Last purchase at Cabela's


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TAG2501
July 5, 2009, 08:58 PM
I bought a rifle today at Cabela's in Fort Worth. They have had a pretty good recovery in their inventory and some of the pricing is getting much better. The firearm counter folks try to be helpful and deal with the highly mixed levels of knowledge they encounter in buyers (or at least shoppers).

To my dismay, after completing the purchase, with a few $00 of other goods, I was walked to the door and then handed my new firearm once outside the building. I've bought a few guns there over the years and this is the first time I've had the "Academy" buyers bum's rush. To drop hundreds of $ and then be walked out like a potential security risk strikes me as paranoid, disrespectful and hypocritical.

They'll take your money for a gun, but then don't trust you as a gun owner and customer to get out of the building without shooting someone.

I don't do business with someone who treats me with total disrespect. I won't be buying from them again, anytime, anything, for any reason after this.

It's a shame. Used to be a good retailer, for outdoors folks, with pretty good products. Clearly being run by the Omabatrons now.

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Mags
July 5, 2009, 09:02 PM
Let Cabela's corporate know how you feel. Shoot them an email or a nice letter.

hillbillydelux
July 5, 2009, 09:02 PM
Uhh Well every large retail store that has sold guns as long as I can remember has done the same thing. Dont hate on cabelas and blow it all out of proportion. If not for places like cabelas we wouldnt have squat right now.

jordan1948
July 5, 2009, 09:08 PM
I don't do business with someone who treats me with total disrespect. You gotta realize, whoever the sales person is that walked you out is only doing their job and following company policy. I work retail and have to do some things that I think are wrong/stupid but it's either that or find a new job and those aren't really easy to come by right now.

Ragnar Danneskjold
July 5, 2009, 09:08 PM
I respect Cabela's right as a business to operate as the deem fit.

But what exactly do they think they are accomplishing with this procedure? How is letting a customer walk out with the boxed gun themselves any different or more dangerous than an employee doing it?

Jorg Nysgerrig
July 5, 2009, 09:13 PM
To drop hundreds of $ and then be walked out like a potential security risk strikes me as paranoid, disrespectful and hypocritical.
That's because you don't understand why they are doing it.

It's for loss prevention. It's really simple. Guns going out the front door accompanied by an employee have been paid for. Guns going out the front door without an employee are a red flag for the door guys and loss prevention agents. They aren't worried about you shooting someone, they are worried about people stealing guns and all the headaches that go with it.

The Cabela's store here has over a hundred guns between the used racks and the library that anyone can just walk up to and pick up. They have tons of gun cases too. What's to stop someone from putting a gun in one of those cases and walking out, flashing the receipt for candied almonds and fudge or reaching behind the counter and grabbing a box at the gun checkout with a receipt already taped to it when the employees look the other way? That's right. A simple policy of having an employee carry the gun to the door so every knows it has been paid for.

It's the store protecting their interest. It's the same reason that small high dollar items are in cases instead of just out on the shelves. Plenty of stores escort high dollar items out. Go to WalMart and buy a big screen TV and listen to the overhead speakers. They will mention a big ticket item is leaving. Do you think they are afraid someone is going to watch TV on their way out or do you think maybe they'd rather not have people walking out with free TVs?

Ruggles
July 5, 2009, 09:15 PM
"But what exactly do they think they are accomplishing with this procedure? How is letting a customer walk out with the boxed gun themselves any different or more dangerous than an employee doing it?"

Because as sure as the sun will rise some bumkin will just have to pull the new gun out of the box so he can show his wife, girlfriend, kids or buddies. Now you have some Wally walking around around a crowded retail store swinging around a firearms that no one knows if it is loaded or not, as I am sure he could purchase ammo with the gun.

I know if I was were in a retail store and some guy was swinging around his new shotgun showing his kids while the wife shopped for new boots I would not feel all warm and comfy not knowing the guns status or the gun swinger's gun handling skill.

John Parker
July 5, 2009, 09:18 PM
Because as sure as the sun will rise some bumkin will just have to pull the new gun out of the box so he can show his wife, girlfriend, kids or buddies. Now you have some Wally walking around around a crowded retail store swinging around a firearms that no one knows if it is loaded or not, as I am sure he could purchase ammo with the gun.

