Ruger DC vs DA vs DAO


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Ukraine Train
October 23, 2003, 03:12 PM
I'm looking into getting a Ruger and would like to hear everyone's opinion on their varying decocker/safety combos. First, a question or two, though. On the DCs, with the hammer decocked, you just have to pull the trigger and it will disarm the internal safety, and you don't have to flip the decocker lever, right? For concealed carry, does anyone feel that this is unsafe because it lacks an external safety? I think I prefer the DA but depending on what I find I may just get a DC. I don't think I'd get a DAO. Thanks.

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Brigrat
October 23, 2003, 03:48 PM
DAO= Long trigger pull every time, with no safety

Manual Safety= Works just like the Decocker, only it has a safety. If you put the weapon on safe, it decocks the hammer, and you cant pull the trigger. There is no cocked and locked option with this system

DC= No safety, first shot with long DA trigger pull, all follow up shots with a much nicer single action pull.

I prefer the DC, the first shot on any Ruger P-series is so long and stiff, that an extra safety is not needed at all (IMHO). I carry a P95DC just about every day, and feel very safe. The manual safety and DC model are very similar in their action, meaning the they are DA/SA, I just don't see a need to disengage a safety before my first shot. I would avoid the DAO, as the trigger pull is very long. Rugers are about the most reliable pistols on the market, but they are not known for having great triggers. Having the SA option on all follow up shots is very helpful. I guess what I am saying, is go with the manual safety of DC, with my preference being DC. You cannot go wrong with a Ruger.

If you have any more questions about Rugers don't hesitate to ask, or visit the www.rugerforum.com (am I allowed to post other forums on this forum? If not I am very sorry).

drf
October 23, 2003, 06:47 PM
I have a Ruger P90 with the decocker and manual safety...I prefer the manual safety because it makes it easier to chamber the first round with your thumb and index finger......
Also the more user freindly safeties the better as far as I'm concerned....
As far as the manual decocker I feel it is very safe.......drf

lee n. field
October 23, 2003, 07:37 PM
Manual Safety= Works just like the Decocker, only it has a safety. If you put the weapon on safe, it decocks the hammer, and you cant pull the trigger.

On the Ruger you _can_ pull the trigger with the safety on (unlike, say, a Makarov, where the safety locks the trigger, hammer and slide). It's just disconnected and doesn't do anything.

greyhound
October 23, 2003, 08:22 PM
I prefer the DC

What Brigrat said. I shot all three before buying a P97, and liked the DC.
Its not like the safety model allows "locked and cocked" condition, so I went with the DC.

At the range, I always make the first shot DA, then SA, just like in real life....

P95Carry
October 23, 2003, 08:38 PM
I fully agree with the positive comments on DC .. My P95 and P97 are both DC .... that D/A pull is pretty strong .. no way for me a safety is needed .. at all.

Practice with this does make for easier first shot effectiveness ...... and getting used to the feel of subsequent ''short trigger travel'' S/A shots. The decocker is good ... but as ever with things mechanical ... the gun is ALWAYS decocked toward a very safe zone!:p ;)

ARperson
October 24, 2003, 07:14 PM
Another vote for the DC from me.

But then, I feel perfectly safe with a 1911 cocked and locked on the hip, too.

Guess I think gun safety is between the ears and at the ends of my upper appendages and not inherent to the firearm I may be using.

"This is my safety, sir!" So says Hoot, wiggling his index finger. ;)

AUTIGER04
October 24, 2003, 08:55 PM
I dont have my Ruger yet But its going to be a DC.:D

denfoote
October 24, 2003, 10:48 PM
I've always gotten the DC models, myself

Gary A
October 25, 2003, 07:37 PM
Some years ago I found a P93 (much like the 95 but with an alloy frame) with a DAO configuration at a gun show. I rather liked that pistol quite a bit and found the DAO pretty easy to use. It did have a long take-up but the DAO pull, while heavier than the SA pull on DA/SA pistol, was a bit shorter and lighter than the DA pull on a DA/SA pistol. I think that was because racking the slide to chamber a round (or upon firing a round) sort of "pre-set" the hammer and trigger mechanism. You could see the hammer set back just a bit and the trigger also. However, the pistol had a true second-strike capability in that if a round failed to ignite and the hammer/trigger was not pre-set, it still would work from the "unset" position, just with a slightly longer pull. This was unlike, say, Smith and Wesson DAOs which required the action be pre-set, or the striker-fired Glocks and Kahrs which require the same. As I got into P95s etc, I considered going DAO but decided I was better off committing to one system and I like the DA/SA system found on the DC models. I don't like the safety-decocker as I find it clumsy, redundant, and ugly (I know, I know, a lot of folks find everything about Rugers ugly, but I don't). Still, I think for someone who decides on a DAO system, I think the Ruger system has a lot going for it, IMO. If Ruger made a small, polymer-framed single-stack 9mm, I could see getting it in DAO. BTW, I have a couple P95DCs and would not part with them for any reason. Very nice pistols.

m.i.sanders
October 26, 2003, 01:50 PM
I had a P95DC and felt perfectly safe with carying it. The DA trigger does take some getting used too, but after a while it wasn't that bad. It's a shame that the grips on it were too big, I'd still have it.

Ky Larry
October 26, 2003, 10:49 PM
I've owned a half dozen Ruger P series pistols. All of them have been DC. In a stressful situation I might not remember to reset the safety/decock lever.

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