Poll....to shoot, or not to shoot


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franconialocal
July 14, 2009, 12:24 AM
Recently I bought a BEAUTIFUL Beretta 92 F/S 9mm. from a former Army friend of mine who was issued a M-9 in the service.

The one I bought from him (for $500.00) is a "Operation Enduring Freedom M-9 U.S. Army Edition" commemorative unit (One of only 2,500). It's all gold-leaf lettered....very, very nice....flawless.

My friend told me he only put three rounds down the pipe, and judging by my field stripping and inspection/cleaning I can't believe it's even had ONE down the pipe....this gun is immaculate....not a single scratch on it (SORRY!! No pic's yet).

So...here's the poll

1. Use, shoot, and proudly carry this gun as the fine sidearm it was meant to be?? OR
2. Promptly find it's way into a nice red felt display case never to be touched, admired "from afar" to be held as the nice show piece that it could be??

I'm very sided on this issue and I need YOUR help deciding!! I own several other sidearms so it's not like I "need" to use it. I think the decision would be clear if it was TRULY brand new (not 3 rds. down range) but now that it's been shot?? Just thinking out loud really......thoughts???

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happygeek
July 14, 2009, 12:29 AM
I voted for the display box. You said you already have plenty of pistols for carry and use. Personally, I'd display it. Besides, I already much prefer to shoot my 1911 over the Berretta 92FS I have.

CountGlockula
July 14, 2009, 01:00 AM
Draw it, shoot it, drop it...USE IT!!!

Nothing like a well worn out M9. Guns are meant to be shot with:

Ask Tony Montana:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh284/CTone03/Guns%20in%20movies/Scarface/6Beretta92F.jpg

Oro
July 14, 2009, 01:02 AM
. Use, shoot, and proudly carry this gun as the fine sidearm it was meant to be?? OR

It wasn't "meant" for that. It was built to be a gun, yes. But then the lettering and engraving was done for a collector to preserve it. That's what it was "meant" for. limited edition and collector edition guns are always meant to for collecting - you can always buy a pedestrian model to wear out shooting and carrying.

Since he's already shot it, why not just put a mag or two through it once, detail it and clean it, then display it? It's not like it's going to be dramatically different than any of the tons of 92s out there, and it's NOT "unfired."

Scratch your itch, then display it. Best of both worlds!

Quilbilly
July 14, 2009, 02:24 AM
I say shoot it! Any not to change the subject but this is my 100th post:D.

Cowboygunsmith
July 14, 2009, 02:27 AM
What real good is any gun if you cant shoot it or hit what you are shooting at. I would rather have a $50 gun that I can hit somthing with than a $5,000 gun I cant hit anything with. If you want to collet art that you cant use collet paintings or somthing else. I love a well engraved weapon as much as anyone else however a used weapon has stoires and memories that go with it.

zombienerd
July 14, 2009, 03:53 AM
If you've already got pistols that fit the bill, put this one in a nice display case on your desk with a loaded mag displayed right next to it :)

Don't shoot it unless it's an emergency, but I think that a limited edition like that should be a safe queen and only shot very sparingly.

wankerjake
July 14, 2009, 04:01 AM
If you think you would love shooting it every time, then go for it. If not, then might as well hold its value.

jaholder1971
July 14, 2009, 08:08 AM
I'm not into "Commemoratives", it's just a cheesy way of getting more money out of you. The idea behind them is that instead of buying one handgun, you buy 2; one to shoot and one to "ooh" and "ahhh".

Buy it, shoot it, keep it in a rough holster so you wear off that graffiti faster.

Ed4032
July 14, 2009, 08:27 AM
My Dad had a Remington Rand 1911 unfired in the original issue box. When I was 16 I asked if I could shoot it. After shooting it he told me that it was the first time it had been fired. I asked him why he let me shoot it and he said guns are made to shoot and I am glad you had fun. I still have the gun and the box. I am 51 now and I am thinking now that I may shoot it again. In sixty five years it has about 200 rounds thru it. But I think of that day with Dad every time I look at it.

franconialocal
July 14, 2009, 10:21 AM
thanks for the input so far guys....keep it coming.....

Guns and more
July 14, 2009, 10:27 AM
Carry it? Not a chance. What happens when some LEO stops you and decides that he will confiscate your weapon? Gone.

texas bulldog
July 14, 2009, 10:32 AM
i don't have any "display" guns, but i think if i was in your shoes and had plenty of other guns that could fill the same role, i would probably not shoot it.

i don't need to fire a gun to appreciate its value, but i also haven't had the funds to buy a gun i won't fire.

Tim the student
July 14, 2009, 11:57 AM
I voted to shoot it. I might say differently if you said you bought it specifically for its "collector" value, but thats not what my impression was. (And if you bought it for its monetary value, why would you put it on the wall, and not in a safe?) I personally feel that guns are meant to be shot, and I won't ever own a gun I don't shoot. I might not shoot it that much, but it will get shot.