I remember being outside of a gun show once and watching this very, um, interesting looking fellow trying to stick a 20rd duckbill magazine on an SKS he had just purchased. It made me decidedly uncomfortable, particularly as the muzzle swept myself and other people several times. Fortunately, a guy went up and roughly thrust his barrel in the air and told him to watch where the hell he was pointing that thing.

TheFallGuy
July 5, 2009, 09:19 PM
I have always been treated the same way at all "big box" out door stores. Gander, Cabela's, Dick's... Never at a regular gun shop but they are usually much smaller and therefore easier to watch. Last week a friend of mine purchased a SW M&P340 for CCW use at Gander. He has his permit and also bought a holster. Even though he had a permit he was still escorted out and the firearm had to be cased.

I don't think that it is a respect issue, just more of an asset protection issue. Especially with a long arm. Think how many duck calls you can fit into a Remington 870 box. The guy who escorted me has always been the guy who sold me the gun. It's usually been pretty casual with lots of hunting/shooting BS being exchanged.

If I can save $50 on a gun by being "escorted" out of the store versus paying full retail or more at a small gun shop, I will. Small gun shops have their place for specialty guns/ammo that can't be found anywhere else.

sophijo
July 5, 2009, 09:25 PM
Part of the the problem for them is lawyers etc and the fact that some buy/rent a firearm load it up and suicide. I guess they'd rather clean-up in the parking lot.

Jim K
July 5, 2009, 09:26 PM
It also prevents a nutcase cop, BATFE agent, or TV reporter from saying they were allowed to take a gun out of the store without some "proper procedure" they just made up. ("Nothing prevented this reporter from loading that semi-automatic machinegun assault shotgun and killing everyone in the store. Clearly we need new laws....")

Jim

jfdavis58
July 5, 2009, 09:26 PM
Aaaawwwhhh, Grow up!

Buy any compact-sized high dollar item at most any sporting goods store (perhaps most any retail) these days and you get an escort to the check-out/door.

It has nothing to do with your character or your manhood/manliness.

It's simple security. What stops you from holstering a pistol, swapping a repair tag on a long gun or bow or pocketing any other item and breezing out the door?

And they're supposed to know you're the honest one just by looking at you?

oneounceload
July 5, 2009, 09:28 PM
If I can save $50 on a gun by being "escorted" out of the store versus paying full retail or more at a small gun shop, I will

And if you can do that at a GM, Cabela's or similar...THAT is something else....most of these folks are $50 or more OVER MSRP

jordan1948
July 5, 2009, 09:30 PM
Even the dvds from the $5 bin back in electro have to be either carried up to customer service or escorted to the front. Like most have said it's all about security.

PA Freedom
July 5, 2009, 09:37 PM
I agree that it's probally a loss prevention issue. Cabela's official policy on carrying of firearms in their stores goes off of state law, I believe. Here in PA, both OC and CC (with a valid PA LTCF) are legal most places. I have OCed in the Cabela's here, and still was escorted out of the store with my firearms purchase.

shameless
July 5, 2009, 09:39 PM
If they have what I want, at a price I think is fair, and they need to
carry my case of ammo, rifle, pistol, to the front, (cashier), who cares. It's not
because they don't trust or respect you. It's policy.

And NOT shopping there.......the only one losing out on that is you.

THE DARK KNIGHT
July 5, 2009, 09:40 PM
OP: Cry more.

Jorg (and a few others) have it right. There are many reasons to walk you out of the store.

TexasRifleman
July 5, 2009, 09:44 PM
OP says:

I've bought a few guns there over the years and this is the first time I've had the "Academy" buyers bum's rush

You sure you want to stick to that story? Walking gun customers to the door has been Cabelas policy since the Ft Worth store opened.

I doubt very seriously if you've bought a gun there and not seen this before.

As other say, it's pretty standard stuff. If I was running a large business like that I'd probably do the same thing, for the same reasons.

I'd do the same with camcorders and expensive electronics too, which many stores do.

