Thoughts on the Ruger LCR???


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Lemon10
July 8, 2009, 01:48 PM
Read a article the other day...looks interesting and worthy of consideration...

Yes or no on a purchase?!?!

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mnrivrat
July 8, 2009, 02:12 PM
I think there are to few examples floating around in buyers hands to formulate much of an opinion yet.

I have yet to see one - by the time I do I am hoping they are not already on a Ruger recall . :D

mclark202
July 8, 2009, 02:25 PM
Just held my first one yesterday. I wasn't impressed, and I was trying to be. For a new gun, the area around the cylinder release was already chipping/peeling off, exposing bright metal behind it. The cylinder also seemed sloppy and had a bunch of play. This could just be a single example, but it didn't get me wanting it. It just felt cheap.

It was also $479!

Drail
July 8, 2009, 02:33 PM
An dumb marketing experiment..."let's make a polymer revolver just because we CAN and we'll be the first!" OK.

ArmedBear
July 8, 2009, 02:37 PM
An dumb marketing experiment..."let's make a polymer revolver just because we CAN and we'll be the first!" OK.

If it were $300, I'd grab one as a pocket gun. It would be a marketing revolution, to be honest.

For $479? I'll go with tried and true (and I'm a sucker for nice wood grips, which are readily available for S&W snubbies).

Word is, the Ruger trigger is really nice, though, and the grip ergos have taken lessons from, and improved upon, the existing snubbies.

cyclopsshooter
July 8, 2009, 02:38 PM
a guy i work with bought one, we went back into the range and fired 5 rounds each- the recoil was suprisingly manageable and the sight alignment between shots was quick

mljdeckard
July 8, 2009, 02:46 PM
I'm not sold. If the idea is to make it lighter, you can already get a wide variety of light alloy and titanium guns that will beat you up so bad you don't want to shoot them anymore.

cyclopsshooter
July 8, 2009, 02:49 PM
i found it more managable that the typical lightweights- as i understand it the frame and grip have been designed to absorb much of the recoil rather than your hand-

ArmedBear
July 8, 2009, 02:56 PM
Is the grip larger than a standard J-frame "boot grip"? The ones I've seen look fatter and longer, but the eyes can be tricked.

I pocket carry, so there's a necessary tradeoff between the ideal grip for shooting, and the ideal grip for carrying the thing.

cyclopsshooter
July 8, 2009, 02:59 PM
i just looked in the case and it is aproximately the same- offering grip grooves for middle and ring fingers

Madcap_Magician
July 8, 2009, 03:03 PM
I think the selling points were the cam system for the trigger, which apparently is supposed to make the trigger pull a lot smoother, and the grip, which is a tad higher than on a J-frame. Recoil is supposed to be lighter, too. The sights are also bigger. Those are valid selling points for me, since two of the key weaknesses of J-frames are their stiff recoil and heavy trigger pull. Bigger sights might help accuracy some, too.

Disclaimer: I do not own and have not fired the LCR.

ArmedBear
July 8, 2009, 03:39 PM
I'm just not sure what's so bad about the J-frame trigger pull.

My 642 (DAO like the LCR) has a perfectly acceptable trigger pull. I can shoot accurately with it; I've been pleasantly surprised.

Is it a PC L-frame? No. But it works fine.

If the LCR is better, that's great. However, I think the "terrible" trigger on a DAO J-frame is a made-up problem. I've felt some old ones taht were indeed terrible. Current production, though, works fine for me.

buckeye8
July 8, 2009, 03:48 PM
At my local shop, the LCP's fly off the shelves. The LCR's, on the other hand, seem to sit on the shelves a while, and they're only $429 here. I held one just for the heck of it, but wasn't overly impressed.

