Veggie Fiber wads...


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Ratdog68
July 13, 2009, 12:33 PM
So... last fall, I was snagging up stuff (BP related) that was on sale/clearance. One of the things I grabbed was a bag of veggie fiber wads, cut in .45. They're about the thickenss of milk carton material. I'm thinkin' they might work nicely for chain fire prevention on my wheel guns... loaded after the ball is seated. I'm thinkin' that since I carry "Bore Butter" in my possibles bag... a smear of it on 'em too. Soundin' reasonable ?

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Das Jaeger
July 13, 2009, 01:14 PM
like a lot of work , hee hee hee :D

Here's what I do .
Moly based non petro grease over ball , done , good bye , shoot kill , put in freezer .
Fibre wads, wonder wads , do NOTHING to ease fouling on the arbor, or anywhere else except barrel . Great for speed in CASS but worthless on anti fouling . For "Chainfires" they are ok though , but my grease is top notch , doesn't harden , doesn't soften , Aircraft grade stuff . I get it for free , Dads in the Bussiness .
Any good bearing grease that tis moly based non petro will work well too .
Oh its too messy I hear ? Oh , get out of the sport and buy a cartridge gun is what I would say to that . :D This aint a sport for the neet anwyay . Half the fun is the smoke , fire , and goo . :D I love this sport so much , I use the stuff for toothpaste and hair cream by golly . :neener:
I use a mini grease gun , hand held variety , never touch the grease . :D
Proper fitting balls is the key and tight fitting caps are the other key to no chain fires anyway . Do you realy think in battel they had time to under card a ball in a revolver or smear grease over , ha , not likely . :D

Sincerely, Das Jaeger who loves his grease :D Wheres my toothbrsuh ! :what:

fineredmist
July 13, 2009, 01:15 PM
Veggie fiber wads are usually use in BP rifle rounds and loaded under the bullet. If you bore butter on top of your pistol rounds you will not have a chain fire on that end, however it is always possible to chain fire on the cap end. It is remote but possible so butter up the breach and use the proper size caps and you have done all you can do.

BHP FAN
July 13, 2009, 01:33 PM
I use the fiber wads in my BP .45-70 cartridges to keep the lube from migrating into the powder on hot days.

arcticap
July 13, 2009, 01:34 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=101475&stc=1&d=1247502977


There's different types of fiber wad material and some are stiff and may crack apart easier than others.

The thin, stiff fiber wads have been more commonly described as being placed under the ball allowing for more room for heavier powder charges when shooting conical bullets.
But inflexible fiber wads reportedly can crack if compressed too heavily under the ball.
These particular wads from Cabela's are extremely flexible and tough, and it's not possible for them to crack since I can't even tear one of them apart by hand.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=101473&stc=1&d=1247502786

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=101474&stc=1&d=1247502829

I estimate that they're about twice as thick as juice carton wax board material but not quite as stiff.
I don't recall anyone ever reporting about using the inflexible ones over the ball in any previous discussions of them here which is going back several years now. But it would be interesting to hear how these work if loaded that way.

Would you describe the kind of fiber wads that you have as being flexible or inflexible?
Can you tear or crack them apart?

Ratdog68
July 13, 2009, 01:44 PM
Arcticap... they are almost identical to the hard "over powder wads" by Cabela's you have pictured. I'll look at the package this evening... LOL could even be a re-package job of those. I'll letcha know whether they're easily torn or cracked when I eyeball 'em a little closer tonight. Thanks.

Ratdog68
July 13, 2009, 01:46 PM
I use the fiber wads in my BP .45-70 cartridges to keep the lube from migrating into the powder on hot days.
Otay... sort of a "gas check" then, huh? I'll find a use for 'em. M'be they'll work for things like loading .45LC shells, or even some .44's for the Super BlackHawk if I dabble with some BP loads for 'em.

Das Jaeger
July 13, 2009, 03:52 PM
Some Milk , some brown sugar , good bowl of Cereal maybe ? :D

Jaeger

BHP FAN
July 13, 2009, 04:41 PM
''Otay... sort of a "gas check" then, huh? I'll find a use for 'em. M'be they'll work for things like loading .45LC shells, or even some .44's for the Super BlackHawk if I dabble with some BP loads for 'em...''