Ethereal
July 5, 2009, 09:45 PM
Last purchase I made at a Cabela's was.....a mountain dew from the pop machine out front. Unless I update my DL and CPL with my current address they won't sell me a firearm. So on the bright side at least you got to walk out with a new toy as opposed to me driving an hour and a half to get there to pick up the pistol they had but being turned away on account of another CYA policy they have. Oh well....

christcorp
July 5, 2009, 09:50 PM
Did you THINK TO ASK THEM WHY? Is it possible that there's a state law that says that personal firearms aren't allowed? (I don't know, just an idea). Maybe their insurance company has some rules set down??? Again, a possibility. When I had an employee complain to me about another employee; or I had one of my kids complain about their brother or sister; the first thing out of my mouth was always: "What did they say when you talked to them about it?" Of course, most of the time they said they DIDN'T talk to them. So I tell them to get away from me and come back after you've talked to them and given them a chance to explain themselves. Well, I suppose you didn't ask the employee WHY he was walking you out, did you? Personally, I think you're blowing it our or proportion.

2nd 41
July 5, 2009, 10:39 PM
Same with me. I bought a Colt GCT from Cabelas. Was escorted to the door.
I had this experience once before at Sports Authority. Bought a Moss 500 Cruiser with Ammo. Had to take each one separately to my car after being walked to the door. I asked for a large trash bag to put the Shotgun in. I told the escort I am more worried about the jokers in the parking lot than you are worried about me.
Anyway the escort deal does not bother me. No offense taken. It's their business. It's their house. They are covering their own butts.

redneck2
July 5, 2009, 10:47 PM
They have ammo on the shelves available to anyone. What's to stop you from loading up and popping someone?

I was talking with a clerk at Home Depot about theft and shop lifting. She said it's absolutely amazing. Guys will take large items (power saws, etc.) and just carry them out. They know the store can't or won't try to stop them once they get to the door.

Don't blame Cabelas. Blame our society and degraded moral values.

I've worked in a gun shop and seen some of the gun handling "skills". I'd just as soon be safe.

Oh...you'd better not try to get any electronics at Wal-Mart either. I bought a $12 flash stick at Christmas and got escorted to the check-out.

Tommygunn
July 5, 2009, 10:49 PM
Wal Mart does this too; I purchased a Savage MKII a couple weeks ago and the sports goods manager walked me out.


Ooooops ... maybe I shouldn't have mentioned Wal Mart in a cabela's thread?????:what::rolleyes:

ok2h8uofm
July 5, 2009, 10:56 PM
They do this "sometimes" @ Gander Mountain. To make it better a friend and me went and bought guns at the same time. They did not walk mine out. Oh yeah I am white and my friend is 6'3" 275 and black. Gandermountain walked his out?!?:banghead:this is not the first time!

Boba Fett
July 5, 2009, 10:57 PM
Aaaawwwhhh, Grow up!

OP: Cry more.

Have to agree.

I was just in the Cabela's Fort Worth store over the weekend and got a great new rifle. Sure enough, they escorted me out. I guess I was too happy with my purchase to feel upset. Or maybe I just have the common sense to understand there are a number of excellent reasons for their policy, none of which are a slight against me.


Bottom line: Grow up ya narcissists.

4v50 Gary
July 5, 2009, 11:01 PM
Make the guy carry it all the way to your car. He's now your gun boy, bwana.

scottaschultz
July 5, 2009, 11:39 PM
I don't mind the "escort" service at Cabelas, but the reason I won't buy any more firearms from them is because of the way I was treated by the sales person the last time. I had been saving my nickels and dimes and decided to finally get that .357 Blackhawk I have always wanted. I had been looking online and knew how much they cost. I knew I might have to pay a little more at Cabelas, but it would be worth it so I could take it home that day and not have to pay the FFL fee if they had one in stock.

Of course they didn't have one in stock! When I told the salesman that I was looking to spend $400 on a SA .357, he said that no such gun existed and offered to show me other guns for quite a bit more. I thanked him (although I don't know why) and ordered one online.

Scott

smithmax
July 6, 2009, 12:02 AM
I 2nd the idea of having them carry it all the way to your car. Instead of getting all bitter about it, just imagine that they are happy shopped there and wanted to help you carry your new tools out to your car!

WTBguns10kOK
July 6, 2009, 12:21 AM
This thread is wack. The OP is getting more severely pwned than usual, both moderators have the best comments...weird...

If anything, realize that Cabellas is taking gun safety very seriously and that there is almost no chance of you getting flagged at the door security sensor thingy...not bad really. Just imagine if you could be handed everything you wanted on the way to your car.

amd6547
July 6, 2009, 08:20 AM
I won't buy from Cabelas anymore because they jacked up the interest rate on my Cabelas visa.

