Dillon 1050 on steroids. Would you buy?


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JGAreddog
July 3, 2009, 07:10 PM
Hey everyone,

I have successfully made a automatic Dillon 1050. It uses a drive motor to pull the handle (with slim gear to protect your machine), Automatic bullet feeding, automatic primer feed (Meaning you poor in up to 600 primers into the feeder while the machine is running non-stop) and lastly I added a 6lb capacity powder reservoir. The machine runs at 1200 revs per hour put I am considering a 1500 rev per hour system. Everything is very beefy and heavy to keep the machine steady.

The main reason i started developing this machine is to bridge the gap between a 1050 and the $40,000.00 Camdex auto-loaders.

When running the machine there are 3 things to watch. Station 1 where the case in pushed into your shellplate, The primer arm to make sure it fully goes forward (so your primer pin doesn't hit the primer slide and possibly bend) and the powder check (this is a personal choice and many loaders do not do this).

If something should go wrong simply let off the foot pedal! The machine is turned on and off with a sewing machine like foot pedal and stops within 1/4 inch when you let off the pedal. It has forward and reverse as well. This machine when assembled weighs right around 150lbs.

The machine is pretty pricey but for the smaller commercial loader its perfect. The cost will be up to $7,000.00 Also keep in mind if you run sized/deprimed brass or new brass you can operate 2 machines at the same time. The reason for this is the amount of tension with new brass is so low the slim gear can be set wear absolutely nothing can be hurt is it gets jammed. Fired brass requires much more tension to size therefore pins and small parts may be broken if you do not watch carefully.

So folks my question to you all is would you buy a machine like this?

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RustyFN
July 3, 2009, 08:28 PM
Sounds good but I would have to say no. I like pulling the handle and don't need 1,200 rounds per hour.

Rusty

hydraulicman
July 4, 2009, 02:27 AM
My 550 is plenty fast for me. I would not want an auto 1050

I don't think i could ever justify it.

Sport45
July 4, 2009, 03:48 AM
I'll have to say no as well. I believe your market may be limited to small commercial loading outfits.

SciFiJim
July 4, 2009, 07:20 PM
I would have to agree with Sport45. Your market will be limited to clubs or small commercial reloading outfits. Loading 12 to 15 hundred rounds an hour is a lot for a single shooter. Developing a kit to retrofit their own press might be something the hard core hobbyist might go for.

gvnwst
July 4, 2009, 08:06 PM
For my personal use, no, i simply don't have the funds, or the amount of ammo that needs to be loaded. If i had more $ for which to purchuse ammo, and a few friends with similar funds, that would be on my list.

870
July 5, 2009, 11:22 AM
It sounds good but I'm getting 1800 rounds/hr using a standard 1050 and a KISS Bulletfeeder. I'm not a commercial reloader.

ants
July 5, 2009, 01:00 PM
For 7,000 dollars, no. If I wanted commercial capacity I would get a used commercial machine. They appear on Gunbroker once or twice per year at about 20k.

freakshow10mm
July 5, 2009, 04:22 PM
I load commercially and would never spend that kind of money to upgrade a Dillon 1050. I could spend less than $1,000 myself and retrofit the 1050 to do the same thing. With the proposed retrofit from you it would be $8500. That's a third of a Camdex machine that loads 4400rds per hour. I'll take the Camdex every time. If you're going automated, be serious about it. 1800 rounds per hour on a manual machine with a $500 feeder (testing the RCBS feeder now) is the same speed as your retrofit for a fraction of the cost.

The Camdex pistol machine is $29,000 and the rifle machine is $40,000. Used can be had for 50-75% of that.

JGAreddog
July 6, 2009, 09:11 AM
Hey guys thanks for the feedback. A couple things to clear up is, the price was including the 1050 not just upgrading it. A Camdex machine has a maximum cycle rate of 3600 RPH pistol, to properly load rifle its 2800 RPH (I have 4 of them) and lastly this is for the guy that doesn't want to pull the handle. This person may be lazy, injured or older with bad elbows and shoulders.

I'm also in the market for 9mm, 40s&w, 45acp, 380acp, 223 and 308 Camdex machines if anyone out there knows of used ones. I'll take the processors too.

Thanks Everyone!

freakshow10mm
July 6, 2009, 10:32 AM
Camdex machines run 4400 rounds per hour for the pistol machines. Camdex show up on eBay and Craigslist every once in a while. National Bullet Company sold all their machines for $4,000 each.

Still, retail of the 1050 is $1,500 or so putting the conversion at $5,500. I doubt anyone will pay that.

jmorris
July 6, 2009, 11:38 AM
I think the PW auto drive is around $800 you can build the same thing for less. Mine is slower than I can run with my arm but still cuts reloading time down as one can case gauge while loading instead of an extra step after loading.

jmorris
July 6, 2009, 11:39 AM
Oh, and you might have more takers with photos/videos posted.

roc1
July 6, 2009, 10:34 PM
I am sorry but Angus at CZ Custom sells a auto drive kit for the 1050 for $849.50 already. I have seen it operate in person at his shop seems to work great.I guess if you shoot 60,000 rounds a year and have to reload it would be worth it.Like he told me he hates to reload.I guess I would to if I had THAT much to load.I enjoy the hobby and like the hands on feel knowing everthing is working properly.I would just buy ammo if I wanted it all fully auto.
roc1

Greygoose
July 6, 2009, 10:48 PM
Will guys buy it? I think they will. Probably not a large seller, but I bet you would get some takers with the right marketing

jmorris
July 6, 2009, 11:30 PM
This is the one I copied.

http://www.reloaders.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=899

Lloyd Smale
July 7, 2009, 07:11 AM
If i could get it out the door including the press for under 4 grand maybe.

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