Eavesdropping on old dudes


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jimmyraythomason
July 7, 2009, 02:14 PM
I had an appointment with my cardiologist this morning. While sitting in the waiting room,my ears picked up a nearby conversation between two older gentlemen behind me. Their subject; GUNS! Okay,I am not prone to listening in on someone else's conversations. In fact I make every attempt to "tune out" things that do not concern me. However,these gentlemen quickly got my attention. No specific models were mentioned but one fellow said he cleaned his collection at least once a month while the other cleaned his every 2 weeks, ALL 8 gun cabinets full! Even including a walk-in "cabinet" in a closet! He also said he was planning on buying a revolving shotgun "like the Chicago Police use". "I don't care if I never shoot it,I just want to get one". Now what better reason than that is there? . Drat!! They are calling me back. But it's just gettin' good!

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ezypikns
July 7, 2009, 03:32 PM
And our kids are all grown and gone so we can spend money on ourselves..............as long as we can hide the purchases from our wives.

MMCSRET
July 7, 2009, 03:45 PM
I am one of those old guys!!! I have never had to hide guns or gun money from my wife, I don't understand why anyone would want to hide that kind of thing, fear?, what kind of fear does that to a person?

Mohawk
July 7, 2009, 03:50 PM
Hope everything went well with the cardiologist for you.

CoRoMo
July 7, 2009, 03:53 PM
...he cleaned his collection at least once a month while the other cleaned his every 2 weeks, ALL 8 gun cabinets full!

If it ain't dirty... clean it until it is.

loadedround
July 7, 2009, 05:03 PM
I too could be considered an old timer and I got a few chuckles from the previous posts. I have to say this, even though I have a decent collection of firearms, I have never yet had to hide "one gun" from my wife. But I have made sure that over the years that she has received her share of gifts on all her special occasions and never once have I caught any static over my guns. Now my new red Corvette convertible is a different story! One of these days I just may teach her to drive a 6 speed. :D

KBT1911
July 7, 2009, 05:10 PM
I've never hid a gun from my wife either, but I have felt the wrath of an unapproved purchase from time to time.

rainbowbob
July 7, 2009, 05:22 PM
...what kind of fear does that to a person?

Fear of being unable to pay bills.

Not all of us have seemingly unlimited resources for guns, compensatory gifts for the wife, and a new Corvette!

Snarlingiron
July 7, 2009, 05:27 PM
Old Phart here too. I now have so many guns that when I bring home a new one, my wife asks me, "What pistol (or shotgun or rifle) is that?" I reply something like "Now look sweetheart, I can go through all the technical stuff, give you the model number and caliber number, etc...is that what you want?" ..."Never mind, have fun with it."

Life is good.

Jim Watson
July 7, 2009, 05:27 PM
I'm not young and I would just like to SEE a "revolving shotgun like the Chicago police use." Maybe they have some left over Street Sweepers.

bikerdoc
July 7, 2009, 05:36 PM
This old guy never hides nothing from my spouse. In fact she initiates more purchases than I do. We shoot together and she is a better shot.

Clean em when they are dirty or you are bored.

TEDDY
July 7, 2009, 07:09 PM
I am older than you youngsters,and I don't hide my guns, no use she can smell one coming in the door. and knows what they all look like.nothing escapes her eye. She has her own guns. Oh whats that, AR 15 I like that, that's mine. you ain't going to argue. Won't win any way. :rolleyes: :uhoh: :eek:

Walkalong
July 7, 2009, 07:12 PM
I have never yet had to hide "one gun" from my wife.Me either, although I don't check in when I buy one either. :D

I can only wish I had enough for 8 safes.

slabsides
July 7, 2009, 08:43 PM
Don't envy us old guys our large collections! They almost always include items like rheumatism, high blood pressure, dimming eyesight, ringing in the ears, and may also have high cholesterol, low libido, lousy digestion, badly fitted false teeth, and generally diminished energy to get up and 'go shootin'. In addition to the cost of ammo, club fees, and maintenance supplies, there's also health insurance premiums and copays on medications.
I don't think any sensible youngster would trade for the whole package.
I've never had to sneak a new gun into the house, at least. And I don't own a Corvette.

GodGuns&Guitars
July 7, 2009, 08:53 PM
What? Somebody say something?

jimmyraythomason
July 7, 2009, 10:41 PM
Darn! I had something very witty to say but I forgot what it was.

danprkr
July 7, 2009, 11:15 PM
I don't understand why anyone would want to hide that kind of thing, fear?, what kind of fear does that to a person?

