Help with identifying some guns.


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Nautical
July 15, 2009, 06:10 PM
(I posted this in the general forum. Should have been posted here. Thanks.)

Hello,

New here. If this is the wrong place to post questions, please advise.

I am helping a friend sell a few guns left to her by her late husband.

The newer guns I believe can be readily identified and valued, however there are several that I have no idea of where to look or who to talk to for identification and value.

I can post a list, and would welcome any help on placeing values, or how to properly identify what is here.

Can pictures be posted to this site? If not I could email them, or perhaps I could link up online with a web cam and someone could advise what they needed to see for proper identification.

I am in no hurry to get this done, she does not need the money. I just want to help her get fair value.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Skip

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rcmodel
July 15, 2009, 06:15 PM
Set up an account at Photobucket.com and upload the pictures there.

Then, they can be linked & posted here by clicking the little photo icon at the top of the text frame and inserting the link.

rc

Nautical
July 15, 2009, 06:19 PM
I do have a Photobucket acct, so will post there.

Should I just post one gun at a time? Or put several there. I am concerned due to my ignorance I will be overwhelmed with too many post and too much info. :)

Skip

rcmodel
July 15, 2009, 06:24 PM
How many guns are we talking about?

rc

Nautical
July 15, 2009, 06:30 PM
This is a pistol that I can not find any markings on.

http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/

Nautical
July 15, 2009, 06:33 PM
I pasted the link, but obviously did not do it correctly. I put several photos in an album, do I have to paste the link of each picture? Or is there a way to view the entire album.

Nautical
July 15, 2009, 06:34 PM
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/DSC05594.jpg

1KPerDay
July 15, 2009, 06:34 PM
Nautical, there's a problem with your image link. When you upload a pic to photobucket, there should be a few windows with lines of text below it, or when you roll your mouse over the image. click in the window that says "IMG code" and highlight all of that text. It should end with .jpg

then copy and paste that here, including the and tags. That will make it show up properly. The image above is missing the last bit of info.

http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/

Nautical
July 15, 2009, 06:35 PM
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/DSC05594.jpg

Nautical
July 15, 2009, 06:36 PM
Ok, I think I got it.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/DSC05597.jpg

1KPerDay
July 15, 2009, 06:38 PM
I pasted the link, but obviously did not do it correctly. I put several photos in an album, do I have to paste the link of each picture? Or is there a way to view the entire album.
You can do either. If you have the whole album open in your browser, you can go to the top of the browser and copy the http:// address that appears in the browser window. Paste that here and it will show a link to the album.

OR you can click the check box next to all of the images you want to show up, then go to the bottom of the page and click "generate html and IMG code" and it will give you a couple of options. Copy the text in the window that says "IMG clickable thumbnails for message boards" or the one that says "IMG images for message boards"

One will paste mini thumbnails that people can click and open the larger images, one will paste the full size images.

Nautical
July 15, 2009, 06:38 PM
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/DSC05599.jpg

Nautical
July 15, 2009, 06:40 PM
You can do either. If you have the whole album open in your browser, you can go to the top of the browser and copy the http:// address that appears in the browser window. Paste that here and it will show a link to the album.

OR you can click the check box next to all of the images you want to show up, then go to the bottom of the page and click "generate html and IMG code" and it will give you a couple of options. Copy the text in the window that says "IMG clickable thumbnails for message boards" or the one that says "IMG images for message boards"

One will paste mini thumbnails that people can click and open the larger images, one will paste the full size images.
Ok, let me work on that. Thanks for your help.

Nautical
July 15, 2009, 06:42 PM
http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/

Nautical
July 15, 2009, 06:44 PM
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/th_DSC05594.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/?action=view&current=DSC05594.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/th_DSC05596.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/?action=view&current=DSC05596.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/th_DSC05597.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/?action=view&current=DSC05597.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/th_DSC05598.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/?action=view&current=DSC05598.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/th_DSC05599.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/?action=view&current=DSC05599.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/th_DSC05600.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/?action=view&current=DSC05600.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/th_DSC05601.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/?action=view&current=DSC05601.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/th_DSC05593.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/?action=view&current=DSC05593.jpg)

Nautical
July 15, 2009, 06:47 PM
Thanks 1K, think I got. Hope I can remember it next time. :)

Is there a place to select to recieve an email if someone posts a reply to a request?

Thanks again.

Skip

Nautical
July 15, 2009, 07:00 PM
I think 18 or 19 all together. But over half are newer guns that I can identify. Just tyring to sort out best way to value/sell them. A friend provided me a copy of "The Blue Book"? on a DVD. I found some values there, but what is published and what someone may want to pay is greatly different.

For instance, there are 2 Colt AR-15 rifles. One has a shorter barrel and a collapsable stock. The other does not have the collapsable stock and the barrel is about 20" vs 16".

An old friend (lives 1,000 miles away) that is trying to help me over the phone seems to think the one with the short barrel and collapsable stock is worth several hundred dollars more than the other.

