Help with Winchester Model 94 re-assembly


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kmullins
July 9, 2009, 02:31 PM
Hello all. Got my Model 94 completely stripped down and have been trying to get it back together. Everthing seems to be working good except for the trigger group. I have it completely disassembled and can't get it back together so that when you pull back the hammer it cocks back. It just is free moving right now, don't what I'm doing wrong. Any help would be appreciated.

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Cosmoline
July 9, 2009, 02:38 PM
A picture of the group as you've tried to reassemble it would be enormously helpful.

rcmodel
July 9, 2009, 02:46 PM
Why is it stripped completely down?
Did it break?

Otherwise there is no real good reason to take a 94 apart that far if you don't know how to put it back together.

Anyway, try following this:
http://www.castbullet.com/misc/tdown.htm

rc

kmullins
July 9, 2009, 03:29 PM
Will get a picture later, thanks.

Castbullet tutorial doesn't show anything about trigger guard disassembly and I've already gone through Gun Digest Book of Disassembly.

It hadn't been cleaned in oh 20 or so years so I thought a thorough cleaning would be in order. And I was right, never seen grime like that.

praharin
July 9, 2009, 04:45 PM
Next time just hose it out with WD-40. Thats how I clean just about everything that I don't want to take apart.

You know, in 2029, when it needs it again ;)

Sorry I'm not more helpful in getting it back together again. I will also add: Don't be afraid to take it to a good gunsmith if you can't get it back together. I had to do it with a 1300 several years ago. That's when I used the WD-40 trick ;)

If you are worried about saving face, take it to a smith a few town over :)

Vern Humphrey
July 9, 2009, 05:43 PM
Castbullet tutorial doesn't show anything about trigger guard disassembly and I've already gone through Gun Digest Book of Disassembly.
I'm not sure what you mean about "trigger guard disassembly." The trigger guard on a Model 94 is simply a piece of steel integral with the loop.

If you look at the last disassembly picture in the Castbullet tutorial, you see the loop and associated parts in their proper relationship.

But you say:
I have it completely disassembled and can't get it back together so that when you pull back the hammer it cocks back.

This tells me that the trigger and hammer assembly may be the culprit. Look at the trigger assembly in the last disassembly picture. Particularly note the relationship between the mainspring guide and the rest of the assembly. Note that the curve of the guide is open part up.

kmullins
July 9, 2009, 06:56 PM
I'm not sure what you mean about "trigger guard disassembly." The trigger guard on a Model 94 is simply a piece of steel integral with the loop.

If you look at the last disassembly picture in the Castbullet tutorial, you see the loop and associated parts in their proper relationship.

My mistake, meant to say trigger group assembly.

This tells me that the trigger and hammer assembly may be the culprit. Look at the trigger assembly in the last disassembly picture. Particularly note the relationship between the mainspring guide and the rest of the assembly. Note that the curve of the guide is open part up.

I'm pretty sure I got the mainspring guide in the right position, the part that I think is the problem is the small almost "wedge" shaped piece that goes in with the same pin that hold holds the trigger shoe togther. I'm waiting for my camera to charge so I can get a picture.

kmullins
July 10, 2009, 01:05 PM
Here is the picture of the trigger group completely disassembled. I have marked the piece that I am having trouble with (so I think) - http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/xigottheedgex/DSC01553-1.jpg

rcmodel
July 10, 2009, 01:16 PM
The part circled is the sear.
It goes on the right side of the trigger and is operated by the same spring still in the tang that operates the trigger safety bar, also apparently still in the tang.

Put the back end of the sear arm under the spring, and then pin the trigger / sear assembly in place.

rc

Cosmoline
July 10, 2009, 01:20 PM
It should dovetail with the trigger thusly (53 & 52)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/tradja/guns/Win94EXView.gif

rcmodel
July 10, 2009, 02:08 PM
You have a later coil-spring rifle and your sear spring will be wire, not a flat spring as shown in the schematic.

It all works the same though.

Make absolutely sure your trigger safety bar operates when you get it together.

rc

kmullins
July 10, 2009, 07:00 PM
Got it back together. Thanks again everyone, seems to be working great.

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