RDak
July 6, 2009, 08:29 AM
Double post!! :o

RDak
July 6, 2009, 08:32 AM
When I bought a rifle from Cabela's a few years ago, I had the guard walk with me to my car. There were a few gang-bangers hanging out in the parking lot.

Of course, this store was near Detroit.

Sorry for the off-topic tidbit.

Carry on guys! :D

ezypikns
July 6, 2009, 09:39 AM
I'll even let them walk me home.

JoeMal
July 6, 2009, 09:59 AM
"That's because you don't understand why they are doing it.

It's for loss prevention. It's really simple. Guns going out the front door accompanied by an employee have been paid for. Guns going out the front door without an employee are a red flag for the door guys and loss prevention agents. They aren't worried about you shooting someone, they are worried about people stealing guns and all the headaches that go with it.

The Cabela's store here has over a hundred guns between the used racks and the library that anyone can just walk up to and pick up. They have tons of gun cases too. What's to stop someone from putting a gun in one of those cases and walking out, flashing the receipt for candied almonds and fudge or reaching behind the counter and grabbing a box at the gun checkout with a receipt already taped to it when the employees look the other way? That's right. A simple policy of having an employee carry the gun to the door so every knows it has been paid for.

It's the store protecting their interest. It's the same reason that small high dollar items are in cases instead of just out on the shelves. Plenty of stores escort high dollar items out. Go to WalMart and buy a big screen TV and listen to the overhead speakers. They will mention a big ticket item is leaving. Do you think they are afraid someone is going to watch TV on their way out or do you think maybe they'd rather not have people walking out with free TVs?"



+1 for this reponse

doc2rn
July 6, 2009, 10:10 AM
I asked once and the guy at the guncounter said it reduced their insurance premium, so that is why they escort you. If you dont want to be escorted once you have paid flash the receipt and say hands off my weapon if they insist tell them they touch your weapon you call cops for theft. You paid for it its yours! Dicks no longer escorts me.

ToadPS
July 6, 2009, 10:27 AM
Last purchase I made at a Cabela's was.....a mountain dew from the pop machine out front. Unless I update my DL and CPL with my current address they won't sell me a firearm. So on the bright side at least you got to walk out with a new toy as opposed to me driving an hour and a half to get there to pick up the pistol they had but being turned away on account of another CYA policy they have. Oh well....

I think you'll find, if you research it, that having an ID with your current address is a Federal requirement for the Form 4473. All federal firearms dealers are required to verify the identity of the transferee by examining the identification document and to make sure that the purchaser's correct and current residence address are listed on the form.

Cabela's does this by simply asking you if your ID shows your current address. Most people are honest about this. Some lie.

The Feds take a very dim view of lies on a 4473. If they somehow catch you, expect to do some time.

The easiest thing is to update your DL.

jackstinson
July 6, 2009, 10:29 AM
I won't buy from Cabelas anymore because they jacked up the interest rate on my Cabelas visa.
Unless yours is vastly different than most "Cabela's cards"....Cabela's is just the logo on the card....Cabela's is not a bank which issues credit cards and sets the interest.
My "Cabela's VISA" was issued by WAMU (Washington Mutual). WAMU went under in 2008 and was purchased by CHASE.


Unless I update my DL and CPL with my current address they won't sell me a firearm.
I think you'll find, if you research it, that you may be required by state law to have your current address on your driver's license. I know that I am. The first thing I did after moving a couple years back was to get a new driver's license, the second thing I did was to take that new DL to the Sheriff's office and get a new CHL with the new address.


As for the "Cabela's walk"? Ain't no big deal.....no need to whine about what is getting to be a common practice in some larger stores due to theft and/or company policy.

41022collector
July 6, 2009, 10:29 AM
I love Cabelas, that bargin basement is a lure for me and I can attest that I have more stuff from there than any one man should.

HillBilly hit the head on the nail, it is to prevent loss and confusion.

want a real bad horror story...

I went to Orlando and decided to goto Bass Pro Outdoor world there. I went straight to the firearms. 10 seconds later a 300 lb bearded burly guy walked up behind the counter and said... "you look like you are from the North, we do not sell pieces to people not from Fla nor do we send them to their FFL. If you are a tourist, please do not ask to see any firearm."