A local person with an FFL, (Not even sure what that stands for) said they were both worth the same, as all the parts are interchangable.

He gave some general ideas on value for the Browning rifles, Colt 357 Python etc, but said he had no idea how to value the older guns. That's why I am here, hopeing to learn and educate myself.

Skip

1KPerDay
July 15, 2009, 07:01 PM
Is there a place to select to recieve an email if someone posts a reply to a request?

At the top of this page, on the right, click on "thread tools" and select "subscribe to this thread."

HTH. You're doing fine. :cool:

doc2rn
July 15, 2009, 07:36 PM
Looks kinda like a Freeman flintlock from 1750-1780s

Chester32141
July 15, 2009, 08:32 PM
I go to GunBroker to see what people are bidding for different firearms ... May take a little time but almost everything shows up there ... Great photos ... let's see the rest of them ... :)

Chester

Nautical
July 16, 2009, 12:07 AM
These are photos of gun with a tag that indicates "Austrian Civil War" 1860-63.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/th_DSC05649.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/?action=view&current=DSC05649.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/th_DSC05650.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/?action=view&current=DSC05650.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/th_DSC05651.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/?action=view&current=DSC05651.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/th_DSC05652.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/?action=view&current=DSC05652.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/th_DSC05653.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/?action=view&current=DSC05653.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/th_DSC05654.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/?action=view&current=DSC05654.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/th_DSC05655.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/?action=view&current=DSC05655.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/th_DSC05656.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/?action=view&current=DSC05656.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/th_DSC05657.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/?action=view&current=DSC05657.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/th_DSC05658.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/?action=view&current=DSC05658.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/th_DSC05659.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Flint%20Lock%20Pistol/Austrian%20Civil%20War/?action=view&current=DSC05659.jpg)

Nautical
July 16, 2009, 12:13 AM
These are photos of a Springfield Model 1898.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC05707.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC05707.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC05708.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC05708.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC05709.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC05709.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC05710.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC05710.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC05711.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC05711.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC05712.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC05712.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC05713.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC05713.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC05714.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC05714.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC05715.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC05715.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC05716.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC05716.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC05717.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC05717.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC05718.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC05718.jpg)

1KPerDay
July 16, 2009, 12:18 AM
Wow... some cool stuff so far.

Nautical
July 16, 2009, 12:48 AM
Hopefully someone will be able to help better identify what these guns are and what the aprox. value might be.

Nautical
July 16, 2009, 12:53 AM
This is some kind of Dutch Gun.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/th_DSC05719.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/?action=view&current=DSC05719.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/th_DSC05720.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/?action=view&current=DSC05720.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/th_DSC05721.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/?action=view&current=DSC05721.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/th_DSC05722.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/?action=view&current=DSC05722.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/th_DSC05723.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/?action=view&current=DSC05723.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/th_DSC05724.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/?action=view&current=DSC05724.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/th_DSC05725.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/?action=view&current=DSC05725.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/th_DSC05726.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/?action=view&current=DSC05726.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/th_DSC05727.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/?action=view&current=DSC05727.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/th_DSC05728.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/?action=view&current=DSC05728.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/th_DSC05729.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/?action=view&current=DSC05729.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/th_DSC05730.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Beumont%20Single%20Shot/?action=view&current=DSC05730.jpg)

paintballdude902
July 16, 2009, 01:52 AM
your Springfield Model 1898.

is what is commonly called a krag-jorgenson chambered in .30-40 krag

the price varies greatly anywhere from 3-400 up into the thousands

the one you posted pictures of looks to be in good shape i wouldnt take a dime less than 600 but i may be wrong since im not a krag guy

the older flintlock pistols are hard to price since alot of the value depends on the maker

natman
July 16, 2009, 03:17 AM
The Krag will be worth a lot more if it has not been modified from its original military configuration. Could you post a full length photo?

The Beaumont is interesting because of the KYNOCH stamping.

Nautical
July 16, 2009, 08:17 AM
PaintBall, Thanks for the info. Now I know where the box of .30-40 ammo belongs. :)
I will post some pics of it.

Skip

Nautical
July 16, 2009, 08:20 AM
Natman, Here is a full length photo of the gun. And the ammo that goes with it.

There is another gun similar to this, but I think it is considered "repeating"? as it has a magazine on it. I don't think the magazine comes off, at least I have not been able to get it off. Have not tried hard either.

{The other gun I am referring to is not a springfield, it is another Dutch gun and I think it also says Kynoch on it. Sorry to be so confusing}

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC06414.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC06414.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC06415.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC06415.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC06418.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC06418.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/th_DSC06419.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Springfield/?action=view&current=DSC06419.jpg)

Nautical
July 16, 2009, 08:26 AM
Natman, Is Beaumont a "model" of a gun? Or a manufacturer?

Thanks, Skip

Jim Watson
July 16, 2009, 08:55 AM
http://www.militaryrifles.com/Holland/Beaumont.htm

The Kynoch marking means it was likely sold in England by that old maker of ammunition. Army surplus has been a going business for a long time.


