[omega5]

Anyone here have any experience with a Double Bbl Rifle. The one I'm considering (on a Civil Servants salary) is the EAA IZHMP221 in a .308. I have to admit that I have always had a love for this type gun but have never owned or shot one. Here is a pic of one. At MSRP of $629, it very well may be my Christmas gift if I can find one;)

[goalie]

I have used a double .470 NE. I would question what the benefit of having a caliber like .308 in a double rifle would be? IMO (and that of many others) the double's advantage is a very quick follow up shot on dangerous game in close quarters. .308 is not exactly what I would use for any traditional dangerous game, as it shoots a pretty light bullet. Personally, for anything big I have a .375 H&H, as I could not afford the cost associated with my friend's Krieghoff.

If you are looking for something fun to shoot that looks pretty cool, I would say go for it. Be aware, however, that those tubes are not regulated. IIRC, they have some sort of adjustment screw that allows you to regulate them yourself. I have no idea how reliable such a set-up is. The precise regulation of the two tubes is what makes a fine double cost so darn much in the first place.

[Keith]

Baikal makes .45/70 inserts for their IZH 43 (Bounty Hunter) shotguns - actually, the shotgun is made by Baikal and Tanfoglio makes the inserts and both items are distributed by EAA...
Anyway, it's really quite a nice set-up! The shotguns themselves are a very nice item (I own two!) and sell for about $200. The inserts go for $140 each, so you're looking at $480 for the entire package.

You have to regulate the inserts yourself, but once adjusted you can just take them in and out without having to re-regulate them. So, you can use it as a double shotgun or double rifle, OR, with one barrel of each...
The inserts come with an Express Sight that needs to be drilled and tapped into the barrel.

The poor mans double rifle! And a .45/70 qualifies as a dangerous game rifle, I'd think!

These Baikal shotguns are a real bargain as far as I'm concerned (with or without the .45/70 inserts). Nice wood, faux engraving, tight - nice!


Keith

[BigG]

I couldn't get your picture to come up, but if it's an over under, I have the very rifle. It's a Baikal, in 308 and it has a jackscrew arrangement under the forend to regulate the bbls. There's a thread about it here somewhere... Here is a picture of my rifle.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=559977

What is so doggone nice about these is, as Keith noted, the Baikals are bulletproof; tight, strong, accurate, and a big bargain for the money. Mine regulated up real nice with both bbls making one group with the admittedly rudimentary iron sights. One of the niceties of a double rifle is the balance; it comes up like a shotgun, all the weight between your hands and the sights are aligned when the butt settles into your shoulder. Just squeeze one off, your sights are already on target! :D The .308 will make a heck of a deer rifle and none of your buddies will have one like yours.

[BigG]

Here is the thread I mentioned about my Baikal. Hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine!

Double Rifle (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22340&highlight=Baikal+AND+rifle)

[Keith]

The rifle Omega is talking about is a side by side. It has to be a side by side or you can't pretend you're stalking Cape Buffalo with a Holland and Holland!

Keith

[Keith]

Just googled around and found a link for "Marksman's Mart" which carries a selection of these Baikal side by sides in different calibers.

They sell one in .45/70 - and 308, 30-06, 270, 223, 762x39!

And the price is only $539!

That's a damned nice price and I know Baikal makes a good product. Now if I can convince the wife that I need a new rifle....


http://www.marksmansmart.com/prodDescription.asp?catID=22&subCatID=442&prodID=60838

[omega5]

Hey guys, Some how, I lost this post. The one I want is the side by side. It's about the only type of weapon I don't have, the double rifle. My concern was the reliability of the "jack screw". If it would hold up or work lose. As for hunting cape buffalo, I don't hunt anything with four legs anymore. I just love to shoot and I don't have $10 to 30,000 to spend on a double rifle that is just something for me to play with.

BigG. How the the Jack Screw hold up on your o/u? Any problems with it?

[BigG]

Thanks for asking. The jackscrew has held up great. About 500 rounds of military surplus 308 and the thing has stayed regulated. Like I said before, the Baikals are bulletproof. :D

[omega5]

Thanks BigG. I'm looking at getting one of these sometime this year if things work out right. Wife is laid off and the daughter in college makes money real tight.