I stood there with a deer caught in headlights look and slowly just turned around and walked out the door and vowed to never BUY anything from Johnny Morris and his bass pro folks. I even put a sign in my shop to help me Boycott Bass Pro and to Support Cabelas. They lost close to $300 in ammo sales (I had a friend from Orlando there with me), plus I was going to buy a salt water fly fishing outfit at who knows untold over priced it may have been.

I have basically had this same rude and rough treatment in the three Bass Pro's I have been in. Atlanta and Southern Wisconsin.

Cabelas, when I bought a piece from them and there was a BATFE delay, they said wait a few, it will come through, in the mean time, they gave me a coupon to the restaurant and they put out for a Smoked Elk Sandwich, drink and chips while I waited. Sure enough got back and bam, there was the approval.

Yes, after I was done shopping they walked me out the front door with my piece...... but I was full, happy and glad I had people there that cared.

I have yet to have had a bad experience in Cabelas.

Regards,
Mike

GEM
July 6, 2009, 01:09 PM
Might also be to keep you from loading it and shooting yourself. I vaguely recall hearing about that. At least, you are outside if you decide to do yourself in.

Uncle Mike
July 6, 2009, 01:49 PM
Don't blame Cabelas. Blame our society and degraded moral values.

They have ammo on the shelves available to anyone. What's to stop you from loading up and popping someone?


Or maybe I just have the common sense to understand there are a number of excellent reasons for their policy, none of which are a slight against me.

Did you THINK TO ASK THEM WHY? Is it possible that there's a state law that says that personal firearms aren't allowed? (I don't know, just an idea). Maybe their insurance company has some rules set down??? Again, a possibility.

I don't think that it is a respect issue, just more of an asset protection issue. Especially with a long arm. Think how many duck calls you can fit into a Remington 870 box.

Well there you have it... all perfect points to why you were so disrespected and belittled.....:neener:

Now, grow up, shape up, suck it up and chill out.:D:banghead:

Try to protect your business from scumbags and someone has to get their panties in a wad.lol

Ever ask a criminal if he/she is going to, or have ever done any wrong....:scrutiny:

I promiss if they(Cabela's) interviewed everyone that passed through their doors, not
ONE person would say that they were going to go postal in the store, shoplift, improperly handle their newly purchased firearm or anything else bad, nope everybody is a angle.


:D

longbeard48
July 6, 2009, 02:08 PM
Well, I'm not sure of what their reason(s) would be, but I expect that the bottom line is to save them money, which means they will also be saving you money. Nothing to get your panties in a wad over!

damien
July 6, 2009, 02:22 PM
I have gotten that treatment from Bass Pro, Cabela's, and Walmart. At Gander Mountain they let you walk yourself out, even though they are close to the same size. I don't think it is good policy, but I don't take it personal.

I've always wondered WHY they do it. I mean, if you were going to do something stupid, you could just walk right back in, right? Or is it just more for really stupid characers who might want to take it out of the case to show a buddy or his wife before he leaves the store and maybe scares a soccer mom shopping for boots?

BruceB
July 6, 2009, 02:33 PM
Last week I went to Cabela's Reno store for some fishing gear. The final tally was over $600.

I had identified a nice rod from their internet catalog, and it was on sale there for $109.99, reduced from $189.99. I printed-out the appropriate sheet. When I asked the salesman about it, he said, "Let's see if we have it in stock." He did indeed have it, but at the regular price of $189. I was instructed to take it to the checkout, where the SALE price would be honored if I showed them the print-out.

It was indeed, and I saved $80 on a very nice spinning rod. This is yet another reason why I continue to shop at Cabela's.

Several guns have also come to live with me from their store in Reno, and I've always been treated very nicely indeed by everyone involved.

Good store, good folks.

Deckard
July 6, 2009, 02:38 PM
The Cabela's store here has over a hundred guns between the used racks and the library that anyone can just walk up to and pick up. All the big stores in my area, Bass Pro, Cabelas, Gander, etc. all have their guns behind a counter and out of reach. Which is a pain at Bass Pro because it will take a miracle to get some help from an associate.

I have basically had this same rude and rough treatment in the three Bass Pro's I have been in. Atlanta and Southern Wisconsin. Same here, never been to one I didn't come away from feeling sour.