I've done that very thing with my .45 Colt loads.Drop tubed the powder just like a .45-70,and used the washer to keep the powder compressed [Goex NOT 777!] and to keep my home brew lube from migrating [which it won't,but why take chances?] and from now on,I'm using these in the carbine,not the pistola...I had the old .45 bucking and snorting like a .44 mag!

Ratdog68
July 13, 2009, 09:33 PM
Some Milk , some brown sugar , good bowl of Cereal maybe ? :D

Jaeger
I've probably had worse tasting cereal once or three times in my life. LOL

Ratdog68
July 13, 2009, 09:40 PM
''Otay... sort of a "gas check" then, huh? I'll find a use for 'em. M'be they'll work for things like loading .45LC shells, or even some .44's for the Super BlackHawk if I dabble with some BP loads for 'em...''

I've done that very thing with my .45 Colt loads.Drop tubed the powder just like a .45-70,and used the washer to keep the powder compressed [Goex NOT 777!] and to keep my home brew lube from migrating [which it won't,but why take chances?] and from now on,I'm using these in the carbine,not the pistola...I had the old .45 bucking and snorting like a .44 mag!
LOL I likes it !! Thanks.

The package lists 'em as .45 cal. (.462 diameter) and thickness of .030. The are plyable enough to bend, but they don't appear to be prone to cracking.

He calls himself Thetinwadman@cox.net and his name is John Walters out of Moore, OK (if'n yer needin' to pick some up). Don't recall off-hand what I paid for 'em... but they're in a ziplock baggie in 1,000 ct.

BHP FAN
July 13, 2009, 09:43 PM
HAS to be cheaper than Wonder Wads.I sure like them things,especially to take up space in reduced ''carbine'' loads for my Trapdoor,but they are not cheap!

CAMPBELL49T
July 13, 2009, 10:46 PM
I make my own wads, I read about it on THR. I found old felt hats and the like. Went to Tandy Leather and got a set of punches. I have most all of the hat left ,95%. I punched out 193 wads. Melted down 1/4 bore butter and 3/4
crisco. I used a low small pan and mixed in the wads. They came out wet and i mean
real wet. Put them on a large flat grader, like for cheese, then put in cake pan.
Then I mashed them down with a flat piece metal. That dried them out just
right. I have used them and they work great. Instead of yellow the are black.
I even got a little of the lube back. By the time the hat is gone I'll have saved a bunch.
I have a pot,grader and a cake pan for the garage. But the garage is better then where she told me to put them...........

From 6-9 dollars for hundred, down to I really I don't. Thanks to somebody who first bought it to my attention on THR. This is one of the best forum to learn about BP. And to look at some mighty fine guns.
Thanks to everyone for your help and all the fine guns.......

arcticap
July 13, 2009, 11:25 PM
Cabela's has their fiber wads on sale for $16.99/1000 in different calibers and 2 thicknesses, .030 and .060.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0018754214922a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Product_liberal&QueryText=fiber+wads&sort=all&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&Nty=1&hasJS=true&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1

I wonder if they're biodegradable? :rolleyes:

CAMPBELL49T
July 14, 2009, 12:35 PM
Articat, Thanks, that will be a whole lot easery then making them. I should buy couple. When the wife goes to the range. we can go through over 100 in a day. Will keep my felt hat too......it won't look bad with 193 44 cal holes in
it. I still like making my own BP things. But the price is to good.
thanks


They will still be on the range when my grand son, is my age, shooting

BHP FAN
July 14, 2009, 01:12 PM
ventilation.

4v50 Gary
July 14, 2009, 09:28 PM
So, can you stir fry them for an instant meal? M-T Stummachs want to gnaw.

Ratdog68
July 14, 2009, 09:30 PM
So, can you stir fry them for an instant meal? M-T Stummachs want to gnaw.
Otay... 4vGary AIN'T gonna be the designated camp cook for our rendevouz !!

scrat
July 16, 2009, 02:32 AM
I bought a bag of the fiber wads i think it was a bag of 1000 for about 7.00. At the time make wads buy 1000 make wads buy 1000 make wads buy 1000. Well i bought 1000 and to tell you the truth it was the best purchase i made. Still have a couple hundred left. I used them for loading BPCR and for over powder in cap and ball. Of course i like to take extra precaution so i still use Bore butter on top of the balls but i have never had a chain fire and fouling has always been very mild.

Cabelas is the place to check i believe i bought them from them

BHP FAN
July 16, 2009, 05:07 AM
Good to know.

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