jhco
July 8, 2009, 04:07 PM
get a j frame
I didn't like the lcr when I checked it out at tha shot show

m4jockey
July 8, 2009, 04:42 PM
I have one, now. I put several boxes through it and I like it very much. It is light, concealable and fit and finish is good. Recoil is not bad and trigger pull is real smooth and easy, although it has a kind of click at the end of the stroke if you stop. It can actually be pulled back to that point and then fired similar to a single action. I only experienced that when I pulled the trigger very slow. I bought it for wifey; I hope she likes it more than the vacuum I got her for Mother's Day. :rolleyes:

Racinbob
July 8, 2009, 07:14 PM
I'll chime in with others here. My 442 has a great trigger. Not like my 66 but, in my opinion, perfect for the intended use. The LCR I handled at the shot show had an awful trigger. Price it lower and a deal. Current price, no way. By the way, I love Rugers but the LCR just isn't one of them.

The_Shootist
July 9, 2009, 12:08 AM
Personally I consider it ugly - not that thats a truly valid reason not to go with it. But some of the posts I've seen on the snubbie forum on Glocktalk indicate its building up a following.

Its easy to carry and as accurate as you are.

cyclopsshooter
July 9, 2009, 12:16 AM
the over milled cylinder is reminiscent of cheap black powder kit guns of the 70s... im kinda curious if that has anything to do with old timers thinking its ugly? (qualification: i don't think its that attractive myself and im sure there are youngsters out that think its ugly too)

just a mental fart in the wind :p

powellsanmiguel
July 9, 2009, 07:54 PM
I got one about a month ago. It is a great gun. Mine has the Crimson Trace sights, which helped me teach my wife trigger control, and probably are handy in low light. It shoots 2-3" groups at thirty feet off hand and varies about three inches vertically with standard and +p rounds. Easy to carry, pleasant to shoot with standard loads; not as pleasant with +p, but what the heck, that is expected. My wife loves it too, and we shoot every three days or so.

Bush Pilot
July 9, 2009, 08:09 PM
I purchased one Monday and shot it for the first time Wednesday. It's an interesting concept and I figured if after shooting the gun I could easily sell it if I didn't like it. I was shooting a mild load and the recoil was no worse than a J frame. Will probably keep the gun for the time being, I need to give it a fair workout. BTW, paid 399.00 with no CT.

earlthegoat2
July 9, 2009, 08:14 PM
I have only handled one and it did not feel that great. It seemed too light to me even compared to Airweights. For my money, get a 642/442, or better yet a Colt Cobra/Agent.

MCgunner
July 9, 2009, 08:29 PM
I'd buy one just because everyone's disin' it. But, then, I've got a great shootin' little Taurus 85UL for that and it really WAS a bargain. :D

I mean, really, it's just another DA .38 snub. I mean, yeah, I welcome another, but for me, a plastic frame does not an innovation make. Can you change grips on it or is it like a Glock, only slip grips need apply?

BlayGlock
July 9, 2009, 09:03 PM
I am a huge fan of j frames, and have a few of different one both Smith and Taurus. I have shot an LCR and compared it to my Smith 638. It shot really nice and had a better trigger than the Smith (and the Smith is good). I think that if I did not already have the ones that I do I would go ahead and buy one. To me, it was a wash beteween the two. If you can find a Taurus 85 with a good trigger you will save yourself some money and have a snub that is just as good IMO.

roc1
July 9, 2009, 09:06 PM
I got the SP101 instead.It is heavy but a great feeling gun.I like it because it reminds me of my GP100 and Super Redhawk.I love those two. I will try it this weekend.The LCr looks ok but the trigger guard looks way to big for the gun.It turned me off.
roc1

MCgunner
July 9, 2009, 09:11 PM
I love those two. I will try it this weekend.The LCr looks ok but the trigger guard looks way to big for the gun.

That is NOT a bad thing, especially up north in the winter. Think about it.

ir3e971
July 9, 2009, 10:02 PM
I held one the other day. It felt very good in the hand, and the trigger was very smooth. If I did not have a J Frame already, I would buy one for CCW. Don't need another pistol like this, but I think it has a great deal of potential.