Your Austrian Civil War gun is probably a Lorenz model 1854 rifle musket. Neither the Union nor the Confederacy could make enough guns to arm their troops, and imported many muskets and rifles. There were thousands of these Austrian guns imported here for both sides during the Civil War, second only to the British Enfield.

Nautical
July 16, 2009, 11:52 AM
Jim, Thanks for that web link. I have read most of that info. The trigger guard on this one is different, but I learned a lot.

Also from that home page I found some guns for sale. There were two listings that looked almost identical to the other Beumont I have here. I will have to study the photos more closely, and take some better ones of these to better identify them. Thanks much.

Skip

Poprivit
July 16, 2009, 12:00 PM
If you decide on a price for that Trade flintlock, let me know by PM. I sold my last flintlock and am looking for another wall hanger for my small collection.

Nautical
July 16, 2009, 12:12 PM
Pop, Can't decide on a price till I figure out what it is. :) Is "Trade Flinlock" a brand? Any idea when it was built? Or who built it?

Thanks for your interest and any info you can offer.
Skip

paintballdude902
July 16, 2009, 02:48 PM
hey check out the first thread in this section its online apprasals there is a way you can send pictures and get a brief history and a value

rcmodel
July 16, 2009, 03:38 PM
For instance, there are 2 Colt AR-15 rifles. One has a shorter barrel and a collapsable stock. The other does not have the collapsable stock and the barrel is about 20" vs 16".

An old friend (lives 1,000 miles away) that is trying to help me over the phone seems to think the one with the short barrel and collapsable stock is worth several hundred dollars more than the other.
Early Colt SP-1 AR-15's were made in a 20" rifle version and a 16" collapsable stock version.

In like new condition you might get around $1,200 out of the rifle, and perhaps $1,400 out of the carbine.

rc

natman
July 16, 2009, 05:36 PM
There is another gun similar to this, but I think it is considered "repeating"? as it has a magazine on it. I don't think the magazine comes off, at least I have not been able to get it off. Have not tried hard either.

The Krag has a magazine, it's just not detachable. The box on the RH side pivots at the bottom and you put the ammo in and close the lid.

The Krag looks like it is still in original configuration. It should bring a nice price.

Nautical
July 16, 2009, 08:33 PM
This rifle has some paper work attached referring to a "Kentucky Rifle".

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Kentucky%20Rifle/th_DSC05643.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Kentucky%20Rifle/?action=view&current=DSC05643.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Kentucky%20Rifle/th_DSC05644.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Kentucky%20Rifle/?action=view&current=DSC05644.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Kentucky%20Rifle/th_DSC05645.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Kentucky%20Rifle/?action=view&current=DSC05645.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Kentucky%20Rifle/th_DSC05646.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Kentucky%20Rifle/?action=view&current=DSC05646.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Kentucky%20Rifle/th_DSC05647.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Kentucky%20Rifle/?action=view&current=DSC05647.jpg)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Kentucky%20Rifle/th_DSC05648.jpg (http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z156/nautical99/Kentucky%20Rifle/?action=view&current=DSC05648.jpg)

Nautical
July 16, 2009, 08:44 PM
This is the other Beaumont Rifle.

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Jim Watson
July 16, 2009, 08:50 PM
It is indeed a flintlock rifle of the Pennsylvania-Kentucky style of the late 18th - early 19th centuries. J&W Aston were lockmakers who supplied gunmakers. I could not find out if they built complete guns.

The "other Beaumont" is a Beaumont-Vitali 1871/88 repeater made by adding the prominent box magazine to the single shot of 1871.

wyofool
July 20, 2009, 03:55 PM
Nautical, I have a 30.40 Krag similar to yours and would be interested in the ammo if you would be willing to sell it separately.

Nautical
July 20, 2009, 10:48 PM
Thanks Wyofool for the offer. At this point I am not sure how I will proceed. It seems the newer guns which I did not post here are very easy to sell. But I am assumeing here that the older ones are probably less valuable right now with the current economic situation. It may be best for her to just hang onto them for awhile.

I don't know if it makes the gun easier to sell with or without the ammo for it. I guess it is something I need to consider as all of the guns have ammo for them. I have read that ammo for some reason right now is very hard to come by. I am not sure why that is, and if it is just a temporary situation or will stay that way for a long time.

I am going to be out of town for a bit to attend a family reunion in southern MO, but will be back by next Monday.

I really appreciate all the help I have recived here. With the links that have been provided I have learned a great deal about what the guns are, who made them etc. I believe I have good ID on all of them except that flintlock pistol. I think I will have to wait until I can find someone that can hold it in their hands and help determine what it is.

I don't know at this point how saleable any of them are, as I have not tried to sell them yet.

Sorry to be so vague, just have not decided how to proceed yet.

Thanks for everyones help, I will monitor this to see if anyone else has more to offer about the old pistol and how to list or sell them.

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