Deltaboy
July 6, 2009, 03:22 PM
Since I have know some Wal mart CEOs in the past I can almost promise it is a anti- theft issue and a anti-lawsuit one too.

BBQLS1
July 6, 2009, 03:52 PM
Jorg has it right. Don't get all butt hurt over it.

FlyinBryan
July 6, 2009, 04:04 PM
i agree with many others here.

major corruption in government

oil companies getting richer by sticking it to us more and more

the feds take 1/3rd of everything i make, and 1/10th of every penny i spend.

the city i live in is widening my road and taking my usable land to do it.

you get told what you can and cant have on your own property

multi billion dollar bailouts of companies "in trouble" and the the officers give themselves million dollar bonuses while we scratch and claw to pay the taxes to fund it.

i could go on all day.


and your worried about someone walking with you to the door?

the last time i bought a pistol at bass pro shops, i recall having such a nice conversation on after market parts for the pistol, that he walked out side with me and we stood by the boats and chatted for another ten minutes.

maskedman504
July 6, 2009, 04:28 PM
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stchman
July 6, 2009, 04:33 PM
They are not doing it to be disrespectful to you. I bought my 10/22 from them and they walked me to the door, handed me my rifle, shook my hand and wished me a nice day.

My buddy bought his 10/22 from Bass Pro and they did hte same thing. No biggie.

aftCG
July 6, 2009, 04:48 PM
When I was 18 (a whole lot of years ago) I bought a heavy barrel .243 from a place called Warshal's in Seattle (long gone). When I paid for it at the cash register they gave me a receipt and said "have a nice day".
An awkward moment later I walked two blocks through downtown Seattle with my rifle in my hand. Not one person was willing to share the sidewalk with me.

Time are a changin

Madcap_Magician
July 6, 2009, 04:49 PM
Last three handguns I bought I walked in with a loaded gun, the clerks knew I had it, and they let me carry the one I bought from the time I signed the receipt on.

aerod1
July 6, 2009, 07:43 PM
Don't blame Cabela's. They are only "trying" to "lawyer proof" themselves.

AnthonyC.
July 6, 2009, 07:47 PM
Every Single Time I have every bought a gun, I have been walked to the door, not once did I think bad about the store for it.

cchris
July 6, 2009, 08:53 PM
Every retail store I've gone to does this. It's not that they don't trust you. The guy even carried mine out and said "I know, it's stupid, but it's the store policy."

If I didn't go to a place because they walked me out, I wouldn't be buying from Cabela's, Dicks, or Grady's - the three decent places to buy guns.

noskilz
July 6, 2009, 08:55 PM
Man, you guys are tuff on the OP. Maybe you should lighten up . . .



Naw! :neener: :D :neener:

Keb
July 6, 2009, 09:25 PM
They are also looking out for the FEAR FACTOR of other customers....they may freak out seeing you walking around with the gun.

highmountain78
July 6, 2009, 09:28 PM
The Cabela's store policy of an employee accompanying you out with your gun is the same here in Minnesota.

Please understand this is for loss prevention, it is not meant as an affront to you.

Losing any firearm is a lot more complicated than ordinary item loss. An FFL license, of the Cabela's class, entitles the BATFE to make any random book inspections and a lot more. If anything is missing thats not in inventory or the book, you will have alot of explaining to do.

I doubt any of us would wish to be in that position.

Runningman
July 6, 2009, 09:39 PM
I guess I'm lucky enough to have a local gun shop who the owner and employees know me by name. And don't escort me to the door like I have done something wrong there after spending my money there.

DennisB
July 6, 2009, 09:55 PM
The Ft Worth Cabelas folks have walked me to the door many times; usually it's Brian, or Maria, or H.B., or Melissa... I understand why, and enjoy the talk with them along the way. No one's mentioned yet that they also have a sign-in and escort for folks bringing a weapon into the store for sale/trade--for many of the reasons already given above, I'm sure.

earlthegoat2
July 6, 2009, 10:40 PM
grow some thicker skin

toivo
July 8, 2009, 12:08 AM
My local Gander Mountain has always let me walk out with my gun purchases on my own. FWIW, they have a sign at door saying "All guns entering the store must be checked at the customer service counter. THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO CCW HOLDERS." When they say "checked," they don't mean you leave it there; most people are bringing them if for trade-in or service. They just mean that they want to open it up and make sure it's unloaded. Since they don't escort you back to the gun counter, there are people walking around the store with cased/boxed arms all the time.

