Dan Wesson 1911
Rebel Gunman HK
October 22, 2003, 11:43 AM
I handled a Dan Wesson 1911 at a store a while back and was really impressed with the way it felt. Even thought it felt slightly nicer than my Springfields. I always read about other 1911 manufactures; Colt, Spring. Kimber, Ed Brown, STI, Wilson, S&W, Les Baer. But I never hear anything about DW. Also noticed that the prices on the DW were comperable to the Springers at this shop I visited. So what Im wondering is.. does anyone own one? Shot one? I fully expect them to be as good as anything else out there... but Im curious anyway. I know their revolvers have good reputations.
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COK
October 22, 2003, 07:19 PM
Check out the 1911 forum , you will find tons of information there.
I bought a DW Pointman Major and have had no problems through about 1500 rds, very accurate gun.
Zak Smith
October 22, 2003, 08:52 PM
I bought in Dan Wesson Patriot Expert back in about March. I've used it for IPSC and 3Gun, and put about 10,000 rounds through it in that time.
It's a solid gun.
-z
DontShootMe
October 22, 2003, 09:32 PM
I'm 'sort of' in the middle of a trade - waiting to hear from a guy to ship his springfield to me, but if it all falls to peices, would you be interested in trading one of your stainless 1911's for a Dan Wesson Stainless Panther?
I bought the DW slightly used from Gunbroker.com, and sadly found out that Dan Wessons are ILLEGAL here in CA. Too late! I already paid for it. So it remains at my local gun shop. :-(
I'm gonna give the guy I'm dealing with a few more days to find a shop to ship his gun from, and if that incurs too much expense or if he doesn't come through, I'm all for a trade!!!
Let me know... (today is 10/22)
pictures:
http://www.gunbroker.com/pixhost/2003-08-24/killer-dealz_1062022036_MVC-004F.JPG
another:
http://www.gunbroker.com/pixhost/2003-08-24/killer-dealz_1062022037_MVC-005F.JPG
:)
BluesBear
October 22, 2003, 10:07 PM
I have handled and fired several of the Dan Wessons. I really like them.
If it wasn't for those horrid, foo-foo fad, front slide serriations I'd own one. :neener:
Zak Smith
October 22, 2003, 11:31 PM
They grow on you. I hated them too, and was skeptical of the external extractor.
It's for shooting, not looking at.
-z
rbert0005
October 23, 2003, 05:13 PM
Got three.
Yup, Pointman
Yup, Guardian Duece
Yup, Patriot
Can't go wrong with any of them.
Bob
Jspy
October 26, 2003, 09:36 AM
A word of caution about hanging out in the Dan Wesson section of the 1911 forum; it may lead to the owning of several different models ! Currently own three myself, including one of the 10mm Razorbacks.
hansolo
October 26, 2003, 09:17 PM
PLEASE submit your fine pistols to the California DOJ so that I can buy one....or more. :banghead:
P.S. I know the "mantra"..."Move out of that sucking blackhole of a gun-hating state:barf:"
Bren
October 26, 2003, 09:29 PM
Be carefull, DW uses cheap charlie parts and many have QC problems. :uhoh:
RSKING45
October 26, 2003, 09:46 PM
I have 3 DW 1911,A patriot .45 and 2 9mm.All three have many,many rounds down range and I have had no problems what so ever with them.These guns are Very accurate and reliable.
Rich
BluesBear
October 26, 2003, 10:27 PM
hmmmmmm I don't see Cheap Charlie brand parts in my Brownell's catalog? :confused:
They're not listed in my Dillon Blue Press either?
And no listing in Shotgun News?
Where can I buy some since I am a cheapskate?
Are they the same people who produce parts for all of those unreliable manufacturers like Smith & Wesson and Kimber? :rolleyes:
Bren
October 27, 2003, 01:39 AM
Well then look a little harder. Theres plenty of "mason" parts in Brownells.
S&W and Kimber make their own parts BTW. DW was going around looking for the cheapest "less" Money could buy. :barf: Each got "the soup of the day".
Got to love them Yellow beavertails too! ROTF!
BluesBear
October 27, 2003, 02:13 AM
So Kimber actually MAKES all of those MIM parts that break so often that I keep reading about here on THR?
Maybe they should outsource some.
c_yeager
October 27, 2003, 03:15 AM
You mean an american arms manufacture is using chinese parts?!?!?! Egads!
PCRCCW
October 27, 2003, 09:09 AM
Uhmmmm NO. Kimber has used CMC parts since before the dawn of time.
They were designed by McCormick and he sells the parts he designed and made for Kimber, as his own.
S&W supplies Kimber their frames and slides..other than that..I cant say S&W uses the same MIM parts as Kimber...
This I have no knowledge of..........
Shoot well
MJRW
October 27, 2003, 10:38 AM
Blues, you mean kind of like this?
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=341680
And if you've seen Bren on 1911forums, you'd know it is a waste of time to argue with him. Not because he's right, but because he is impervious to information. Can't seem to separate fact from opinion, either.
Bren
October 27, 2003, 01:13 PM
I didn't say Kimber MIM parts were good, just that they made their own. Yes, they are a CMC design but Kimber makes their own parts.