However, It will offend purists because of unusual looks, construction, and materials. I prefer a steel gun myself, but make an exception for concealed carry. I learned to live with aluminum in a 642, I cant see how a leap to polymer is that big a jump.

roc1
July 9, 2009, 10:28 PM
I understand the gloved hand thing.I just thought it was excessive the SP101 is not any where near that large.I am sure it will work great though.Just a thought.
roc1

Girodin
July 10, 2009, 02:12 AM
I paid $380 for my LCR. I like it. The trigger pull is superior to other snubs I have fired. I do not find recoil objectionable. The little ruger points very naturally for me. The only gun that is in the same league for me when it comes to naturally pointing well is a 1911 and the LCR might be better. That is one of the reasons I like it so much. It may not work that well for everyone but it does for me.

I do not like how loud the rattle of the transfer bar is. It really bugs me. I honestly thought something was broken on the gun at first. It was much louder than I had ever heard on any revolver. Looks are in the eye of the beholder and so debating a matter of opinion is a waste of time. Time will tell how durable they are. Smiths are more proven and I wouldn't pay more for an LCR than a smith for that reason. That said I think it was a good buy at $380 and if it proves durable it could eclipse the smith in my mind.

Pack
July 10, 2009, 04:22 AM
I read two gun mags, Guns & Ammo and Gun Tests.

I've long considered G&A to be in the tank for Ruger, so I didn't pay the hype surrounding their cover story on it a while back much mind.

I do, however, tend to give weight to a good bit of what Gun Tests says, and in their latest issue they preferred the LCR to the Smith 442.

This doesn't mean I conclusively agree with them, and I'll frankly probably buy a model 60 or 649 anyway, but now I'm at least going to handle and fire an LCR before I do so.

ArmedBear
July 10, 2009, 10:54 AM
they preferred the LCR to the Smith 442

By a hair, really.

I think it's pretty safe to say that the LCR is a good gun, though, based on their eval. For $380, I'd have been really tempted. Not sure why, but I haven't seen any around here for prices lower than J-frames, which I already know I like.

Whether I would choose one or the other is probably personal preference. I'd be reluctant to buy a gun because of the grip on it. That's the easiest thing to swap out (at least if you buy something really common like a J-frame). But I understand that Gun Tests has to evaluate guns as they are shipped, to be fair and honest about them.

I have zero complaints about the 642, either carrying it or shooting it. A few days ago, I saw a used .357 Model 60 in the store in excellent condition, for $450. I bought it, since my wife's CWL finally came, and the 642 was about the only concealable gun we had unless you count a .22LR NAA Mini. Won't need to look at snubbies any more for a while.:)

I'm not sure about the plastic frame and recoil. I'm sure it absorbs recoil better than a stiff aluminum alloy frame, but it would have to do so by flexing. One plus about the Airweight: it shoots very tight groups, as long as you can hang onto it.

C-grunt
July 11, 2009, 04:58 AM
Ive handled one and was impressed with the trigger pull. The thing is ugly as sin though. I would consider it if the price was good.

gmh1013
July 11, 2009, 10:23 AM
I shot 5 rounds out of one at a range.....he was using plain .38's so it was "easy" to shoot vs. the weight....my wife could not shoot it even though it had .38's........
+P would hurt.
I have SP101 snub. If they come down to the sub-400 range like 375.....maybe I would buy one.

Dogbite
July 11, 2009, 04:11 PM
I carry a Smith J-frame regularly--have for years. Works wonderful, and has enough horsepower to change someones channel.

Guillermo
July 11, 2009, 04:26 PM
The people that own them seem to love them. Personally my Smith 36 is lighter than I shoot well. The LCR is way too light for me to shoot effectively

Doug S
July 11, 2009, 06:47 PM
A local shop has a couple, and I have to say they look a lot better in person. Still, I'd be hesitant to buy one until it's been around for a while.