Their prices are still ridiculous, though.

Davek1977
July 8, 2009, 06:31 AM
In today's world, the "walk of shame" seems to be part of life at most major retailers. A hardware store literally across the street from my house began selling guns last year. In november, I purchased a handgun there, and got to exeprience the "walk of shame" for the first time. I was told directly from the salesman who escorted me out that "the ATF agent who trained our employees told uus we basically have to do this to cover our own butts. Appearently, this "agent" filled the employees full of tales of people buying guns, then loading them up right in the ammo department and other assorted craziness. While I know the walk isn't (as of yet) mandated by law, it appears that the ATF is basically instructingf retailers to do this. Of course, I wasn't there and I didn't hear the words spoken by the agent. I'm relying on secondhand info, but due to the fact that the employee was more embarrassed about hafving to carry my gun than I was, I saw no reason to doubt him. He obviously didn't WANT to be doing it, but appearently he was told he "had to". Regardless, the "walk" hasn't turned me off of shopping there, nor do I eblieve it should stop others. Just think...if we all boycott every major gun retailer....why would anyone continue to sell guns? If it becomes more hassle and creates more hard feelings among its customer base, it would seem the easy solution would be to simply get out of the game. Fewer retailers means less competion for business, which means higher prices. In the end, what does anyone gain by this? I won't aptronize businesses with anti-gun rethoric, but I won't be boycotting Cabelas becasue of this either

BENELLIMONTE
July 8, 2009, 07:52 AM
Every gun I have purchased at Cabelas, Wally World, Garts,
etc I have had the person that sold it to me carry it (boxed) to the exit and then hand it to me. No big deal!

chuckusaret
July 8, 2009, 08:21 AM
Dont hate on cabelas and blow it all out of proportion. If not for places like cabelas we wouldnt have squat right now.

We have to accept being treated as a security risk because we have few places to purchase guns. Bull, I have dozens of guns and not one from Cabelas. I have purchased weapons at Gander Mountain and Dick's and have never been treated as a BG. There are no signs at the entrance of either store saying "No Guns". I don't buy from Cabelas and won't buy from them in the future.

Boba Fett
July 8, 2009, 12:11 PM
Posted by chuckusaret
We have to accept being treated as a security risk because we have few places to purchase guns. Bull, I have dozens of guns and not one from Cabelas. I have purchased weapons at Gander Mountain and Dick's and have never been treated as a BG. There are no signs at the entrance of either store saying "No Guns". I don't buy from Cabelas and won't buy from them in the future.

Oh grow up. Stop your narcissistic whining.

Get it through your head that Cabela's policy is not a slight against you personally. They aren't treating you as a BG.

Using your "I'm being treated as a BG" reasoning,

(1) You must not go to gun shows, since they don't let you carry loaded firearms in there and they check any firearms you do bring in. Apparently, their policy has nothing to do with the safety of the patrons at the show. They are only doing it because they see you as a BG.

(2) I guess you don't buy ammo at Wal-Mart, since they check your ID to purchase ammunition. Apparently, their policy has nothing to do with keeping ammo out of the hands of underage minors. It couldn't have anything to do with keeping civil litigation and BATF problems at bay. They are only doing it because they see you as a BG. You probably don't buy spray paint, super glue, beer, or R-rated movies there either...

(3) You must not shop at Academy, since they have a policy about bringing firearms in to be seen by their firearms department and escort you to the firearms counter after they check your firearm. This has nothing to do with the potential that you didn't clear the firearm and might hurt/kill someone in the store. They are only doing it because they see you as a BG.


Get the picture?

Realize the world doesn't revolve around you and the policies Cabela's has are simply for your benefit, the safety of their patrons, and the civil and federal liabilities they must contend with.

Mark K. C.
July 8, 2009, 01:18 PM
Have you bought any ammo from a Bi-Mart ? They carrie the boxes up to the check stand. Last time just, to be a pain , I strolled up and down a few isles looking at stuf befor heading to the check-out.

nwilliams
July 8, 2009, 06:54 PM
So they walked you to the door and handed you the gun. What's the big deal?