So if you didn't buy it specifically because it might have collector value, and its not a sentimental gun, but just "cool" why would you not shoot it?

Iggy
July 14, 2009, 12:01 PM
Take a real good picture of it. Frame it and admire the picture.

Sell the gun and get one you will shoot!!:evil:

Kernel
July 14, 2009, 12:11 PM
CountGlockula,

That ain't a Berreta 92/M9. It's a M1951. (Membership renewed in nitpicker club).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Beretta_951.png/300px-Beretta_951.png
I'd keep it an look into selling it in maybe five or ten years. Put it up on an American Legion/AmVet bulletin board.

CountGlockula
July 14, 2009, 12:20 PM
Thanks for the correction Kernel. I did a Goggle Image search on a well worn out Beretta and that came up.

Lightninstrike
July 14, 2009, 12:26 PM
50/50 split. Amazing.

jhco
July 14, 2009, 12:50 PM
Guns are meant to be shot with: Don't let the antis hear you say that.

larry_minn
July 14, 2009, 12:59 PM
[QUOTE=franconialocal;5754696]Recently I bought a BEAUTIFUL Beretta 92 F/S 9mm. from a former Army friend of mine who was issued a M-9 in the service.

The one I bought from him (for $500.00) is a "Operation Enduring Freedom M-9 U.S. Army Edition" commemorative unit (One of only 2,500). It's all gold-leaf lettered....very, very nice....flawless.
pic'QUOTE]


Even "TRULY brand new" guns have been fired. At least 2 rds at factory. It is a limited edition gun with custom markings. (were you involved in "Operation Enduring Freedom"? If not someone who was may decide they want one and be willing to pay $$$$ for a LNIB with only 3 rds thru it.
I have no idea how gold leaf lettering would hold up to shooting/carrying. so I would say gently clean/oil/store it till you find a presentation case. IF you want a M9 to shoot I would think you could sell this and get enough for a standard M9 with extra mags/ammo.

MikkOwl
July 14, 2009, 01:45 PM
I say use it and shoot it. What good will that gun do in a display case to you in a hundred years anyway? :) If you like it so much, maybe you will like having it AND shooting it even more.

That Tony Montana "Scarface" picture is not a Beretta 92, it's about 20-30 years older - a Beretta M951 : http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Beretta_M951

Mr. Bojangles
July 15, 2009, 06:09 AM
I voted what I would do if it were mine. I understand and agree with keeping it in a case and not firing it, but if it were mine I would in a moment of weakness take it out and shoot it, then put it back in the case. :uhoh:

I know I'll get some flak for this, but it is what I would end up doing with the firearm. A helluva buy, by the way. :cool:

danbrew
July 15, 2009, 07:52 AM
Shoot it - it's a marketing gimmick. It's a standard M9 type gun in every respect except for they printed some sappy thing on the side to make you go "oh oh, can't shoot it". The next commemorative special off the assembly line behind yours was for the Podunk Iowa 4H Club.

IOW, there's nothing special about this gun. There were only 2500 made? Yes, of course, with the Enduring Freedom stamp/engraving/whatever. Then there's the several million other ones just like it that don't say Enduring Freedom.

It would be special if your pal had been awarded that as a result of his service. Or if it was banged out in a shop in Kabul and he liberated it. But as is? It's an expensive M9 and they're hoping you'll buy two. Like somebody else said, one to shoot, one to drool.

At the end of the day, it's your gun. You decided. But I'd shoot the heck out of it.

oldgold
July 15, 2009, 08:06 AM
Did you get the box and paper work? If not it's just a shooter.Collectors have little interest in modern guns without the box.

If you did it's either a safe queen or trade goods in my opinion. I don't keep what I can't shoot.

DawgsFan_07
July 15, 2009, 11:48 AM
Put it up for display. Though I agree with danbrew, it ain't that special. My great-great uncle's 1903 that he fought the Japanese with in the Philippines, on the other hand, has some historical value.

If you want to put up some kind of display or something related to OIF it would fit in nicely.

iScream
July 15, 2009, 12:10 PM
I certainly wouldn't carry daily, subjecting it to abuse, but I would shoot it on occasion. Enjoy it as something you bring out and shoot as a treat to yourself sometimes.

-Chris

Officers'Wife
July 15, 2009, 12:26 PM
Hi franconialocal,

Considering the very real possibility of the next to unused condition enhancing the monetary value of the weapon in years hence I would say build a nice presentation box.