Bush Pilot
July 12, 2009, 12:06 AM
Don't worry, they'd fix it under the yet to be announced recall, I'm expecting that letter anytime LOL

Mastifflover
July 12, 2009, 09:17 AM
When I went looking for a .38 to replace my Kel-tec P3AT I had 2 options in mind, a Taurus 85 UL and a Smith 642. Before you bash Taurus I also own a Taurus 4" 66 that has a sweet trigger and would outshoot the Smith 686 that I carried working law enforcement any day of the week so I didn't have any qualms about buying a Taurus product. I had a 642 about 10 years ago that I sold to my dad and he still has it.

Looked at the Taurus 85 first, gritty hard trigger nothing like my 66. Then I looked at the 642, yep same smooth but very hard to pull trigger that I remember so I resigned myself to the fact that if your going to carry a snubby double action only .38 you have to deal with a crappy trigger that you hope will smooth out with extended use. Then the guy behind the counter asked me if I had seen the LCR. I had watched the video and read some reviews but God the thing was ugly. He opened the cylinder and handed the ugly little monster to me. My first impression was this thing is pretty darned light. My second impression was it's not quite so ugly in person. I never did like the humpback look but it really doesn't look like an ugly flat paddle like the shrouded hammer Smith's do. Then I pulled the trigger to test it and I wouldn't give the gun back. I'm not exaggerating when I tell you that the trigger on the LCR feels like a full size DA revolver that has had some work done to it.

My 642 had a pretty good snap to it when firing +p loads through it but not really punishing until you put about 30 rounds through it. The Kel-tec was painful to shoot because the trigger guard had an annoying habit of slamming into my trigger finger every time. My girlfriend downright refused to shoot it for the same reason. I don't know if it is the polymer frame or the cushy Hogue tamer grip on the gun but for a 13 oz. .38 the LCR is downright pleasant to shoot. We burned through a box of standard .38 and a box of +p loads and would have continued shooting if I had brought more ammo with me. I could hit a pop can at 25 yards 80% of the time, something that I could never do with my 642.

Something I think that gets overlooked sometimes when talking about snubbys is how well they point. While the LCR has better sights than the 642 if I ever had to use it in an emergency I doubt the sights would even come into play. Everybody's hands are different but the LCR points for me naturally better than any other gun I own. I'm no expert on grip angle but Ruger seems to have it right with this gun.

My only complaint about the LCR is that while the Hogue grip is great for shooting at the range, it is a little thick for pocket carry which is where this little revolver belongs. I'm sure that the aftermarket will take care of this issue further down the road.

Sorry for the long post but getting a little tired of the "critics" of the LCR that are bashing the revolver that have never seen one in person let alone handled one. :rolleyes:

ranger7
July 12, 2009, 05:01 PM
I like J frames alot. I really didn't think I'd find anything as good or better in that type of gun. I have Models 36 & 60, two 642s, a 442 and carry at least one of them most of the time.

A local dealer had a new LCR that sat on his shelf for a few weeks. I fondled the LCR a few times but wasn't convinced. Because I was a frequent customer, he lowered his asking price and I bit. I really liked it and put several hundred rounds through it in a few weeks. I measured the trigger pull on the LCR vs. the 442. The LCR averaged 9.25 lbs vs. 11.75 for the 442. The normal J frame trigger pull was never a problem for me but this got me thinking.

My wife has always had very weak hands. She has a lot of trouble with the double action trigger pull on most revolvers. Single action she has difficulty with the hammer (and single action is slow for self-defense.) Semi-autos give her problems pulling the slide back. :mad:

I had her dry fire the LCR. Click, click, click - no problem at all. Guess I'm going to lose my new LCR. I went to the dealer and put another LCR on order. :) Guess we'll hold on to her Taurus 856 in 32 Mag until she gets some range time with the LCR. I may even sell one of my no-lock 642s.

grendelbane
July 12, 2009, 07:59 PM
I like the LCR. The lightweight J-frames are nice, but they just seem to be a tad bit more painful with +ps than the Ruger.