Not fear on my part. Just a wish to avoid the eye rolling, and muttering about all of my sins from the time the earth's crust cooled until present. Even some sins I don't recall committing.

Mags
July 7, 2009, 11:18 PM
I dont know which thread title is funnier this one or the one about a bulge in your pants.

BHP FAN
July 7, 2009, 11:29 PM
This is why I buy a lot of six guns and lever actions...they all look alike to her.That way when she asks''is that a new gun?! I can say ''what, this old thing?'' just like she does me with shoes and purses.

Jerrschmitt
July 7, 2009, 11:33 PM
The secret is to have so many guns that the wife can't keep track. Also keep them in two or three diffrent places. (For security of course) then you can shuffel them around. Another great idea from a friend of mine is to keep your gun room so messy, that the wife won't go in there. Usually by the time my wife notices a new gun I can honestly say, "I've had that for years."

jimmyraythomason
July 7, 2009, 11:35 PM
The title? Well,I wasn't included in the conversation so technically I was eavesdropping. The two gentlemen were in their 70s which qualifies them as old most anywhere. They were men and "dude" is a slang term for male members of the species most places. So in actuallity, the title of the thread is pretty well descriptive of the events that occured. As to the bulge in my pants, well actually that is a flashlight.

rainbowbob
July 8, 2009, 04:02 AM
...when she asks''is that a new gun?! I can say ''what, this old thing?'' just like she does me with shoes and purses.

You're on to something there.

jim in Anchorage
July 8, 2009, 04:13 AM
Well this wife thing with a a new gun"But you gave it to me for Christmas-don't you remember?" Oh that would be mean.

Elvishead
July 8, 2009, 04:25 AM
MMCSRET

I am one of those old guys!!! I have never had to hide guns or gun money from my wife, I don't understand why anyone would want to hide that kind of thing, fear?, what kind of fear does that to a person?

Shame!

When you have 6 44magnums you don't need, and 18 1911s, it could be kind of shamefully embarrassing.

loop
July 8, 2009, 05:03 AM
Older folks have a wealth of knowledge to impart.

The first two old people I recall listening to were my grandfather and the old lady who lived across the street. The old lady was over 100 and no one listened to her anymore so when I would listen she would talk about her childhood. Because I listened I now can say I knew someone who watched the troops march off to the Civil War and who served dinner to Jesse and Frank James on their way to Northfield, Minn.

My grandfather told me stories about being a pro baseball player in the early 1900s and how he learned to shoot well enough to become a decorated marksman in WWI.

Another old man taught me how to catch trout - not fish for trout. I'm now the best trout fisherman I know, except for my son who is a bit faster than I am these days.

Yet another old man let slip that he won the pistol class at Camp Perry three times. He became my coach for three years and guess what - I'm one helluva pistol shot and I shoot a 1911.

And another builds me custom, hand-tooled holsters for every gun I buy just because I like to sit and talk.

Don't ever overlook an old person just because they are old.

Earlier tonight, at supper, I was talking to an old man. He decided to tell me about his unit being pinned down by a sniper in WWII. He spotted his position and saw open ground that would have to be covered to continue sniping at his unit. He perched an '03 Springfield on some rubble and waited. He saw a bush that seemed to move from time to time. At 500 yards, with open sights, he squeezed off a shot at the base of the bush and put a round through "That Nazi's helmet."

Because I listened to old folks I know people who were there at the Civil War, the Spanish-American War, WWI, WWII and beyond. My short lifetime spans a century and a half of knowledge. I would never have it had I not listened.

As to how many guns an old man has, we turned one room into a vault. It takes me three months to clean all the rifles. Thankfully, the wife keeps track of the inventory and cleaning rotation. I don't hide a darn thing from her, except my trade plans...

When I've made a trade she just updates the inventory list. She has given me one restriction - rifles take up too much space so I'm only allowed to buy/trade for handguns now. She's right.

MMCSRET
July 8, 2009, 10:18 AM
elvishead, I read what you said. Please explain how you are "embarrassed" by your own actions!!!!! Were you clinically insane and then regained your faculties?
If the possessions embarrass you why not rid yourself of them? People shed wives, cars and clothes for that very reason.

I'm finding myself failing to understand why anyone would buy a gun and than hide it from a spouse. Does that action fall into the same category as an illicit affair???????

loadedround
July 8, 2009, 11:07 AM
Guys, I have to fess up. I don't own a Corvette, nor have I ever owned one. That's the one thing my wife won't like me buy. Said that she doesn't want to be a widow with a bunch of guns before her time. I was just having some fun...and dreaming.

AirForceShooter
July 8, 2009, 11:15 AM
my wife tells me to buy guns.
See what 41 years together does.
She won't let me get the 'Vette.
Say's it plastic like a Glock.

