with a .22 conversion kit to go along with it.

3) AR-15 with .22 conversion kit to go along with it.

4) Contender with an assortment of bbls and a rifle stock.

5) ?

JKimball
August 6, 2009, 02:35 PM
P.S. what's up with all the references to .22s? I thought we were trying to kill things with our guns? : / lol
I think it comes from this in the OP:

for someone just getting into guns (hunting, home defense, protection and/or practice)

As for killing things, I'd say beware of the person who can kill a cottontail on the run with a .22.

Smokingboomstick
August 6, 2009, 03:04 PM
There's no such thing as a five gun great arsenal. I always though a great arsenal was about five hundred guns. :D

musicman
August 6, 2009, 03:35 PM
my first post : )

1- 12 Ga Shotgun,
2- 45 Cal Semi Automatic
3- Ar-15
4- Small Pocket Sized 9 MM Semi Auto
5- Mac 10 Full Auto 45 Cal


This would be the essentials for me...

higene
August 17, 2009, 07:25 PM
Top 5:

1. S&W M17 .22
2. S&W M24 .44 Special (Thunder Ranch)
3. CZ 452 American .22
4. Sedgley 03A3 - 30-06
5. CZ double 12 w choke tubes

Strange but true

Tell us what you love

Higene

:cool:

dieselkanic
August 17, 2009, 07:46 PM
Springfield XD40
Ruger 10-22
Remington 700 .270
Mossberg 500 12 ga.
Ruger Redhawk .41

ChCx2744
August 17, 2009, 08:13 PM
1) AR 15 variant rifle chambered in 5.56 (Bushmaster XM15 E2S :))
2) Pump action shotgun chambered in 12 gauge (Remington 870/Mossberg 590 :))
3) Medium frame semi-auto pistol (Glock 17/19/20 :))
4) Small frame semi-auto BUG (Glock 26/29 :))
5) Hunting rifle/Scoped long"er" range rifle chambered in .30-06 (Savage, Remington, Winchester, etc. :))

RP88
August 17, 2009, 08:20 PM
an AR-15, an AK-47, a .22 rifle, a 9mm pistol, and a big-caliber bolt-action with a good scope on it.

Pretty much covers need and want for any situation that a gun would be called for in. If I could have one final choice I'd go with a Mossberg shotgun as well.

doc2rn
August 17, 2009, 08:52 PM
I would get a Vulcan Cannon (usually comes with an A-10 attached)
A 120mm smoothbore (with its M1A2 Abrahms)
Ma Deuce (in its quad design on the half trac)
A Ruger 77/22 MkII in .22lr
A Sig 232 in .380
A fella can dream can't he!

smallbore
August 17, 2009, 09:00 PM
I have owned the same 6 'basic needs' firearms for a few years now. . .semi-auto 12ga; .22 bolt rifle scoped; .22 pistol scoped; .357 revolver; 9mm pistol hi-cap; Russian SKS. I recently added (w/in last 5 yrs) 30/30 lever action and a .32 pocket pistol. My selection was based on my needs/usefulness.

THE DARK KNIGHT
August 17, 2009, 09:29 PM
1. AK Variant in 7.62x39
2. Mossberg 590 12gauge
3. Ruger 10/22
4. Mil-Spec 1911
5. S&W .357 Magnum 4" bbl like a 686

ChCx2744
August 17, 2009, 10:25 PM
^ You forgot to mention an AH-64 Apache Longbow :)

Dr_2_B
August 17, 2009, 10:33 PM
yeah, I concur

THE DARK KNIGHT
August 17, 2009, 10:46 PM
Nah, I'd just knock the 10/22 off the list and take an RPG-7 instead, that way you can knock down the other guy's helicopter.

SpeedAKL
August 18, 2009, 12:45 PM
Keeping in mind the part about a person just getting into guns:

-A bolt-action .22LR, which is the best tool IMO for a beginner to learn rifle shooting basics
-A .22LR handgun such as a Walther P22 or SIG-Sauer Mosquito, again for learning the basics
-An AR-15, gets a foot in the centerfire door while maintaining minimal recoil, plus its useful for a variety of tasks...and you can "cheat" on the 5-gun limit with new uppers and caliber conversions
-A pump-action or semi-auto 12 gauge, perhaps no gun is more versatile and recoil is manageable for newer shooters with lighter 2.75-in loads
-A 9mm handgun for defensive useage, practice, fun, etc

achildofthesky
August 18, 2009, 01:26 PM
.22 rifle
30-06 (Bolt action or a Garand maybe)
semi auto pistol 9mm to 45 ACP
Shotgun (870??)
Lever action rifle (Marlin 336/1894/1895)

stchman
August 18, 2009, 01:28 PM
One of every firearm made.

That would be an awesome arsenal.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
August 18, 2009, 01:43 PM
Indianashooter, welcome to the forum:

Although this is a somewhat rediculous topic for a thread I have to add my two cents.

