How to get an FFL


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Five-O
July 14, 2009, 11:31 PM
I was browsing a gun site and there is a book one can order on how to get a FFL. Can an individual have a FFL? I have always thought only retail gun stores, or similar type stores could have a FFL. Anyone here have an FFL? If I were to somehow get my own FFL does that mean that I can buy any gun from anyone at anytime? And what all does one have to do to get a FFL anyway?
Thanks

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cbrgator
July 14, 2009, 11:41 PM
Well, first off, DO NOT get an FFL for a personal benefit. It is a dealers license and unless you intend to engage in the business of buying/selling firearms, an FFL is not for you. You must comply with all of the ATF's regulations and if you operate out of your home, the ATF has the right to enter your home at any time for an inspection of the guns, premises, records, etc. I'll reiterate, if you don't plan on being an actual gun dealer, DO NOT apply for your FFL license.

dogtown tom
July 15, 2009, 12:10 AM
Don't waste your $$$$ on a book, kit or secret FFL website. All you have to do is visit the ATF website and start reading.

FlaChef
July 15, 2009, 02:39 AM
the old "kitchen table FFL" is a valid dealer too. i know a guy who just does gun shows and transfers, but he has a warehouse space in a n industrial park as his business adress and storage so his home is not on the license.

It is not for the faint of heart or convenience to avoid a few transfer fees (it's a big nuisance actually).
Nor is it a good full time gig unless you do have a retail store, but it can be a sideline business for some 9be aware there is some risk though).

dogtown tom
July 15, 2009, 10:13 AM
FlaChef: the old "kitchen table FFL" is a valid dealer too. i know a guy who just does gun shows and transfers, but he has a warehouse space in a n industrial park as his business adress and storage so his home is not on the license....

Hopefully he is doing his transfers at that warehouse.:uhoh: Because if he is doing them at his home he is in violation of Federal law.

Federal law is VERY clear- a licensed gun dealer may ONLY conduct business at his licensed premises and at a gun show. An FFL may use another location for storage purposes only.

ezypikns
July 15, 2009, 10:36 AM
Less expense and hassle. And there are lots of C&R elligble weapons to buy these days.

scottaschultz
July 15, 2009, 12:56 PM
Don't make the same mistake I made. I actually paid $50 for one of those "FFL kits" only to find out later that the county in which I live will not issue a home-based permit for any type of business related to the sale of firearms. Furthermore, the BATFE will NOT issue an FFL if it is not legal for you to conduct business at the address listed on your application.

Scott

freakshow10mm
July 15, 2009, 01:00 PM
You are in California. The process and additional BS to get an FFL will take at least a year of your time and most likely several thousand dollars because most placed require a business zoned premises for a firearms business. Good luck.

rocky branch
July 15, 2009, 03:15 PM
They took the fun out of this several years ago.

Lots of folks used to have thesethey were very convenient.

That changed. 90% or more holders gave it up due to cost and estrictions.
That was the plan.

For sure don't buy a kit-rip off of available info.

Get a C&R.

FlaChef
July 17, 2009, 10:48 AM
dogtown tom
Hopefully he is doing his transfers at that warehouse. Because if he is doing them at his home he is in violation of Federal law.

That is correct. I picked up a transfer there once and it was at his warehouse. He also does all the shows around central FL.

hags
July 17, 2009, 11:24 AM
the old "kitchen table FFL" is a valid dealer too. i know a guy who just does gun shows and transfers, but he has a warehouse space in a n industrial park as his business adress and storage so his home is not on the license.

I also hope he is shipping and receiving from/at that warehouse as well, don't forget point of sales too.

freakshow10mm
July 17, 2009, 11:27 AM
You can have an off premises warehouse to store firearms.

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