The trigger is great. I like the way the whole gun handles.

It is the first gun that I have ever bought that I didn't see anything on that needed changing.

It rides in a pocket quite nicely, too.

LightningJoe
July 13, 2009, 05:58 PM
Sounds like a solution looking for a problem, but if it sells guns, it has a reason to exist. Very goofy-looking weapon, though.

Artic
July 13, 2009, 06:11 PM
I'm interested in them but, might wait awhile. Maybe the prices
will come down some later?

DRM
July 15, 2009, 01:34 AM
Now that I've bought one, I'm sure they will!

hhb
July 15, 2009, 01:45 PM
Reports on the Ruger forum that the LCR is experiencing problems with the hot gasses burning holes through the frame near the forcing cone, one with as little of 150 rounds down range. Is another Ruger recall in the wind?

ArmedBear
July 15, 2009, 01:51 PM
Can't say and have no idea if what hhb has seen reported is accurate.

However, this is an example of why I don't ever feel the need to be the first on the block to own a totally new product, of a completely new design, made of materials with which the manufacturer has no real experience.

I can wait a year and let others spend THEIR money to be guinea pigs.:)

jamstutz
July 15, 2009, 02:46 PM
Reports on the Ruger forum that the LCR is experiencing problems with the hot gasses burning holes through the frame near the forcing cone, one with as little of 150 rounds down range. Is another Ruger recall in the wind?
Seems to be an isolated case. There have been many, many LCRs (including mine) that have had far more rounds through them than this with no problems at all. Ruger says they tested several LCRs beyond 10k rounds with no wear or alignment issues before the gun was released for sale. I don't see this as leading to a recall.

texas bulldog
July 15, 2009, 05:35 PM
i have an LCP and an SP101, and i like them both. i'm definitely not anti-ruger by any means. however, i have to say that the LCP just doesn't appeal to me much. between the price and the looks, i'll take a pass. also...i guess i just like my snubbies a bit heavier, though i'm sure that puts me in the minority.

Nairbedaw
July 15, 2009, 09:02 PM
IMO its an ugly piece of hardware. And its composite, not my personal favorite of mine in a firearm. For roughly the same price Ide rather get me ANOTHER SP101. The LCR in my opinion is really too lightweight (for my personal tastes), has a big trigger guard. Do yourself a favor if youre going Ruger, and get you a STEEL revolver like the SP101.

ranger7
July 15, 2009, 11:26 PM
I've shown my LCR to about 10 gun owners in the last two weeks. They've looked at it carefully, handled it, and (even with my suggestion that some people find the LCR ugly) they've all said they like it. If they get a chance to shoot it, I'd bet they will like it even more. Between the ergonomics of the grip and the improved trigger and recoil control (vs. an Airweight J frame), I find it very comfortable to shoot.

I plan on taking one of my pre-lock S&W 642s and an S&W M 36 to a dealer for consignment sale tomorrow. I'll probably continue to carry a 442 at least part of the time until Don Hume makes the holster I want for the LCR.

snooperman
July 18, 2009, 09:39 AM
I don't have a Ruger LCR and probably wont buy one. My brother bought one and I have shot it too. I personally think it to light for me , as I like steel and will not buy anthing else. However, I remember well, many years ago about all the disparaging remarks about the Glock pistol, when it came on the scene. IT WAS UGLY, PLASTIC, WONT HOLD UP ETC. But Glock proved them all wrong. Only time will tell if this new design by Ruger wil be Emulated by others, like Glock, and will it be successful in the end. I do not own a Glock either, but that in no way diminishes the fact that they are excellent firearms. My 2 cents. Sincerely Snooperman

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