Ithaca Auto Burgler Gun


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44-henry
July 15, 2009, 08:54 PM
I was looking at some old articles concerning the Ithaca Auto Burgler gun and am looking for opinions on something. Do you think it would be legal to make a reproduction of one of these if the barrels were rifled instead of smoothbore? I really couldn't see any reason why it wouldn't be, but it seems like it would make an interesting project. Of course one would have to rifle the barrels before cutting them to size, but other than that it would seem to be a pretty straightforward process.

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Quiet
July 15, 2009, 09:59 PM
The Ithaca Auto Burgler = AOW

Making one with rifled barrels in might make it a DD.
Depends on the caliber.


US Code Title 18 Part 1 Chapter 44 Section 921
(a) As used in this chapter—
(4) The term “destructive device” means—
(B) any type of weapon (other than a shotgun or a shotgun shell which the Attorney General finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes) by whatever name known which will, or which may be readily converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explosive or other propellant, and which has any barrel with a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter;

2RCO
July 15, 2009, 10:45 PM
any type of weapon (other than a shotgun or a shotgun shell which the Attorney General finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes

This law really should be kicked as being in direct violation of the Second Amendment. The Heller Decision could be used as a precedent.

MatthewVanitas
July 17, 2009, 12:43 AM
If you made it in .410 with rifled barrels it'd just be a pistol. Cobray sold (still sells?) a low-quality miniature sXs .410 shotgun with rifled barrels and it's completely legal as a pistol.

I was actually pondering before that you could theoretically get one of those Czech or Turkish budget shotgun makers to do a batch of .410 shotguns, with short rifled barrels and a pistol grip. Technically it wouldn't be any harder than exporting a regular 9mm pistol to the US (which both countries do). Unless there's some issue of pistol importation points from the 1968 GCA.

Tactical Rancher
July 17, 2009, 01:02 AM
I think the rifled .410 option sounds great!

Other options are to use a significantly reduced-length butt-stock and pay for the NFA tax stamp.

OR, make it a muzzleloader pistol which is exempt from NFA regulation as an "antique weapon."

clarence222
July 17, 2009, 01:14 AM
If you are wanting a .410 why not get a Taurus Judge. They are available with 3" chambers now.

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