TexasRifleman
July 8, 2009, 07:18 PM
We have to accept being treated as a security risk because we have few places to purchase guns. Bull, I have dozens of guns and not one from Cabelas. I have purchased weapons at Gander Mountain and Dick's and have never been treated as a BG. There are no signs at the entrance of either store saying "No Guns". I don't buy from Cabelas and won't buy from them in the future.


No, you have to be treated with utter paranoia by corporations who have to live in fear of a government agency that we as voters have allowed to run amok.

If YOU had the possibility of facing the penalties ATF can bestow, and had knowledge of the kind of BS that Bloomberg and others have pulled would YOU run your business any other way? Especially if firearms were not 100% of what you do?

Different corporations will have different levels of paranoia, but it's OUR fault for not making our politicians deal with this agency, not a company just trying to stay in business.

UniversalFrost
July 8, 2009, 07:32 PM
scored an rcbs turret press at the cabelas in glendale for $104 this past weekend!!! thought I was misreading the price, but they were clearancing them out and i walked out with 2 of the presses for the price of 1 normally. I already sold the other press online for $50 more than what i paid for it.

chuckusaret
July 8, 2009, 07:38 PM
(1) You must not go to gun shows, since they don't let you carry loaded firearms in there and they check any firearms you do bring in.
I have been attending gun shows and gun related events for about 60 years, how long have you been attending shows. No loaded gun in a gun show makes since, but I still carry my CCW and ammo without an escourt..

(2) I guess you don't buy ammo at Wal-Mart, since they check your ID to purchase ammunition.

Wal Mart does not check my ID


(3) You must not shop at Academy, even though you claim you do, since they have a policy about bringing firearms in to be seen by their firearms department and escort you to the firearms counter after they check your firearm.

We don’t have an Academy and I have never claimed I made a visit to their store

Get the picture?

No I don’t get the picture jarhead and I am not a whining narcissistic.

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Ed Ames
July 8, 2009, 07:52 PM
Look at it as a personality test.

It is what it is... they walk you to the door, and hand you a gun. How you interpret it, on the other hand, is an indication of your preconceptions and personal biases. If you interpret it as a walk of shame it's because you think of what you are doing as somehow shameful. You could as easily think of it as an honor escort... or a loss prevention strategy... or anything else.

Personally, I see it as somewhere between an honor march and a loss prevention strategy. I'm buying something special enough to get special treatment. Of course, I've also joked with the folks at the gun counter about people walking to the front door, pocketing the pistol, and walking right back in. They've seen it happen and think it's funny as anything. Not "funny awkward" or "funny suspicious" but "funny I like it."

Boba Fett
July 8, 2009, 08:21 PM
I have never claimed I made a visit to their store
Sorry about that. My mistake. Yet my point about Academy is still just as valid.

Wal Mart does not check my ID
Lucky you. Just because they didn't check your ID doesn't mean they don't have that policy. Cabela's policy is no worse than Wal-Mart. Cabela's is apparently more consistent in following theirs.

I have been attending gun shows and gun related events for about 60 years, how long have you been attending shows. No loaded gun in a gun show makes since, but I still carry my CCW and ammo without an escourt..
I'm glad that having unloaded and zip-tied firearms at a gun show makes sense to you.

Now, take that sense we've cultivated and apply it to Cabela's. Is it just possible that they don't want stupid people doing stupid things in their store? Maybe they have to worry about the civil and federal legal issues? How about the simple fact that, it's not about you!


I have purchased weapons at Gander Mountain and Dick's and have never been treated as a BG.
I am not a whining narcissistic.
When you are unable to see that things are not specifically about you/directed at you, then yeah... ya totally are.

To reiterate maskedman504's excellent thoughts on the matter:
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dullh
July 8, 2009, 09:07 PM
This is about the same thing as the "purists" getting their panties all a-tizzy over "no guns allowed" signs at gun shops...the fact is Cabela's can run their business however they see fit, and I don't think they're going to go under just because you were offended and decided to vote with your feet. Dick's Sporting Goods did the exact same thing to me back in November. I wasn't offended. They probably have liability insurance standards.

Just to let you know if you choose to shop elsewhere, I just dropped over $500 buying a new treestand and deer cart from Cabela's. I stand ready to make up the profit loss which resulted from your decision to shop elsewhere.

rbernie
July 8, 2009, 11:39 PM
Bickering is unbecoming.

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