AFS

Uncle Mike
July 8, 2009, 11:49 AM
Don't envy us old guys our large collections! They almost always include items like rheumatism, high blood pressure, dimming eyesight, ringing in the ears, and may also have high cholesterol, low libido, lousy digestion, badly fitted false teeth, and generally diminished energy to get up and 'go shootin'. In addition to the cost of ammo, club fees, and maintenance supplies, there's also health insurance premiums and copays on medications.
I don't think any sensible youngster would trade for the whole package.
I've never had to sneak a new gun into the house, at least. And I don't own a Corvette.

Aint that the truth....

I've never hid a gun from my wife either, but I have felt the wrath of an unapproved purchase from time to time.

I miss my left eye.....

After 30 years of marriage you learn that maybe a confession is better than a discovery.

It wasn't like that in the beginning, I thought it better to hide new acquisitions but over time have learned otherwise...

:D

jimmyraythomason
July 8, 2009, 02:04 PM
My wife reminded me of something I had forgotten about this conversation. "Old Dude" number 1 had 30 guns but kept them at his mother's house(I can only imagine her age) because his wife "doesn't like guns."

HarleyFixer
July 8, 2009, 02:28 PM
As to the bulge in my pants, well actually that is a flashlight



But just a little one.:neener:

jimmyraythomason
July 8, 2009, 02:53 PM
^^with dead batteries.

rainbowbob
July 8, 2009, 04:06 PM
I now can say I knew someone who watched the troops march off to the Civil War and who served dinner to Jesse and Frank James on their way to Northfield, Minn.

Interesting post, Loop. To young folks today, the Civil War must seem like ancient history that took place some time just after the era of King Arthur. And yet you, in your life-time, sat and talked with someone who was alive then!

As for Frank and Jesse...they must have eaten a lot of dinners - because it seems every old-timer knows somebody who gave them dinner on their way to some place or other. :rolleyes:

But even if that part was a yarn - or mistaken identity...it might have happened - and there is truth to be learned even from the tall tales.

All you youngsters need to go find an old person and take the time to listen to their stories - maybe even set up a video camera and record them. Not because you're doing them a favor - but because they will be doing you a favor.

I wish to heck I had recorded my trumpet-playing Grandfather talking about the vaudeville tour he took with Babe Ruth in the winter he was traded to the Yankees. I've got a photo of the band posing with a 24-year-old Babe and his new bride. My Grandfather also took his new bride on that tour for their "honeymoon" - and Grandma had to leave early when she got pregnant.

Sorry for the thread-jack...but us old-timers do drift off some times.

2nd 41
July 8, 2009, 06:27 PM
I was handling my newly acquired BHP in Silver chrome with the gold trigger....she looks at and says....That's your favorite gun isn't it?
I guess all guns look the same. I guess I have 1 gun times X.
I'm speechless.

harrygunner
July 8, 2009, 07:37 PM
Sometimes, it stresses me, the amount of information being lost over the generations. When I think of the practical things my grand parents knew, that my parents ignored, leaving me clueless. I think we should follow our elders with voice recorders to capture their wisdom.

I passed a hundred year old rifle I was given as a teen to one of my children along with some stories I was told by "great-grand" and "grand" relatives.

Also, I used to live across the street from a woman in her late eighties. Her stories were equivalent to the "Little House on the Prairie". Independent woman. Proud gun owner. One time coming out of my house, I saw her on the ground, under her car, fixing a muffler. :eek:

raveneap
July 8, 2009, 07:56 PM
Well, I'm almost 71 and will have been married 40 years this October. Never hid a gun purchase from my wife; in fact she's bought me a couple. I don't shoot too much these days but look at them in the safe and take 'em out, clean and go over them with a rag every now and again. :) Son's got a range in his back yard and every once in a while I'll still go out shooting with him.

raveneap
July 8, 2009, 08:00 PM
harrygunner >> ..Sometimes, it stresses me, the amount of information being lost over the generations. When I think of the practical things my grand parents knew, that my parents ignored, leaving me clueless. I think we should follow our elders with voice recorders to capture their wisdom. .. <<

My grandfather was in his 90s when he died back in the 60's. I remember him telling me tales of no air planes, no cars, no TV, etc. etc. How often I've wished I did just that, sit down with him and a tape recorder and recorded some of the history that he'd lived.

MMCSRET
July 8, 2009, 10:36 PM
My wifes aunt was 89 when her nephew found her up on the roof of her house shoveling the snow off. North central Nebraska, you know!!!! Just a couple of years ago. I remember haying with my grandfather and his crew, all done with horses, he had 21 teams at the time, early 50s, a team was worked only a half day and changed at lunch. Always a 22 rifle somewhere around the stackyard.