FWIW, my grandfather made a similar decision in the 40's concerning an army issue revolver his father brought home from the first world war. In the end, he took the weapon with him. To date that old revolver has been to France twice, Germany, Korea and Vietnam. It now has a place of honor on Dad's wall above the glass front box holding 3 generations of military commendations and awards. That old revolver is no longer safe to shoot, but it's service to our family and our country makes it beyond price to our family.

In the end the choice is yours, collectors piece or useful tool. In the future, your descendants will point to your service weapon and say that it is the tool that kept your own and their future safe. Your commemorative weapon will be what grandfather bought from someone at the turn of the century. It's your choice.

61chalk
July 15, 2009, 06:25 PM
Lets see...you shoot an carry it for many years, an it shows it...then 40 yrs. from now you find out a mint condition one is going for over $5000.00, but since you been shooting the crap out of it, its worth only $500.00.....can you live with that? Remember those old $4000.00 muscle cars? The ones no one really drove are worth $100,000.00 an even more...who would of thought!!!!!!!! Its a 1970 Hemi Cuda, its meant to be driven....if we could only go back in time.....

DeepSouth
July 15, 2009, 06:34 PM
I'd keep it an look into selling it in maybe five or ten years. Put it up on an American Legion/AmVet bulletin board.

Best idea yet, if that wasn't an option I'd shoot the heck out of it.

High Planes Drifter
July 15, 2009, 06:51 PM
I voted to frame it and display it. You have other guns to carry, and that one may be worth something one day.

doc2rn
July 15, 2009, 07:08 PM
Its a show piece for BBQs find a nice show box and a good piece of leather to show it off in from time to time.

chris in va
July 15, 2009, 09:54 PM
Display and range use only. Carry guns have the caveat that they may be confiscated/detained.

ktmmudd
July 15, 2009, 11:56 PM
Cars are meant to be driven; guns are meant to be fired. I never buy cars or guns too nice to be used.

franconialocal
July 16, 2009, 01:07 AM
Wow...what a close split. Thanks for all the input, and I do agree with several points on BOTH sides.

Yeah...I considered the whole "Just a 92 F/S with a cheesy paint job" argument, and that's certainly a valid one. Yes...I am aware that the mfg. will test fire a weapon, so I don't really "count" those shots. Danbrew....I hear you loud and clear with the "ain't that special" feeling.

On the other hand I absolutely do agree with the fact that, if left in great condition, this sidearm could really increase in value both monetarily and sentimentally.

Yes...I do have the box and papers. My understanding (I'm not positive) is that this sidearm was offered exclusively through the American Legion so I don't think it is just something you can pick up on a whim. I'm not so worried about the "getting it confiscated" argument because I'm a LEO.

I'm kind of "old school" when it comes to this stuff, appreciating an items aesthetic value as much as it's function. Cheesy paint job or not, I respect what it represents to those who sacrificed. My brother was in the Gulf War, and my family has a deep military/law enforcement history.

I like the "old muscle car" argument....very compelling.

I also respect the "display this one, go buy one to shoot" argument, because God knows I have the itch to go see what this thing can do. My Ssgt. is drooling over it daily, and I've had a friend say "Damn....I should have bought that when I had the chance" LOL...I love it.

As you can see by how close the poll is......I'm still the guy going :banghead::banghead::banghead:

Gaiudo
July 16, 2009, 01:21 AM
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Roccobro
July 16, 2009, 01:22 AM
If you have plenty of "shooters" already, I'd box it up and display it!

If this is only your second gun... Well you better put it to use before the old lady does!!!

Justin

LRaccuracy
July 16, 2009, 05:10 PM
If I don't shoot a gun, it's becuase I have so many I just don't get around to it.

Shoot it...

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Build a fire for a man and he will stay warm for a night. Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

I'll tell you what kind of man I am... I have my first gun but I don't have my first wife. She left with the money I was going to buy ammo with.

JEB
December 24, 2009, 12:50 AM
id shoot it and carry it on special occasions like holidays and birthdays. i think that on special occasions one should always carry your finest weapon (yes i know i am a little strange)

scoutsabout
December 24, 2009, 01:10 AM
True commemorative guns have custom embellishments... not some factory crap.

I would consider it an investment. You might not want to wait very long to sell it.

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SiRed91
December 24, 2009, 01:24 AM
WE NEED PIXORS

but anyway, I would put it in a nice box personally and break it out for a BBQ gun every
now and then. I would not shoot it. You have other guns for that.

Ragnar Danneskjold
December 24, 2009, 01:41 AM
Display. I personally don't own any guns worth just displaying, but you do. You can always get another stock M9 to beat the crap out of on the range. This one is not meant for that, and I wouldn't cheapen it by treating it like just another carry pistol.

wishin
December 24, 2009, 09:12 AM
I'm surprised at the almost even mix in the poll at this point! I'd be inclined to display it only if it had not been fired. Since it has, I'd use it and show it off on my person, assuming it's legal.;)

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