Students encouraged never to use guns?


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Sportcat
October 23, 2003, 03:21 PM
What kind of crap is this? I understand encouraging students not use weapons for gang violence, but to never use a gun???

http://wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1493862&nav=0RaMIglM

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Bartholomew Roberts
October 23, 2003, 03:23 PM
I think the West Columbia PD should lead by example and sign the pledge as well...

outfieldjack
October 23, 2003, 03:29 PM
Sixth graders are signing a pledge saying they'll never use a gun and they will use their influence to encourage their friends to do the same

I hope they mean "never use a gun in an act of violence...."

:barf: :barf: :barf:

PAshooter
October 23, 2003, 03:29 PM
Curious as to what the pledge says. Article says "pledge against violence" not "pledge never to use guns." Am I missing something?

Anybody here for violence? Well... of course under certain circumstances...;)

Big_R
October 23, 2003, 03:30 PM
This reminds me of the DARE program. We all know how successful that was.

Ryan

Augustwest
October 23, 2003, 03:44 PM
This reminds me of the DARE program. We all know how successful that was.

This predates DARE, but I remember "drug education" day in elementary school. This big van full of propoganda and (behind glass) examples of what we should avoid pulled up to the school. We got to walk through and check out the samples.

I was fascinated :D

Far as the topic goes, is anybody really surprised that a government school would urge kids never to use guns? The best shot the gov't has at running roughshod over everything is a disarmed populace, after all.

Sportcat
October 23, 2003, 03:51 PM
Here's a web page for them, but interestingly, no contact information!?!

http://www.cityofwestcolumbiasc.org/citydepartments/police/

Travis McGee
October 23, 2003, 03:55 PM
Brainwashing the next generation of compliant bleating sheeple.
Easy to shear, easy to castrate, easy to slaughter.

Matt
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willyjixx
October 23, 2003, 04:05 PM
The West Columbia Police Department is also sponsoring a gun turnover program. Residents can drop off any unwanted or broken guns plus ammunition to officers on Thursday. They'll properly dispose of the guns. They'll also be passing out free gun locks to anyone who needs one.

i got a couple of free gun locks from teh ESPN Games when they were in Reno. i think thats a conspiracy. they are so poorly made im actually afraid to put em on any of my guns in case it wont come off when i need it.

lee n. field
October 23, 2003, 04:39 PM
This thing: http://www.pledge.org/ ?

They went through the schools here about 5 years ago. My daughter refused to sign (made me proud).

Andrew Rothman
October 23, 2003, 04:41 PM
The story above was poorly reported. The pledge itself is pretty good, even if the last part (I added italics) is wishful thinking.I will never bring a gun to school;

I will never use a gun to settle a personal problem or dispute;

I will use my influence with my friends to keep them from using guns to settle disputes.

My individual choices and actions, when multiplied by those of young people throughout the country, will make a difference. Together, by honoring this pledge, we can reverse the violence and grow up in safety. -http://www.pledge.org/pledges/pledge_older.html

The little kiddies take a simpler pledge:If I see a gun, I won't touch it.

I will remember that any gun I see might be loaded.

I know how important it is to keep myself safe. - http://www.pledge.org/pledges/pledge_young.html

Not quite as good as the NRA's Eddie Eagle rules:If you see a gun:
STOP!
Don't Touch.
Leave the Area.
Tell an Adult.

And then there is the "Gorp's" pledge. :confused:
http://www.pledge.org/images/gorpsheet.gif

PAshooter
October 23, 2003, 05:02 PM
Wow! Glad I didn't face the moral dilemma of whether or not to sign Gorp's pledge when I was a wee lad. Never is a long time, after all, and one of my favorite pasttimes these days is "playing with guns"... :D

MagKnightX
October 23, 2003, 05:30 PM
If they actually sign a pledge never to use guns, then that's one area that won't feed into the military.

Then again, if you are under 18, a contract can't be considered legally binding unless a parent or guardian signs it too.

Andrew Rothman
October 23, 2003, 07:14 PM
My daughter refused to sigh (made me proud).

Why? Which part of the pledge do either of you find objectionable?

twency
October 23, 2003, 08:47 PM
Which part of the pledge do either of you find objectionable?

I'm not either of them, but I found this objectionable:

I will never use a gun to settle a personal problem or dispute;

What if the "personal problem" is that some bad guy is pointing a gun at me and telling me he going to shoot me dead? In that case, given the option, I may vary well use a gun to settle a personal problem.

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Twency

cracked butt
October 23, 2003, 09:38 PM
When I was in 6th grade, my dad used to pull me out of school to go goose hunting.heh:rolleyes:
I would have loved to sign that pledge back then, on the day after I would have signed it, I would have brought pictures of me, my dog, my shotgun, and a spread of deceased ducks the next day for show and tell.:neener:

gundam007
October 23, 2003, 09:43 PM
lol looks like we dont have to worry about peer pressure as much as police pressure as kids....

oh... a few years ago when a police teacher asked what I would do if I saw a gun i thought was a toy , i said, move it so someone who doesnt know gun safety doesnt get to it. he was stumped by that ;) lol

Alan Fud
October 23, 2003, 09:49 PM
Maybe we should all stop using guns ... the police, the military, all of us. And seeing our good example, I'm sure the bad guys and hostile countries will follow our lead :banghead:

Standing Wolf
October 23, 2003, 09:50 PM
If I'd had children, they'd have started going to the range with me by the age of four or five.

vmi93
October 23, 2003, 10:55 PM
Thanks for the reminder to never send ANY child of mine to public school.

I don't find the pledge or values it embodies objectionable. I find the waste of time it illustrates objectionable.

The school has 6 hours or less each day to teach kids to read, write, do math, and be informed citizens. Why are they wasting instruction time telling them not to be hoodlums? The hoodlums won't listen and the good kids don't need to listen. These pledges are about as useful as the PSA's telling people not to use drugs or beat their wives.

swingset
October 24, 2003, 01:09 AM
The pledge itself reads pretty common-sensy to me. :confused

I wouldn't get my panties in a knot over it. It doesn't say not to use a gun, but not to use it dangerously. Isn't that what we've been preaching to each other for some years now?

sm
October 24, 2003, 01:31 AM
I'm with Standing Wolf.
When I had a stepson, he didn't sign any pledges, but he was taught by me, his mom, her dad and uncles gun safety and proper use.
I didn't sign any pledges as a wee child, parents taught many lessons in addition to guns and gun safety. Still think it is the parents responsibility to teach a child...especially with some of the "education" kids are exposed to nowadays . I don't agree with some that is taught , or indoctrinated .

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