Elvishead
July 9, 2009, 03:34 AM
MMCSRET

elvishead, I read what you said. Please explain how you are "embarrassed" by your own actions!!!!! Were you clinically insane and then regained your faculties?
If the possessions embarrass you why not rid yourself of them? People shed wives, cars and clothes for that very reason.

I'm finding myself failing to understand why anyone would buy a gun and than hide it from a spouse. Does that action fall into the same category as an illicit affair???????

The word obsession, I'd be ashamed of being so obsessed on having so much of one thing, that is totally obsession.

loop
July 9, 2009, 06:12 AM
rainbowbob,

I feel a bit like my grandpa. He said "I've lived in a wonderful age." He'd seen the world go from horses and railroads to cars and jet planes and from lanterns to electric lights, ovens and refrigerators.

Whether the old lady really served dinner to the James brothers or not doesn't really matter. She did live in the right place and it was custom at that time for travelers to pay farmers and ranchers for a meal.

My ancestors settled most of Northern Minnesota. There is even a book about them floating around somewhere in the house. She knew a lot of them. She also recalled the panic and fear of the Sioux uprising.

I just loved listening to old folks tell their tales. I still do, but it is harder to find someone I call "old" anymore.

Listening is a talent I was born with. I ended up spending almost all of my adult life as a reporter/editor.

Life is kind of a funny thing. The wife was telling the neighbor lady about some of the things I've done in 40 years of reporting and the neighbor was looking at me kind of funny - then we showed her pictures.

She told the neighbor I knew Harry Truman, Richard Nixon and had numerous conversations with Ronald Reagan and her eyebrows raided. Everyone in Independence, Mo., knew Harry. He ran the local men's clothing store.

Nixon, my mom's best friend worked for him. He was just a guy whose politics I did not like, but who sat down to dinner same as the rest of us. Reagan, I was a sports writer and had a story about him covering a sporting event on the radio. He seemed very happy to have a non-political conversation. We spoke a few times. The first time we spoke he didn't recall the event, but encouraged me to call back because covering sports was a part of his life he really enjoyed.

Celebrities - heck, doesn't matter. I know Donald Trump, Paul McCartney and a host of others. My personal favorite was Lee Marvin. He loved to listen. He'd goad you into talking so he could learn more about you. The man had a big heart. He always wanted you to feel better when he left.

The wife says I need to write about my own life now. Maybe she's right. If I don't write it then it will just go away, like so many other great stories. I've got a couple good ones. Charlie Sampson saved my life once by kicking a bull in the hindquarters after I'd been thrown.

I knew Lance Armstrong when he was 16. I first talked to Tiger Woods when he was about the same age and I met Keri Strugg when she was 8 (her parents are almost as annoying as her voice).

Old men have some great stories. Funny thing is that I'm still listening. There is nothing better than hearing that story from the guy who was there.

I was taught to respect my elders. The lesson wasn't lost.

bikerdoc
July 9, 2009, 07:09 AM
Loop and Rainbowbob

I Would be honored to be incuded in your circle. At 60 I have great stories to tell about greatgrandpa and grandpa. had And dad at 90 has some good stuff.
Stories of WW1, WW2, the depression, are facinating
Me, My grandkids want to know about 50' rock and roll, John Kennedy, the turmoil of the 60;s and my experiences in Viet Nam.
Ya, I will talk to anyone that will listen.
And we should write it down or it will be lost!

chuckusaret
July 9, 2009, 07:56 AM
See what 41 years together does.
She won't let me get the 'Vette.
Say's it plastic like a Glock.

We must be married to sisters, my wife of 49 years said the same thing.... I did have a 71 Vette though for 26 years, but my son looks a lot better in it, and he appreciates the sound of the side pipes.

thorazine
July 9, 2009, 04:26 PM
Sometimes I wish I could tune everyone out.

Example from about four months ago at a restaurant...


"I am thinking about getting a glock" mentions a twenty or thirty something year old female.

Middle aged man at her table responded "I wouldn't -- if you drop it -- the porcelain will break and you'll have to send it in for repair."

(sigh)

Marve
July 9, 2009, 05:52 PM
Old dudes in Alabama "get it" when it comes to guns. :)

Deltaboy
July 9, 2009, 06:03 PM
All my family old timers are gone now but I have a mind full of memories. I do church services in nursing homes and I have learned so much from them. I meet a Pearl Harbor Vet yesterday at the Water Dept.

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