Oh brother. If it's ridiculous, then why would you even participate? You must not think that it's too ridiculous. :rolleyes:


P.S. what's up with all the references to .22s? I thought we were trying to kill things with our guns? : / lol

Yes, because hundreds upon hundreds of millions of critters haven't fallen to the .22 lr cartridge.... have they?

And I must reiterate that a .22 handgun won't even think about breaking into the top 5 in importance in 98% of people's needs, IMO. That's way to few guns with way too many 'needed' types that belong in the top 5 or so. A rimfire handgun *might* make the top 15. To take one example that is representative of many in this thread where a .22 handgun supplants a much more important item (IMO), take SpeedAKL's list, which does not even include a centerfire rifle with more power than a .223.

sledhead76
August 19, 2009, 03:46 AM
I'm surprised by how many people list a revolver AND a semiauto pistol. For me, I'd rather have more selection amongst rifles than handguns. It would be interesting to hear some feedback from the folks with the taste for multiple handguns on so short a list. Anyway, for my picks....
1. Defensive caliber handgun... anything from .38 on up, whatever floats your boat
2. Shotgun... semiauto or pump, 12 or even 20 ga. if you can handle it better
3. Battle rifle... Buy American, get the AR15 :)
4. Hunting rifle.... 30-06 is the popular choice, but I think a 270, 300, 7mm, etc could substitute
5. The swing spot.... nearly everyone throws in some kind of .22lr here, I can agree with that, or sub. for another of the most useful and time proven rifles out there, a 30-30 lever action. There was another thread that had something to do with the most useful rifle out there, and it seemed like the 30-30 Marlins and Winchesters were the unofficial winners, so it's surprising to me that they get so little attention here!

ThrottleJockey72
August 19, 2009, 03:51 AM
Barret .50 semi auto
.308/30-06
.45
.357
.22 rifle

bannockburn
August 19, 2009, 09:13 AM
For me, versatility and utility would be the key to my selection.

1) Colt M1911 Government .38 Super with complete assemblies to convert it to 9mm. and .22LR
2) S&W Model 686
3) Mossberg Model 500 12 ga. with different barrels
4) Colt AR-15 .223 with complete upper assemblies for different caliber conversions
5) Springfield Armory M1A .308

Gunfighter123
August 19, 2009, 01:02 PM
I'll play too ;

1 -- 12ga. Rem., Mossberg,Saiga -- pump or auto
2 --- .223 , 308 , or 7.62x39 - Hi-Cap semi auto -- .308 with optics would be my choice
3 --- 9mm/45acp/.40 -- Hi-Cap semi auto ---- 10mm if you reload
4 --- .22rf bolt or auto rifle with optics

Those four guns would fill 99.9% of anything needing done;

5 -- Optional -- a .22rf revolver or semi handgun
5 -- Optional --- a large bore revolver -- my choice, a S&W--610 or 625 or 629
5 -- Optional -- a black powder FLINTLOCK rifle !!!! Why ?? Push comes to shove -- no stores/buying needed -- flints can be found free in the ground , black powder could be homemade , and projectiles could be casted from soft/recycled metals

WalkerCountyBoy
August 27, 2009, 10:54 PM
Remington 870
GSG 5 .22lr
SKS
Mossberg .270 win
Taurus 24/7 9mm or Ruger SR 9

billmartin727
August 28, 2009, 01:45 PM
M1a
AR
.22 LR
.22 ruger target pistol
1911

mustang_steve
August 28, 2009, 03:50 PM
A bolt-action rifle, in a good all-around caliber. My fave is .308
A shotgun, something reliable and versatile...pump is fine.
A .22LR rifle
A semi-auto pistol of your choice
A T/C Contender....just because it's a fine range and hunting pistol. Not to mention you just need to buy new barrels to change calibers. In that manner it makes shooting a wide range of calibers for hunting or range rather affordable compared to buying a smorgasbord of guns.

Dogbite
August 28, 2009, 06:15 PM
1. 12 gauge pump shotgun.
2. Good quality AK-47.
3. 357 magnum revolver-Smith or Ruger.
4. 45ACP Glock 30.
5. Ruger 10/22.

Legionnaire
August 28, 2009, 08:04 PM
I'll play. Personal preference for hunting and sport shooting, so ...

1. 12 gauge pump - Mossberg 500, preferably with multiple barrels/chokes
2. Scoped bolt action hunting rifle - Rem 700 in .30-06 or Model 7 in .308
3. Scoped bolt action .22 - CZ 452 or Rem 541T
4. .357 mag revolver - 4-inch Ruger GP100

I believe those four would cover just about every basic need. Not sure what I'd pick for number five ... Maybe a Marlin 1894 in .357/38 to share ammo with the revolver ... or a Ruger Single Six in .22LR/.22WMR.