The frame and slide "Forgings" come from S&W which are some of the best and then milled in house. DW uses the same " Forgings" on there upper end guns but the lower end guns including the Panther uses Essex CAST frames and slide or just the frame.
Bob himself admitted using "masson" mag releases after they were breaking. :rolleyes:
Go ahead and slam the Brenster but it was I who got DW to stop putting huge logo's all over their guns and to offer no front serrations, rear sights that can move for windage and so on.
Most of "BREN" has been stricken from the record do to people that can't handle a straight talker. The board erases thead after some time so the PROOF AND FACTS are all but gone.
But at the top of the board is a hint from days gone by.
Heres a quote,, (Facts?) :rolleyes:
DanWesson_Rep
Moderator
Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Norwich NY
Posts: 530
Request for artwork
Here is your chance to participate directly. As we get started with a custom shop (if that is even what we should call it), we are going to need a logo. We want to be subtle, and people like ***Bren**** have already convinced us to tone down the lasering, so help us come up with a classy logo or lasering package to put on these guns.
So we are going to throw it out to the forum and take suggestions. Draw something up and submit it and we will either select a design or modify one and adopt it. Kind of cool because this stuff will end up in magazines and at the SHOT Show and such.
I guess jpg format or bmp would be nice but I think I can work with most anything. So get thinking and over the next few weeks lets see if we can't make a selection.
__________________
Phil
There ARE people out there that know the truth . Bren
Bren
October 27, 2003, 01:31 PM
Also, you can find 100's of threads like these. (facts?)
http://www.1911forum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=60737
Alot of people at the DW board are in denial but the fact is , you can catch them admitting the very same thing they try to hide which is bad parts.
My theory has always been that if you are the new kid on the block you have to try and be BETTER than the rest. Choosing cheap charlie parts was a bad move IMO and for a few $$ more they could have been what they claimed. Bren
BluesBear
October 27, 2003, 11:31 PM
Nice looking piece ya got there MJRW.
:)
I guess I was incorrect in thinking that Slides & Frames were parts.
What impresses me most about Bren is his modesty.
Bren
October 27, 2003, 11:52 PM
Even your own sigline suggest the same in both cases. (hypocritical and modesty)
"Guns should be made from **solid** metals. Plastic is for Model Trains".
Yes a slide and frame are parts BUT not untill they are turned into a part from metal forgings.:rolleyes:
We can nit pick or talk facts about the parts in DW's. Bren
BluesBear
October 28, 2003, 12:44 AM
Yes a slide and frame are parts BUT not untill they are turned into a part from metal forgings.
Oh excuse me.
I stand corrected.
It's CAST frames and slides that are not parts.
MJRW,
Which model is that?
I have not seen any DW around my area without the ungroovy front grooves.
Bren
October 28, 2003, 01:10 AM
Bluesbear, that is a "Panther", they were suposed to be all Black all BIZ but DW whored out to the SS crown and provided a oxymoron.
If you see any stainless pathers, let me know. :uhoh:
But what the hell am I talking about? I'm talking to a Blue bear! :uhoh:
BTW, the Razorbacks also came with no serrations (optional) and I'm sure they've seen the light and wild build more "unmolested" 1911's.
Would you believe that people told me they'd be lucky to sell 40 guns without front serrations? I fought on through anyway because right is always right. Bren
12-34hom
October 28, 2003, 05:18 PM
Bren those must be some awful sour grapes.....
Do yourself a favor = Give it a rest.
12-34hom.
Sean Smith
October 28, 2003, 05:44 PM
Oy vey, Bren, get a life already. Your antics already got you banned elsewhere. You are a former Dan Wesson fanboy who is bitter? Boo hoo. :rolleyes:
rbert0005
October 28, 2003, 08:48 PM
This is just another of thier CHEAP bunch of parts.
Bob
RSKING45
October 28, 2003, 09:23 PM
Bren, alright already we now how you stand with DW,so give everyone here break.
Bren
October 28, 2003, 09:49 PM
But they could have been somebody. :p
Robert, any 10mm can do that, even the super cheapie charlies. :neener:
25 yards. :neener:
BluesBear
October 28, 2003, 10:09 PM
Not a bad group but you need to adjust your sights.
You missed the cat entirely. :neener: :neener: :neener:
MJRW
October 30, 2003, 04:08 PM
Bren,
Despite all your omniscient wisdom, that is in fact NOT a stainless panther. It is a custom piece I called Dan Wesson about and they kindly and very skillfully assembled a very tightly fit, very well finished, accurate, reliable, and in my opinion, gorgeous 1911 which I was completely unable to get anywhere else with the specific list of features I wanted.
BluesBear
October 31, 2003, 12:09 AM
Cool MJRW, I knew you'd answer for yourself sooner or later.
Glad I finally got the correct answer.
Nice, very nice. I like almost everything about it.
Glad yours is the only one. I would be very tempted.
Covey Rise
October 31, 2003, 12:36 AM
Bren is biggest DW thread hijacker of all time, oh yeah, that's why they banned him several times from 1911forum, under several different alias's. He was one the nicest guys on the forum at one time, then something happened and it was a sad day from then on.
Oh well, he will come around eventually, please.
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