GERMANY: Gun law poll - Vote "NEIN" now. Poll closes on Wednesday
Chisel Head
July 7, 2009, 05:13 AM
http://www.stadtkurier.de/index-neu.shtml
Click on Abstimmen directly under the dark blue box where it says UMFRAGE on the right hand side.
Poll question:
Ist die Verschärfung des Waffenrechts sinnvoll?
(Translation) Is it sensible to tighten firearms legeslation?
Ja = Yes
Nein = No
Don't forget to click the graphic that says "Abstimmen" (vote) after you've made your selection
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John Parker
July 7, 2009, 07:11 AM
"Is it sensible to further restrict firearms legislation?" It seems the answer would be yes, that you want to restrict firearms legislation instead of letting it continue...
As an American, should I vote in a German poll? Are they even wanting me to?
henry-ctc
July 7, 2009, 07:22 AM
Antigun activist are internationally organized. Those who are against them should also be.
cambeul41
July 7, 2009, 07:44 AM
Is it sensible to further restrict firearms legeslation?
"Google Translate" renders it . . .
Is the strengthening of the weapons laws make sense?
I would appreciate the help of German speakers since these meanings seem opposite.
charliewood
July 7, 2009, 08:04 AM
I had four years of German (high) and the way I read it is as Google transulates. But I've not conversed in German for the better part of 20 yrs.
chuckusaret
July 7, 2009, 09:11 AM
Yes = 92% No=8%
MisterMike
July 7, 2009, 11:07 AM
It's all perfectly clear: If you vote "yes," you're either voting for or against stricter gun laws . . . or maybe not.
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
If you're going to engage in activism, it might be advisable to figure out what the heck you're advocating for or against before you cast a vote
Auf wiedersehen.
FullEffect1911
July 7, 2009, 11:35 AM
Me thinks something is getting lost in translation here. Personally I won't vote on a poll that isn't clear.
Lightninstrike
July 7, 2009, 12:02 PM
^^
Exactly.
Art Eatman
July 7, 2009, 12:13 PM
Seems to me that there is too much confusion for us to continue with this. Too much of a chance of voting against what we think we're supporting.
Eightball
July 7, 2009, 12:33 PM
I'm not voting on it until someone gives a clear definition of the question.
Marcus5aurelius
July 7, 2009, 12:39 PM
"Does the tightening of gun laws make sense?"
Ja=Yes, Nein=No
ArfinGreebly
July 7, 2009, 01:16 PM
Verschärfung Verschärfung f increase
[+von Gegensätzen] intensification
(=Verschlimmerung) aggravation
[+von Spannung] heightening, mounting
[+von Regeln, Gesetzen] tightening
I don't think this is about restricting legislation.
My German is pretty rusty, but tightening seems to be the more apt interpretation.
I'm certainly not voting "Yes" on that.
berrieberrie
July 7, 2009, 01:22 PM
OK, I voted (if only because I wanted to look at how it's phrased, and since I was there anyway...)
From a fluent German speaker: the question translates as "Does tightening the gun laws make sense ?". Of course, this remains debatable - one could argue "I am in favor of stricter gun laws but I doubt it would make the country safer, so I'd still have to say No" - but I'd say they want to ask "Do our gun laws have to become stricter ?". To which the answer should be, of course, "Nein" (No).
Chisel Head
July 8, 2009, 04:03 AM
Indeed, voting "Yes" means tightening access to firearms.
Voting no, keeps things as they are, without making things even worse.
Sorry folks. I went back and edited the original message, to make it clear.
I voted 4 times. It seems that they delete polling records, after 24 hours. We're in a comfortable majority. An editorial commentary, on the poll, will get released in Thursday's edition. As soon as it's released, I'll post the translation
sarduy
July 8, 2009, 04:15 AM
i'm not voting on something i can't fully understand :scrutiny:
Shung
July 8, 2009, 07:04 AM
voted
cambeul41
July 8, 2009, 10:09 AM
Ja [6%]
Nein [94%]
Cannonball888
July 8, 2009, 10:55 AM
Wir haben Sieg!
Tanzen! http://atypically.net/smilies/darkdance.gif
StephenT
July 8, 2009, 11:38 AM
Translation: "do further restrictions of gun rights make sense?" You should be answering "nein".
Jaws
July 8, 2009, 02:01 PM
Voted. Nein
Was 50%-50%
Viel Glück. :)
Zundfolge
July 8, 2009, 02:21 PM
The question has changed and now is; "Härtere Strafen für Gewaltdelikte?"
Which means "Tougher sentences for violent offenses?"
So now maybe the proper answer is "Ja"
SCKimberFan
July 8, 2009, 07:50 PM
Voted Nein
Was 50%-50%
Pro gun needs help.
Water-Man
July 8, 2009, 08:10 PM
Americans should mind their own business!
Chisel Head
July 9, 2009, 05:34 AM
The majority of Americans have some German ancestry. That's rapidly changing
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