ChapNelson
August 28, 2009, 08:13 PM
1. S&W .357 revolver
2. Marlin 39a .22
3. Handi w/.30 cal barrel, 12 ga barrel
--- That would be minimum for me. But 2 more?
4. '92 .357 Rifle
5. 1911 .45 w/.22 slide

03Shadowbob
August 28, 2009, 08:15 PM
Here's mine which is what every American should own (IMO)
30/06 bolt action
12 ga bird gun
.45 semi auto pistol
22 semi auto rifle
S&W 357 revolver

HGUNHNTR
August 28, 2009, 08:22 PM
1. Any 12 Gauge pump, 26" Bbl.
2. Marlin Model 60 .22lr
3. 16" AR Variant .223
4. 30-06 any platform, nice 4-12 scope
5. HK USP 45 Tactical

Taurus92 in KyleTX
August 28, 2009, 08:32 PM
Feeling better about my gun purchases, after reading some of the responses...

I'd go (and have for the most part, went)...

- P229 in .40S&W w/9mm conversion barrel (check)
- 10/22 (check)
- Mossberg Mav 12ga w/18.5" HD and 28" dove hunting barrels (check)
- AR-15 or AK-47 (or both! check!)
- .308 bolt action (check - Marlin XS7)

In order to bend the rules, the above would be my five, the below would be my wife's and kids'...

- SKS
- Walther P22
- Ruger SP101
- Taurus PT-92
- 870 express in 20ga
- the AK or AR (whichever one I didn't claim)
- Millennium Pro in 9mm

Gamer1524
August 28, 2009, 10:51 PM
hunting - can't beat an 30-06 for all around game in the USA
home defense - Good ole 12 guage
protection - 40 cal of your choice
practice - .22lr..pretty cheap ammo
AR15 ....Can be used for any of the above

gbran
August 29, 2009, 12:10 AM
Single Six 22lr/22wmr
Colt Series 80
Glock G26
TC Encore rifle with several barrels to cover many calibers
870 pump in 12ga

GIMakarov
August 29, 2009, 12:36 AM
Im going to throw out the thing about this arsenal for a new shooter and make my list an arsenal for a experienced shooter. (Not professional), experienced is what I am. My wish list...

1. Springfield 1911 .45ACP
2. Ruger GP-100 .357Mag
3. Mossberg Tacticall 12Guage
4. AR-15 5.56
5. Remington700 .308

Now thats serious home defense. It'll be what I'll hole myself up with when the slaves of Obama knock on my door to seize my weapons, rights and freedom. Happy shootin.

Nick5182
August 30, 2009, 12:32 AM
1. AR-15, M4 variant 5.56
2. Remington 700P .308
3. Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 12ga
4. Kimber Custom TLE II 5" 1911
5. S&W .460 XVR (useful with either .460 mags, .454 Casull, or .45 Colt, you choose what flavor you like!)

Ed Ames
August 30, 2009, 01:10 AM
As someone who fired a .460S&W (loaded with full power loads, .454, and .45C) before buying a .454 revolver/lever gun pair I might be biased, but, I'd be hard pressed to justify a .460 in my top 5. I could see the .460 if also had a TC encore (with .460 barrel), though obviously when it came to spending money I went with the revolver+lever gun pair.

Anyway, I think this thread pretty conclusively shows that the minimum practical arsenal has > 5 guns.

content
August 30, 2009, 02:16 AM
Hello friends and neighbors/// RoHoo you read my mind.
#1) 870 wingmaster, pump 12.ga ,extended tube w/ 7 plus 1 shells(wide variety of loads available)

#2) 760 gamemaster, pump 30.06, 4 plus 1 or w/optional 10 round clip plus 1(wide variety of loads available, twin of 870 in action, cleaning...) Add scope of choice.

#3) S&W 586, 6", DA/SA Distinguished Combat Revolver 357/38, 6 shot (variety of loads and cartridges )

#4) Marlin 795 , semi-auto,18" barrel, 22.lr , 10 plus 1 (pouch on stock holds 4 spare 10 round clips and 1 film canister holding 70 rounds) Syn. stock model only weights 4.5 lbs. //Add scope of choice.

#5) Stoger Luger, semi-auto,4'' barrel, 22lr., 11 plus 1

I like the firearm versatility I have collected here./// Included pic of my Buck Master Lite Model 185 great carry/camp knife if you could only have 1.104408


If I could substitute a S&W 638 airweight body guard, 38+P for Stoger 22.lr pistol, I would. //Personally I chose weapons based on ammo versatility and supply in the U.S.A. // 30.06 , 38., 12ga., 22lr. seem to be most abundant here. Mainly because of nation wide popularity for decades. // As you see, I may be due for an upgrade on the old reliable weapons you see before you, but I'm content for now.


Interesting thread ..content

Troy308
August 30, 2009, 09:45 PM
1. Ruger 10/22 .22
2. Remington 870 12 gauge
3. Glock 17 9mm
4. M14 M1A 308
5. VZ-58 7.62 X 39

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